[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by KingBilly

They're more like heroes than victims.

One is the modern day Jesus, whilst the other is the modern day Mother Theresa.

Blasphemy!!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Sokratez

Everything started when Frankie and Rylan put them in the basement and got mad when Spencer and Heidy didn't want to say hi to them. It seems that a lot of people forget that this is what got things going.

This group have zero empathy and are only bothered about themselves. Speidi were suffering from severe jet lag at the time, with a couple of housemates commenting on how sick Spencer was.

Spencer was right. They don't care about each other like they pretend. Ryan found that out very recently. Poor guy.

[Blue Cadillac]

[QUOTE=MrWong;5789355]This group have zero empathy and are only bothered about themselves. Speidi were suffering from severe jet lag at the time,

Do these z-list celebrities fly to the UK the day before the show starts then? I would have thought BB would have paid for them to come here at least a good few days beforehand. Where is the evidence that they had jet lag, apart from them spewing so from their own mouths? Incidentally, does this mean that Ryan could also use that same excuse? If so, and he was also 'suffering' from severe jet lag, why wasn't he equally as rude and obnoxious as Speidi?

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by MrWong

This group have zero empathy and are only bothered about themselves. Speidi were suffering from severe jet lag at the time, with a couple of housemates commenting on how sick Spencer was.

Oh come on... I've suffered from jet lag and stomach flu at the same time, and still managed to say hi to people. It's not that hard.

When Frankie went down there, they behaved like children and literally hid from him... Utterly pathetic, and there are no excuses for that kind of behaviour whether you like them or not.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Do these z-list celebrities fly to the UK the day before the show starts then? I would have thought BB would have paid for them to come here at least a good few days beforehand. Where is the evidence that they had jet lag, apart from them spewing so from their own mouths? Incidentally, does this mean that Ryan could also use that same excuse? If so, and he was also 'suffering' from severe jet lag, why wasn't he equally as rude and obnoxious as Speidi?

Evidence for jet lag?? They said it (which is valid. Hardly spewing).

Did you miss the part where I also said that a couple of hm's mentioned Spencer being sick? Or are they also spewing from their own mouths and not be believed?

Btw. The effects of jet lag affect people differently. Some cope well, some feel like ****e for a week or more.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

Oh come on... I've suffered from jet lag and stomach flu at the same time, and still managed to say hi to people. It's not that hard.

When Frankie went down there, they behaved like children and literally hid from him... Utterly pathetic, and there are no excuses for that kind of behaviour whether you like them or not.

Me too on a trip to Aus. My first 3 days I stayed in the hotel feeling like utter ****e, i barely grunted at room service.

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Evidence for jet lag?? They said it (which is valid. Hardly spewing).

Did you miss the part where I also said that a couple of hm's mentioned Spencer being sick? Or are they also spewing from their own mouths and not be believed?

Btw. The effects of jet lag affect people differently. Some cope well, some feel like ****e for a week or more.

Then maybe they shouldn't have signed up for the show in the first instance, if they 'suffer' so much with jet lag that it makes them wholly unsociable and isolated.

As for the only evidence pointing to Speidi saying it themselves - well, I rest my case.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Me too on a trip to Aus. My first 3 days I stayed in the hotel feeling like utter ****e, i barely grunted at room service.

This was people they were going to live with for weeks possibly, not room service. It also wasn't the reason they told eachother why they wouldn't go up...

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Livia

They're a pair of ignorant, duplicitous, untruthful, talentless, boring non-entities. They can't do anything, they have no skills to offer, they're not great conversationalists, they haven't any discernable talents, they're not witty, funny or amusing... so I struggle to see why people are voting for these deeply unlikeable people. All I hear is that "the others are boring". Well, how would we know?

Spot on Livia

They are a couple of complete arseholes...

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Evidence for jet lag?? They said it (which is valid. Hardly spewing).

Did you miss the part where I also said that a couple of hm's mentioned Spencer being sick? Or are they also spewing from their own mouths and not be believed?

Btw. The effects of jet lag affect people differently. Some cope well, some feel like ****e for a week or more.

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Then maybe they shouldn't have signed up for the show in the first instance, if they 'suffer' so much with jet lag that it makes them wholly unsociable and isolated.

As for the only evidence pointing to Speidi saying it themselves - well, I rest my case.

You've missed it again. Others pointed it out too. Paula on BOTS was one and Lacey was the other.

[Blue Cadillac]

Well, my heart bleeds for poor old Spencer, who was probably faking it anyway. Can you imagine him sparing any sympathy for any of the other housemates if they felt unwell? I think not. He'd probably just have a laugh about it on the bed with Heidi, as usual.

Besides, did you miss MY point, regarding the fact that perhaps they shouldn't have entered the house in the first place if they are so affected by jet lag?!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

This was people they were going to live with for weeks possibly, not room service. It also wasn't the reason they told eachother why they wouldn't go up...

That maybe so but even without the jet lag they're hardly Mr and Mrs sociable. I will however concede that a nod in their general direction would have sufficed.

They had a few reasons, jet lag was one of them.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Well, my heart bleeds for poor old Spencer, who was probably faking it anyway. Can you imagine him sparing any sympathy for any of the other housemates if they felt unwell? I think not. He'd probably just have a laugh about it on the bed with Heidi, as usual.

Besides, did you miss MY point, regarding the fact that perhaps they shouldn't have entered the house in the first place if they are so affected by jet lag?!

Of course they should have. It's not like the jet lag would have lasted the 3 weeks of their stay.

[Slevin]

idk how early some get there coming from the US. i do remember that The Situation said he got there the night before that CBB started.