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Old 31-07-2013, 09:47 PM #76
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I'm gay and I would feel uncomfortable had someone said that to me tbh.
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Is this taken from official BB bio? If it is I'm surprised nobody bothered to take that specific part out, for the sake of political correctness and all. I'm convinced he is or isn't homophobic, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though. Comments like that are really open to interpretation though and he's left the door wide open for speculation by commenting specifically on a particular sexual orientation.
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On tonight's live feed, referring to Dexter's comment that he will "stick it in" him if Callum screws him over, Callum claimed Dexter wanted to "homosexually assault" him.

Why on earth did he choose those terms when he could have just said "sexual assault"

SAM also said he would have "punched" Dexter if he had said that to him.

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Callum claims that others in the house would get annoyed by his “very good looks” as all the attention will be on him. He likes an argument but doesn’t like very religious or overly camp gay people.

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb14/housemates/callum-knell

Is Callum homophobic? What about Sam? They seem to have the mindset of many typical straight guys. Very ignorant!!
Having just watched the programme Callum said nothing at all about homosexual acts.
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I'm gay and I would feel uncomfortable had someone said that to me tbh.
Thank you. A voice of reason. If the convo went as Callum said it was a case of a small man Dexter trying to make himself powerful over Callum.
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Yeah but,For example,You can get on with normal gay men but you may not like the thought of what they do with each other.If they are really camp then they are basically throwing it in your face and you can't look past that because of all the super camp act.Obviously a camp straight bloke does'nt commit gay acts,He may just do the camp thing cos he thinks it's cool or chicks like it or whatever but you would know that he's straight.You could get on with a non camp gay man fine as he's not throwing his sexuality in your face everytime he talks.Hence Callum is perfectly within his rights to say that he does'nt like overtly gay men without being branded homophobic.
All gay people are protected by the law and just like anyone else, are entitled to respect. You seem to suggest that being camp is not normal and you are on very shaky ground here. You also have no right to judge people on the basis of 'what they do with each other', to say so is frankly ridiculous. Therefore, even if you are not just winding people up, you are not entitled to say such things about gay people, camp or otherwise.
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Yeah but,For example,You can get on with normal gay men but you may not like the thought of what they do with each other.If they are really camp then they are basically throwing it in your face and you can't look past that because of all the super camp act.Obviously a camp straight bloke does'nt commit gay acts,He may just do the camp thing cos he thinks it's cool or chicks like it or whatever but you would know that he's straight.You could get on with a non camp gay man fine as he's not throwing his sexuality in your face everytime he talks.Hence Callum is perfectly within his rights to say that he does'nt like overtly gay men without being branded homophobic.
the basis of this post is "I don't like gay sex" and that's just sad that you can't get past that.
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Having just watched the programme Callum said nothing at all about homosexual acts.
He said to Dexter you wanted to 'homosexually assault me', but BB didn't show it.
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^^^

lol I was about to say the same thing. Being straight, I don't like gay sex either, but I don't actually judge other people or have predetermined convictions about them based on what they do, or don't do, in their bedrooms...

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All gay people are protected by the law and just like anyone else, are entitled to respect. You seem to suggest that being camp is not normal and you are on very shaky ground here. You also have no right to judge people on the basis of 'what they do with each other', to say so is frankly ridiculous. Therefore, even if you are not just winding people up, you are not entitled to say such things about gay people, camp or otherwise.
I'm saying that Callum may not like the thought of actual gay acts but does'nt judge a person on the fact that that's what they do(which would be homophobic).But obviously if they are "overtly camp" then they are throwing that fact in his face.Maybe i did'nt explain right.Basically he does'nt have to agree with them fancying men or he's homophobic.That's ridiculous,Different horses for different courses,But if a camp gay man was constantly throwing the fact at him whenever he spoke to them then he is not gonna get on with them is he?He would probably find it annoying,We all find some people annoying.As long as he's not saying he hates all gay men,He's just saying he does'nt like camp gay men.Nothing wrong in that.
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the basis of this post is "I don't like gay sex" and that's just sad that you can't get past that.
Im talking about how Callum may feel not me.lol
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I'm saying that Callum may not like the thought of actual gay acts but does'nt judge a person on the fact that that's what they do(which would be homophobic).But obviously if they are "overtly camp" then they are throwing that fact in his face.Maybe i did'nt explain right.Basically he does'nt have to agree with them fancying men or he's homophobic.That's ridiculous,Different horses for different courses,But if a camp gay man was constantly throwing the fact at him whenever he spoke to them then he is not gonna get on with them is he?He would probably find it annoying,We all find some people annoying.As long as he's not saying he hates all gay men,He's just saying he does'nt like camp gay men.Nothing wrong in that.
Nobody has a right to judge people of whatever sexuality on what they do in bed. All this talk of not liking 'gay acts' belongs to the past. I don't agree that camp people throw their sexuality in people's faces, it's rubbish. If Callum has problems with 'gay acts' or 'overly camp gay people', to the extent that he thinks it's worth mentioning in his bio, he should add these problems to the growing list of issues with which he might benefit from professional help.
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Then it would be the 'camp' that your subject dislikes, not the gay. He would have the same problem with camp straight people, right?
Right, that would be the logical conclusion to draw.

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But hold on, that might only be just a minority of a few camp people. There could be many camp people in the world that you subject gets on with.
There could be, and in all probability, there actually are.

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The problem with Callum is that he said he dislikes 'overly camp gay people' but has he met all of them, in the whole world?
No he hasn't. He's just talking from his own experiences. That's what people usually tend to do

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What does he mean by 'overly', what in his opinion? And why does he even have a problem with camp?
We can't read his mind, but at the end of the day he is entitled to his opinion. He has the right to like and dislike who he chooses. There is no law (yet), that says everybody must like all types of gay people.
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Right, that would be the logical conclusion to draw.



There could be, and in all probability, there actually are.



No he hasn't. He's just talking from his own experiences. That's what people usually tend to do



We can't read his mind, but at the end of the day he is entitled to his opinion. He has the right to like and dislike who he chooses. There is no law (yet), that says everybody must like all types of gay people.
You are clearly happy to let Callum dismiss thousands of people on the basis of his limited 'experiences', I am not, I think it's ignorant and narrow-minded. Callum has to be taken on his word/opinion, which he has expressed publicly, so naturally people are going to reject such an opinion as ludicrous because he is judging people he has not met. On top of this, why would anybody dislike somebody because they are gay and camp without finding out what sort of person they are? Are camp gay people not capable of being kind, intelligent, productive, loving, generous and brave?
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