[Kizzy]

Can't copy and paste
This Pub-Med article may be the reason for the mothers decision?
''Post operative chemotherapy without radiation in young children with malignant non astrocytic brain tumours''
This report shows that in cases of medullblastomas radiation is not always necessary.

[Livia]

I'd be inclined to listen to the people who've studied medicine for seven years, then more post grad studies, then working in the field they specialised in. They're not in it because they want your child to die and I'd place much more trust in them than I would a homeopath or in stuff I'd Googled.

[Kizzy]

So the people who produced the report I googled are not specialists in their field?
If you wish to debate the point livia it would be easier if you directed any post responding to my comments to me.

This is the link to the information if anyone is interested.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8339393

[Kizzy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012....html?ncid=GEP

She told Daybreak that she was not adamantly opposed to giving her son radiotherapy treatment. She said: "I have been asking the whole time, 'Please show me evidence that he does need this treatment'."The only thing they can come up with is a study from the 1940s. It's just radiotherapy, this is how we do it, chemotherapy - they haven't been exploring other options."

Ms Roberts said she had been contacted by medical professionals supporting her belief that there are other options to treat her son.

Speaking about why she was so against her son receiving radiotherapy, she said: "Because it damages your DNA.

"I feel we can still save his life. I'm incredibly confident. That's exactly why I don't just want to race into radiotherapy."

[arista]

Yes Sally has a view.


But Doctors say More stay alive after radiotherapy
Lifesaver, infact - 80% survive.

Without it only 40% survive.


Ref :Ch5News

[arista]

"I feel we can still save his life. I'm incredibly confident."


No Kizzy
she is Not a Doctor in this Field
and has no real idea



Good news is after the Scan
they can go ahead if he is confirmed with that condition

[Kizzy]

No arista...
I don't care what channel 5 news say, 80% of who survive what?
And I didn't say she was a doctor did I?
When facts are posted try to not ignore them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

No arista...
I don't care what channel 5 news say, 80% of who survive what?
And I didn't say she was a doctor did I?
When facts are posted try to not ignore them.

Ch5News is supplied by ITN.


I know you did not say she is a Doctor
but its Important to point out.

And the 80% Stay Alive
of course.

[Kizzy]

80% of who survive what though arista?
It's not important to point out it is a nonsensical statement, she has not professed to be a doctor and I haven't suggested she was either.

[arista]

It means 40% more who had treatment Do Not Die

80% is a good result

[Kizzy]

Nobody is disputing radiation works as a treatment for cancer arista.
How specific was the news item,
What type of tumour was it, where was it, how old were the patients?...
All these factors are important in the decision she made, that was backed by medical evidence and professionals.

[Vanessa]

I understand her reasons for wanting to explore an alternative cure. But i really hope she won't end up regretting it.

[thesheriff443]

you have to give your child the best chance of survival,you wont do it by giving him some raw nettles,

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by triplexxxmas

you have give your child the best chance of survival,you wont do it by giving him some raw nettles,

Exactly. And radiotherapy isn't as harsh as chemotherapy.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Exactly. And radiotherapy isn't as harsh as chemotherapy.

true,
doctors are there to save lifes not take them

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by triplexxxmas

you have to give your child the best chance of survival,you wont do it by giving him some raw nettles,

That comment shows you haven't read one thing about this case sheriff...

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

That comment shows you haven't read one thing about this case sheriff...

no it shows you will go around the house.s trying to support your opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by triplexxxmas

no it shows you will go around the house.s trying to support your opinion.

Well of course I will!
If by around the houses you mean with the use of relevant information from reputable sources?..
I wouldn't want to come across as ignorant to the facts.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by triplexxxmas

you have to give your child the best chance of survival,you wont do it by giving him some raw nettles,

Quite right. Still the doctors are being made out to be some kind of Frankensteins, and still the wacky mother, who has about as much medical knowledge as most people on this thread, is being viewed like she has a point. Still haven't heard from the father, interestingly. I guess his story doesn't make such sensational reading.

[Kizzy]

That's because she does have a point.
She is in an impossible position, to label her wacky is unnecessary.
Do you need a medical degree to debate an issue now?

[Kizzy]

That's because she does have a point.
She is in an impossible position, to label her wacky is unnecessary.
Do you need a medical degree to debate an issue now?

[arista]

Today the Judge has said tomorrow
the boy will have urgent surgery,
to remove more of the tumour.

The Mother is against this ruling.



Ref Ch5News

[Petershaw1984]

Such a tough argument this

[Livia]

It seems the decision has now been taken out of her hands. I notice she had dismissed her barrister half way through the proceedings. It appears she can accept neither medical nor legal advice.

[Kizzy]

How disgusting.
This mother has the support of many experts in Europe and other areas of the world.
It is a shame that our approach to alternatives to established medical practices is so behind the times.
A glib dismissive attitude towards a heart wrenching situation could not be less humane, christian or even understandable to me....
All I can say is I hope that this child survives and the actions his mother took to save his life were not in vain.