[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

No they were in the garden sitting side by side.Kirk pulled his waist band up and was looking down at his privates and as ked Frankie to take a look which Frankie did.He then asked Frankie to get hold of it.Frankie looked away with a disgusted look on his face.

Oh dear

[Angus]

Originally Posted by mangled

so your telling me, you where never an 18 year old who thought about sex, drinking, wanking and isn't every 18 year old view on woman basically the same?(assuming your a male of course). it's all the things that go through a young man's head at that age. Least he is up front about it and lets be honest about it, if there was cameras on front of every 16/17/18/19/20/21 year old lad in Britain, Ireland, France, everywhere, the would just be the same as Frankie Cocozza.

I am presuming that you are a lot older than Frankie (sorry if I'm wrong) but this just seems to come across as older people slamming young people for who the adults where when they where younger. For example, Parents, say 35 years old and above, have this incredible urge to strike youngsters down, saying that all they do is drink, do drugs etc.. It's only since newspapers and media in general have become widely available that these views have come across.It was the exact same scenario in the 50's/60's/70's, just not everybody knew that everyone else was doing it because of the lack of media coverage. My parents are just over 60 and the have admitted doing drugs in there teens and twenties, drinking and fooling around. Your only young once, people learn, my parents raised me exceptionally well, they had good jobs and enjoyed they years when they where free to do what they wanted.

Stop everyone taking your anger and hatred out on one person because you think he is a waster or what have ya. Kids will be kids and he will soon cop on that it's not all sex, drugs and getting hammered.

Sorry I got carried away a bit!! haa

As a woman, I am offended and disgusted by Frankie, and as a mother of two now grown up sons I can assure you that they were both brought up to respect women as equals, and to observe the basic social courtesies of not groping and fondling themselves in public, refraining from making overtly crude sexual comments not only about women behind their backs, but to their faces, and to ultimately respect THEMSELVES by behaving like mature adults which teenagers are presumed to be at age 18! And as for taking drugs, I never did, neither did my children, nor any of their friends, so I have to question your blanket observation that "everyone" does it, because they clearly don't. Some people lead happy fulfilled lives without the need for chemical enhancement. YES, really!

Please do not presume to tell me what opinions I may hold about anyone I please, and don't just assume that all older people ever behaved in the disgusting way that Frankie does. And NO, not every teenage boy takes drugs, shags around, thinks 24/7 about sex and talks disgustingly about the opposite sex as if they were put on earth for his entertainment as some sort of sex toy. It's really quite ridiculous to generalise that every teenage boy is like Frankie. Sadly some are, but I can assure you that thankfully the majority are not.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

No they were in the garden sitting side by side.Kirk pulled his waist band up and was looking down at his privates and as ked Frankie to take a look which Frankie did.He then asked Frankie to get hold of it.Frankie looked away with a disgusted look on his face.

I saw him pull his waistband out and say something,but didnt hear what he said, thank you for clearing that up

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Angus

As a woman, I am offended and disgusted by Frankie, and as a mother of two now grown up sons I can assure you that they were both brought up to respect women as equals, and to observe the basic social courtesies of not groping and fondling themselves in public, refraining from making overtly crude sexual comments not only about women behind their backs, but to their faces, and to ultimately respect THEMSELVES by behaving like mature adults which teenagers are presumed to be at age 18! And as for taking drugs, I never did, neither did my children, nor any of their friends, so I have to question your blanket observation that "everyone" does it, because they clearly don't. Some people lead happy fulfilled lives without the need for chemical enhancement. YES, really!

Please do not presume to tell me what opinions I may hold about anyone I please, and don't just assume that all older people ever behaved in the disgusting way that Frankie does. And NO, not every teenage boy takes drugs, shags around, thinks 24/7 about sex and talks disgustingly about the opposite sex as if they were put on earth for his entertainment as some sort of sex toy. It's really quite ridiculous to generalise that every teenage boy is like Frankie. Sadly some are, but I can assure you that thankfully the majority are not.

As a female with older children too,I am not in the slightest insulted by Frankie, and lets be honest love, none of KNOWS what our older children do when not in the house

[InOne]

Frankie seems ok really. Could imagine having a good night round the town with him. He's not unlike most people his age.

[Locke.]

Frankie was great on X Factor and is even better on this. He is going to win.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Frankie was great on X Factor and is even better on this. He is going to win.

I didnt like him on x factor, and as much as I would like him to, i doubt he can win this

[Locke.]

I don't think he was a good singer or anything but he was one of the ones you'd look forward to every week. I said before this started that he'd win it and I still think he will... a lot of young girls like him and I've seen quite a lot of people saying they were wrong about him on X Factor and also like him now. He will get a lot of good edits aswell

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

I don't think he was a good singer or anything but he was one of the ones you'd look forward to every week. I said before this started that he'd win it and I still think he will... a lot of young girls like him and I've seen quite a lot of people saying they were wrong about him on X Factor and also like him now. He will get a lot of good edits aswell

Fingers crossed !!

[Angus]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

As a female with older children too,I am not in the slightest insulted by Frankie, and lets be honest love, none of KNOWS what our older children do when not in the house

Bully for you, but let's be honest not all parents are the same are they LOVE, anymore than their kids are? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree - true saying.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Angus

Bully for you, but let's be honest not all parents are the same are they LOVE, anymore than their kids are? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree - true saying.

VERY true saying LOVE

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Frankie was great on X Factor and is even better on this. He is going to win.

Sorry to disappoint you Locke this one is all Michael's.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Angus

As a woman, I am offended and disgusted by Frankie, and as a mother of two now grown up sons I can assure you that they were both brought up to respect women as equals, and to observe the basic social courtesies of not groping and fondling themselves in public, refraining from making overtly crude sexual comments not only about women behind their backs, but to their faces, and to ultimately respect THEMSELVES by behaving like mature adults which teenagers are presumed to be at age 18! And as for taking drugs, I never did, neither did my children, nor any of their friends, so I have to question your blanket observation that "everyone" does it, because they clearly don't. Some people lead happy fulfilled lives without the need for chemical enhancement. YES, really!

Please do not presume to tell me what opinions I may hold about anyone I please, and don't just assume that all older people ever behaved in the disgusting way that Frankie does. And NO, not every teenage boy takes drugs, shags around, thinks 24/7 about sex and talks disgustingly about the opposite sex as if they were put on earth for his entertainment as some sort of sex toy. It's really quite ridiculous to generalise that every teenage boy is like Frankie. Sadly some are, but I can assure you that thankfully the majority are not.

But then again all mothers think their sons are respectful young men when the fact is they masterbate over porn, get drunk and talk dirty about girls like every other teenage boy.

And yes im sure none of their friends or them themselves have ever touched alcohol or drugs lol (sarcasm)

You sound slightly in denial

#JustSaying

[Mystic Mock]

I honestly don't get how the same people that hated Justin Waggot last year can even like Frankie,they behave the same and if Frankie is old enough to go on the show then his old enough to be judged for his vile behaviour.

[Vicky.]

Frankie is nothing like Jay...

If anything..and this is even stretching it a bit, hes more like Anton (with the way he talks about women and that)

Jay was disliked because of his vulgar streak IMO, thats certainly why I disliked him. I just cant warm to someone whos life revolve around their anus and what comes out of it

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Frankie is nothing like Jay...

If anything..and this is even stretching it a bit, hes more like Anton (with the way he talks about women and that)

Jay was disliked because of his vulgar streak IMO, thats certainly why I disliked him. I just cant warm to someone whos life revolve around their anus and what comes out of it

Frankie is vulgar though and Jay was also quite bad about talking about women in dirty and sexual ways.

[Me. I Am Salman]

My perception of Frankie:
A smelly dick who needs a 10 hour shower

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Salman!

My perception of Frankie:
A smelly dick who needs a 10 hour shower

And have Jedward sing Oops I Did It Again at the same time.

[Harry!]

Not really, least he has had a wash in the house.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Frankie is vulgar though and Jay was also quite bad about talking about women in dirty and sexual ways.

Ahh come on jf. I know you dont like him, but you cant seriously be trying to compare a few off remarks about women and a bit of nose picking to putting **** in the freezer...****ting while someone is in the bath whilst making sure it was as loud as possible and having a wanking competiton in public?!(there is more no doubt... but those came to mind first)

Frankie has bad manners...and bad views on women. However, a lot of teenage lads have the same attitude as he does tbh, not that this makes it right...but thats life

[mangled]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Trust me Mangled,I have quite a few friends and they aren't stupid enough to take cocaine.

And no I still don't like him as his Kirk's bitch.

maybe the should smarten up and buck the trend :P

but seriously you must be on coke to make over 12,000 posts in 24months, bearing in mind big brother is only on about 4/5 months of the year. SPEEDY GONZALEZ!!!!

DISCLAIMER: NONE OF MY ABOVE STATEMENTS ARE ENCOURAGING THE USE OR ABUSE OF DRUGS.

[mangled]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

I find this part of the post very insulting as i'm not anything like Frankie Cocozza,infact I would rather be like someone from TOWIE (that isn't Kirk) than be compared to Frankie Cocozza.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHaCzb3yYk

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ahh come on jf. I know you dont like him, but you cant seriously be trying to compare a few off remarks about women and a bit of nose picking to putting **** in the freezer...****ting while someone is in the bath whilst making sure it was as loud as possible and having a wanking competiton in public?!(there is more no doubt... but those came to mind first)

Frankie has bad manners...and bad views on women. However, a lot of teenage lads have the same attitude as he does tbh, not that this makes it right...but thats life

I know Jay was worse but I definitely see similarities between the two of them.

And I know there are people like Frankie out there but thankfully there also many that isn't like him and I would like to add myself into the latter category.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by mangled

maybe the should smarten up and buck the trend :P

but seriously you must be on coke to make over 12,000 posts in 24months, bearing in mind big brother is only on about 4/5 months of the year. SPEEDY GONZALEZ!!!!

DISCLAIMER: NONE OF MY ABOVE STATEMENTS ARE ENCOURAGING THE USE OR ABUSE OF DRUGS.

I have grown attached to the forum,that's how i've made that many posts in 24 months.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

I have grown attached to the forum,that's how i've made that many posts in 24 months.

Yup, and while BB is not on, those of us who stick about find other rubbish to talk about. Hence higher post counts