[Livia]

Any white person prepared to use the 'n' word, in any context whatsoever, has got to be a dedicated non-thinker with a respect deficit. If black people have chosen to reclaim the word, that's their choice. White people cannot decide what black people will or will not find offensive. I think black people have made it pretty clear that they feel it is okay for them to use the word, and offensive for white people to use it. It's quite easy to understand.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Any white person prepared to use the 'n' word, in any context whatsoever, has got to be a dedicated non-thinker with a respect deficit. If black people have chosen to reclaim the word, that's their choice. White people cannot decide what black people will or will not find offensive. I think black people have made it pretty clear that they feel it is okay for them to use the word, and offensive for white people to use it. It's quite easy to understand.

you are a racist then. you cannot deny that you are,. you have just said that people should be judged on race and not the content of their hearts. therefore you ARE a racist. you just saiud that a black person's opinion matters more than a white person's opinion. That is racist.

You JUST said that you think it's okay for a black person to judge a white person BASED ON RACE. THAT IS RACIST.

if we lived in a fair world, you would get an infraction for being racist. what you just said IS racist. There's no way for you to deny that what you just said is racist.

You just said that people should be treated differently because of race. how is that not racist?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you are a racist then. you cannot deny that you are,. you have just said that people should be judged on race and not the content of their hearts. therefore you ARE a racist.

You JUST said that you think okay for a black person to judge a white person BASED ON RACE. THAT IS RACIST.

I'm a Jew, as you know Lostalex. You're always very quick - hysterically quick - to accuse others of racism, and yet you yourself are one of only two people on this forum who have abused me on the grounds that I'm Jewish. Strangely, the other person was also north American. Never had a problem with a Brit, the question never comes up. I find it highly ironic that the person on here who is always flanting around accusing others of racism is actually a bit of a racist himself.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm a Jew, as you know Lostalex. You're always very quick - hysterically quick - to accuse others of racism, and yet you yourself are one of only two people on this forum who have abused me on the grounds that I'm Jewish. Strangely, the other person was also north American. Never had a problem with a Brit, the question never comes up. I find it highly ironic that the person on here who is always flanting around accusing others of racism is actually a bit of a racist himself.

jewish is not a race. Jewish is a choice, unlike race or sexuality, i know you would love to convince people that jews are an ethnicity though, but it's not.

Religion is a CHOICE. race and sexuality is NOT a CHOICE. so stop trying to play the victim livia.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

jewish is not a race. Jewish is a choice, unlike race or sexuality, i know you would love to convince people that jews are an ethnicity though, but it's not.

Religion is a CHOICE. race and sexuality is NOT a CHOICE. so stop trying to play the victim livia.

And you think others are naive.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by lostalex

jewish is not a race. Jewish is a choice, unlike race or sexuality, i know you would love to convince people that jews are an ethnicity though, but it's not.

Religion is a CHOICE. race and sexuality is NOT a CHOICE. so stop trying to play the victim livia.

You are right. Jewish is not a race.

[InOne]

Regarding Black people and the N word. They use it with themselves as an insult and a none insult, it's pretty interchangeable it seems. Can any Black person give any decent reason why they should use the N word so casually with eachother when it caused so much pain for their ancestors? I've not heard one yet, that little question is often swiftly deflected.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by InOne

Regarding Black people and the N word. They use it with themselves as an insult and a none insult, it's pretty interchangeable it seems. Can any Black person give any decent reason why they should use the N word so casually with eachother when it caused so much pain for their ancestors? I've not heard one yet, that little question is often swiftly deflected.

It seems to me that the new generations don't really understand fully the old connotations that word must have had for people, and just think it's a bit of a joke really

[InOne]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

It seems to me that the new generations don't really understand fully the old connotations that word must have had for people, and just think it's a bit of a joke really

The ignorant masses eh.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by InOne

The ignorant masses eh.

ignorance is bliss I guess!

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

It seems to me that the new generations don't really understand fully the old connotations that word must have had for people, and just think it's a bit of a joke really

the n word has been used this way since the late 70s, early 80s at least. It's nothing new

[Kizzy]

This had potential to be a really good thread, but unfortunately it's had so much stripped out of it, it's sort of ground to a halt.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

This had potential to be a really good thread, but unfortunately it's had so much stripped out of it, it's sort of ground to a halt.

Its had your 'handbags at 50 paces' comments with alex removed is all...

Originally Posted by kizzy

Its had your 'handbags at 50 paces' comments with alex removed is all...

It's had a lot removed from last night. We've started page 5 of this thread about 15 different times. I've had a few posts removed from last night too (some correctly, some questionably), and I think some of yours have been deleted.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's had a lot removed from last night. We've started page 5 of this thread about 15 different times. I've had a few posts removed from last night too (some correctly, some questionably), and I think some of yours have been deleted.

What?!

[Brother Leon]

**** it, I'll bite for the very last time.



Reasons why Black people use the N Word and White people shouldn't etc.


1. As stated around 8 times already in the thread, It is considered to be a way of reclaiming the word back from when it was used during slavery.


2. 99.9% of the time it is used by black people it is similar to White people going "How's it going dude" etc.

3. The same way, I don't use the word P**i or F*g yet Pakistanis and gay people would use to towards each other.

4. Now are you ready for the REAL PROPER REASON? Good



Do you not think about some of the "ghosts" of black people's ancestors? Think about how some black people would feel hearing this word come out of a white person.... It's idiotic to compare this feeling to how it would be if black people were using.


When a black person uses the word ***** towards my father, or if my boys use it towards me etc, My father would not think of that person holding a whip and barking orders towards him as he is worked like an animal, he wouldn't think of that person forcing him to go to the back of the bus, he wouldn't get images of being hung, pointed and laughed at. This is just how life is.

If you really do no understand why it is still used by black people, then you should just ask one in person, because I am outty.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by King_Anton

**** it, I'll bite for the very last time.... etc. etc.

Eloquently put, King A.

Originally Posted by King_Anton

**** it, I'll bite for the very last time.



Reasons why Black people use the N Word and White people shouldn't etc.


1. As stated around 8 times already in the thread, It is considered to be a way of reclaiming the word back from when it was used during slavery.


2. 99.9% of the time it is used by black people it is similar to White people going "How's it going dude" etc.

3. The same way, I don't use the word P**i or F*g yet Pakistanis and gay people would use to towards each other.

4. Now are you ready for the REAL PROPER REASON? Good



Do you not think about some of the "ghosts" of black people's ancestors? Think about how some black people would feel hearing this word come out of a white person.... It's idiotic to compare this feeling to how it would be if black people were using.


When a black person uses the word ***** towards my father, or if my boys use it towards me etc, My father would not think of that person holding a whip and barking orders towards him as he is worked like an animal, he wouldn't think of that person forcing him to go to the back of the bus, he wouldn't get images of being hung, pointed and laughed at. This is just how life is.

If you really do no understand why it is still used by black people, then you should just ask one in person, because I am outty.

Racist

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Racist

I should hold an 8 week ban tbh

[InOne]

Why would you want to reclaim a word that started off derogatory in the first place?

And please don't get on your high horse with all this "biting" nonsense, can people not just ask questions these days without people jumping to the worst?

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by InOne

Why would you want to reclaim a word that started off derogatory in the first place?

And please don't get on your high horse with all this "biting" nonsense, can people not just ask questions these days without people jumping to the worst?

to make it less derogatory...?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

to make it less derogatory...?

But the word will always have massive connotations, it's pretty much a fact.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by InOne

Why would you want to reclaim a word that started off derogatory in the first place?

And please don't get on your high horse with all this "biting" nonsense, can people not just ask questions these days without people jumping to the worst?

The reasons have been stated time and time again in the thread.

*shrugs*

I am genuinely sorry if you feel that way, but the thread has been pages of repeating the same points

[InOne]

Originally Posted by King_Anton

The reason's have been stated time and time again in the thread.

*shrugs*

I am genuinely sorry if you feel that way, but the thread has been pages of repeating the same points

Yeah I can see it has gone round in circles and that, but I wasn't trying to stir anything up. I think it's better to get everything out so there's not a barrier of ignorance if you get me. If people understand, then they can't use ignorance as an excuse to be casually racist.