[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

"People in glass houses...."

You piss and moan about these people putting themselves on a tv show you love to watch. They cant win can they.

Would you like to watch a house full of perfect bores?

No glass houses here. I don't have any notion to go on such a show - she did and this is what happens, people will discuss her and her awful behaviour.

I don't like watching an old drunken has been, who has a foul mouth, is bad tempered, ill mannered, thinks she is more of a star than she really is - an all round dragon of a woman.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No Im not ,shes using depression to make it look better, she IS an ex druggy,ex alki,( now just a old soak) she has dropped em for all and sundry, blame what you like for this,but the butt ends with Denise,

Denise has helped alot of people by being so open about her depression.

Oh and see how you use EX druggy? Thats because she doesnt use drugs anymore.

Alot of us have done drugs and fallen out of clubs but we are not scum because of that. We just arnt perfect.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by g17m

this is what is wrong with big brother, and the UK in general, people immediately judge others on what they hear about them in the press, online and by stereotype, but denise has been a very entertaining HM already, and she got drunk and made a mistake, she isnt deserving of this much stick over a little argument we havent even seen all of.

The press is regularly filled with not only detailed descriptions of her antics, but photos of her falling out and about and acting like some sexually charged hormonal teenager, smashed out of her head. You should perhaps pay more attention and then you may learn something about her.

I cannot abide her and all she is doing is giving more reason to validate my previous thoughts on her.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

No glass houses here. I don't have any notion to go on such a show - she did and this is what happens, people will discuss her and her awful behaviour.

I don't like watching an old drunken has been, who has a foul mouth, is bad tempered, ill mannered, thinks she is more of a star than she really is - an all round dragon of a woman.

How is she a has been? LOL

Shes currently starring in a hit tv show (benidorm) and is also on one of the uk's biggets daytime shows (Loose Women) she is not a has been lol she still has a very active career.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Denise has helped alot of people by being so open about her depression.

Oh and see how you use EX druggy? Thats because she doesnt use drugs anymore.

Alot of us have done drugs and fallen out of clubs but we are not scum because of that. We just arnt perfect.

No ones perfect, but she CHOSE to go on a tv show where she is judged by the public, and I am judging her

[g17m]

Daniel makes a very good point, people are judging her purely on what she was in the press for, yes she did drugs and yes she may drink every weekend, but do you really think she is alone in doing this? she is enjoying her life, and its people that immediately judge her that are the problem, she is on big brother because she wants to have fun

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The press is regularly filled with not only detailed descriptions of her antics, but photos of her falling out and about and acting like some sexually charged hormonal teenager, smashed out of her head. You should perhaps pay more attention and then you may learn something about her.

I cannot abide her and all she is doing is giving more reason to validate my previous thoughts on her.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The press is regularly filled with not only detailed descriptions of her antics, but photos of her falling out and about and acting like some sexually charged hormonal teenager, smashed out of her head. You should perhaps pay more attention and then you may learn something about her.

I cannot abide her and all she is doing is giving more reason to validate my previous thoughts on her.

The fact you think you know her from reading magazines and newspapers is hilarious

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by g17m

Daniel makes a very good point, people are judging her purely on what she was in the press for, yes she did drugs and yes she may drink every weekend, but do you really think she is alone in doing this? she is enjoying her life, and its people that immediately judge her that are the problem, she is on big brother because she wants to have fun

SHE is in cbb ,not every lush in London,Denise Welch ,we are talking about HER

[Josy]

Originally Posted by g17m

Daniel makes a very good point, people are judging her purely on what she was in the press for, yes she did drugs and yes she may drink every weekend, but do you really think she is alone in doing this? she is enjoying her life, and its people that immediately judge her that are the problem, she is on big brother because she wants to have fun

People have a right to judge her or any other housemate any way they please and it's not up to you nor anyone else to tell them otherwise.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Denise has helped alot of people by being so open about her depression.

Oh and see how you use EX druggy? Thats because she doesnt use drugs anymore.

Alot of us have done drugs and fallen out of clubs but we are not scum because of that. We just arnt perfect.

so being a loud mothed rude sexist abusive drunk now makes her a role model? by the way shes paid a fortune to speak about this nonsense....she is not a role model and the era of overpaid talentless abusive drunks blubbing on tv and using it to sell books AND then still be called a role model for it will soon be at an end....its all about greed and money- shes a disgrace

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The fact you think you know her from reading magazines and newspapers is hilarious

no more hilarious than your cod psychology which is actually far more amusing.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The fact you think you know her from reading magazines and newspapers is hilarious

And how do YOU know her Daniel?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Josy

People have a right to judge her or any other housemate any way they please and it's not up to you nor anyone else to tell them otherwise.

[Ammi]

Her depression has nothing to do with how she behaved. It's about time people took responsibility for their behaviour. She was a stroppy cow...completely unjustified. It's not as if this sort of thing is a shock to Denise, she's discussed herself on LW several times, how aggresive she get's when she's had a drink....she has a choice...she could stay off the booze for three weeks....she chose to behave like an idiot. Even if I were a fan it wouldn't change the fact that she behaved like an idiot

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by g17m

Daniel makes a very good point, people are judging her purely on what she was in the press for, yes she did drugs and yes she may drink every weekend, but do you really think she is alone in doing this? she is enjoying her life, and its people that immediately judge her that are the problem, she is on big brother because she wants to have fun

Exactly.

I think its fair to say we are forming more open opinions on her and not just publicly slating her or judging her by things reported in tabloid newspapers like some other members.

[g17m]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The fact you think you know her from reading magazines and newspapers is hilarious

This. there are lots of other celebs that are snapped absolutely pissed, but do you think they want cameras taking pictures like that, she obviously likes a drink like many others, but it doesnt mean she is pissed 24/7 like you guys are making out, she is a great housemate, very entertaining, and she is mature enough to enjoy herself with booze, if she does want to act like a teenager, let her, she wasnt born to be judged by people, so let her live her life, and dont condemn her on big brother for what u see in the papers

[the truth]

she washes her dirty linen in public for money....therefore the price you pay for that is to be judged

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

so being a loud mothed rude sexist abusive drunk now makes her a role model? by the way shes paid a fortune to speak about this nonsense....she is not a role model and the era of overpaid talentless abusive drunks blubbing on tv and using it to sell books AND then still be called a role model for it will soon be at an end....its all about greed and money- shes a disgrace

[g17m]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Exactly.

I think its fair to say we are forming more open opinions on her and not just publicly slating her or judging her by things reported in tabloid newspapers like some other members.

yes, thank you so much for backing me up here, too many are judging her on how she is in the tabloids and are pre judging her for BB

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

no more hilarious than your cod psychology which is actually far more amusing.

Again read the thread title!

I dont "determine" her mental state. I am making an observation on what could possibly transpire given that she has suffered from depression in the past and her behaviour last night seemed a little OTT.

I am not claiming to be a phsycologist or anything else, its just an observation.

Do you understand or are you still confused?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by g17m

This. there are lots of other celebs that are snapped absolutely pissed, but do you think they want cameras taking pictures like that, she obviously likes a drink like many others, but it doesnt mean she is pissed 24/7 like you guys are making out, she is a great housemate, very entertaining, and she is mature enough to enjoy herself with booze, if she does want to act like a teenager, let her, she wasnt born to be judged by people, so let her live her life, and dont condemn her on big brother for what u see in the papers

if the other celebs were in CBB we would then comment on them and their behaviour, they are not in there, SHE is I pity her long suffering children she is a total disgrace of a so called Mother

[g17m]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

no more hilarious than your cod psychology which is actually far more amusing.

wow, i see thats not the first time you have used that one, original!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Her depression has nothing to do with how she behaved. It's about time people took responsibility for their behaviour. She was a stroppy cow...completely unjustified. It's not as if this sort of thing is a shock to Denise, she's discussed herself on LW several times, how aggresive she get's when she's had a drink....she has a choice...she could stay off the booze for three weeks....she chose to behave like an idiot. Even if I were a fan it wouldn't change the fact that she behaved like an idiot

Excellent point. Given her history of depression - she should be staying away from the booze: but she can't even go a week without it - nor going a week without showing her true drunken antics.

As you say, it's well documented from the horses mouth herself, that she is aware of how aggressive and volatile she is when drunk; yet she has so little pride in herself NOT to do exactly that on such a show, which will air her behaviour.

I'm actually glad - as it will show more people watching the show, who aren't really aware of what she is really like. A role model she is not. How you don't want your mother to turn out.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Again read the thread title!

I dont "determine" her mental state. I am making an observation on what could possibly transpire given that she has suffered from depression in the past and her behaviour last night seemed a little OTT.

I am not claiming to be a phsycologist or anything else, its just an observation.

Do you understand or are you still confused?

So everyone who has suffered from depression turns into an old soak, lays on their backs for anything in trousers, throws white powder up their noses? stop stereotyping