[billy123]

More tragic than hilarious.
Since her appearances on bots and her appeals and petitions to get into CBB she vanished from facebook and twitter for over a year and now she doesnt seem to be the same at all.
I have no idea what happened but she just isnt the same.
Theres something really tragic about her she seems so unhappy.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by PrincessIona

Actually research has shown that transgendered people are trapped in the body of the opposite sex. They have cut open the brains and discovered a transgendered person born a man would have the brain of a women.

So, Lauren has the brain of a woman, and as much as science will allow, the body of a woman. Making her, in my view, a woman.

Exactly brain scans have been done loads of times which have shown that transgender people have the brains of the gender they feel they are inside.Gender is about the gender of your brain not your body.There is an accident that happens at birth which messes up one of the chromosomes when it should have turned out the other way apart from an accident on the father's side at conception.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I still don't wholly buy the "I was born in the wrong body" thing.... and until as recently as 2002 nor did the British medical establishment: it was regarded as a mental health issue.

However, Lauren did pay for her own surgery, so she was not a drain on the NHS. The same can't be said for other transsexuals I've met. I understand these operations can cost the taxpayer in the region of £10-15k.

Trangender people's brains are the gender they think they are.Unless you want all transgender's to have brain surgery then how do you expect them to be happy unless you change the body ? The body is created wrongly round the different gendered brain which has been proven in studies umpteen times.It only takes stress on the father's side to b*gger up one of the chromosomes so a transgendered person grows up with the brain of one gender trapped inside the body of someone with the other gender's body so they haven't got the chromosomes they should have because of it being messed up on the father's side which can just be by stress.Is it any wonder Lauren behaves awkwardly,because she's nervous about all the ignorance about what makes transgender people around her, and is it any wonder she gets angry sometimes ?

It is now accepted by many that gay people can't help the way they were born and that they are born with a gay brain by many who didn't accept it before.How many years will it take till transgender people which are much different than being gay are given the same courtesy and accepted that they can't help how they were born too.

How long till many in the general public accept they have the brains of the gender they think they are and how long till someone can be judged on whether they are funny or nor as a person and not having to have it linked to whether they are transgender or not ?

[Pincho Paxton]

The Lauren Song Was funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_92CUHSPYkE

Now take a look at this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd-ueLAgIQU

Now all somebody has to do is overdub the Lauren song over the Ostrich movie.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I still don't wholly buy the "I was born in the wrong body" thing.... and until as recently as 2002 nor did the British medical establishment: it was regarded as a mental health issue.

However, Lauren did pay for her own surgery, so she was not a drain on the NHS. The same can't be said for other transsexuals I've met. I understand these operations can cost the taxpayer in the region of £10-15k.

yeah...no. I don't see somebody getting the treatment or surgery they need to live healthy happy lives is a drain on the NHS. I see that as the NHS doing its job.

Not to mention that what may well be a drain on the NHS is when it has to pick up the pieces after someone's been and had their op done elsewhere and it's all gone horribly wrong.

[MachoPoodle]

I'm a bit skeptic about the whole transgender thing, and being born in the wrong body etc. However, on a personal level, I have no problem with transgender people and I worry more about them making a potentially harmful, drastic decision (surgery) that will cause them personal grief later in life than I do what it might cost taxpayers. Regardless of my views though, I don't think I have a right to decide something so important for someone else, not to mention it's probably best not to generalize too much since each individual's life, experience and reasons probably differs quite a bit.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Trangender people's brains are the gender they think they are.

It is a question of whether it is a mental health issue. Until 11 years ago (only 3 years ago in France), it was treated as just that. I am not aware of any startling new scientific discoveries that have altered the position.

Treating it as something that can be "cured" by radical surgery and a lifetime's supply of hormone pills is dubious, to say the least and raises suspicion of pandering to the PC brigade.

I am not taking up an entrenched position... I remain on the fence but a bit sceptical. I am quite happy if people want to make themselves into faux-women or, more rarely, faux-men at their own expense as Lauren has done.

But I'm not convinced taxpayers' money should be used in this way for people who are physically completely healthy and who may, in fact, develop health issues as a result of gender reassignment. I have spoken to a number of transsexuals and such problems are real, not theoretical.

[DanaC]

The American Psychiatric Association only removed homosexuality from it's guidelines in the early 1970s.


Incidentally, I also have spoken to quite a few transgender people about the psychiatric aspects of their treatment and a few other matters. I was part of a working group that looked into the local health trust's provisions for transgender patients.

The move away from considering it a purely psychiatric condition has been fought for for a very long time. And, funnily enough, the most ardent advocates for keeping that designation were the psychiatrists whose living consisted primarily of 'treating' transgender patients.

I use 'treating' in that way, because I heard some pretty disturbing testimonies about power trips from those who had absolute power over their patients ability to progress their treatment to a final conclusion.

For example: did you know that as an NHS patient seeking gender reassignment, you not only had to show that you had lived as your target gender for two years, but also that you had to be in employment? (though that may have been peculiar to our health trust).

Why?

[Kizzy]

I really don't see the issue, we are on this planet for a short while is some feel they would be happy living as a different gender let them....

Maybe ensuring they are employed is a gauge to measure if there isn't another underlying mental health issue that could be contributing to their gender confusion?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DanaC

The American Psychiatric Association only removed homosexuality from it's guidelines in the early 1970s.


Incidentally, I also have spoken to quite a few transgender people about the psychiatric aspects of their treatment and a few other matters. I was part of a working group that looked into the local health trust's provisions for transgender patients.

The move away from considering it a purely psychiatric condition has been fought for for a very long time. And, funnily enough, the most ardent advocates for keeping that designation were the psychiatrists whose living consisted primarily of 'treating' transgender patients.

I use 'treating' in that way, because I heard some pretty disturbing testimonies about power trips from those who had absolute power over their patients ability to progress their treatment to a final conclusion.

For example: did you know that as an NHS patient seeking gender reassignment, you not only had to show that you had lived as your target gender for two years, but also that you had to be in employment? (though that may have been peculiar to our health trust).

Why?

Are you seriously telling me,That my taxes have paid towards some bloke getting his winkie cut off and tits?I thought this would be private.Right,That's it,I'm going on benefits.

[CaudleHalbard]

I would never want to deny anyone the right to happiness.

But, from my own experience and contacts, I have doubts about the surgery/hormone pills route and - far more importantly - whether the state should be spending several thousands of pounds, per case, operating on healthy people.

It should be like cosmetic surgery. If you want it, you pay for it yourself.

[DanaC]

I sort of see where you're coming from. And I agree, in many cases there are later problems. Some people feel so sure that if ony that were resolved, as the root of their problems, they will then be happier. It can come as a shock to those who don't end up feeling happy.

But: that is a portion of the people who have the procedure. Lots of people go on to find that, though they still have other issues and problems to work through, setting that fundamental sense of dislocation to rest allows them to find some kind of peace in themselves.

And there is an argument to be had, as to whether the process would be so heightened and anti-climactic, were it allowed to follow a less traumatising path.

[erinp5]

4:05pm: Lauren's co-ordinating with the soft furnishings. We give her a gold star! #bbuklive pic.twitter.com/BRaEDZXlVe

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSmm8ZuCIAAb68N.jpg

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I really don't see the issue, we are on this planet for a short while is some feel they would be happy living as a different gender let them....

Maybe ensuring they are employed is a gauge to measure if there isn't another underlying mental health issue that could be contributing to their gender confusion?

Maybe. I'm not sure I like the idea of quietly excluding the unemployed from acceptance for surgery.

[erinp5]

Hot or not and poor Lauren is last
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPxeI...layer_embedded

Youtube video

[Pincho Paxton]

Poor Lauren, and poor Courtney by the look on her face.

[DanaC]

Oh....oh that was uncomfortable viewing.

Classic Charlotte though lol.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Hot or not and poor Lauren is last
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPxeI...layer_embedded

Youtube video

...aww poor Lauren, I hate it when BB do that sort of thing, and she does pay a lot of attention to her styling...

[Pincho Paxton]

Actually, thinking about it, that's not good for Lauren's psychological state of mind. After a sex change she wanted to be not just a woman, but a sensual, sexy woman. This could actually harm her for a long time.

[CaudleHalbard]

That was hilarious!

Quite a few gutted celebs - and gleeful ones too.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Actually, thinking about it, that's not good for Lauren's psychological state of mind. After a sex change she wanted to be not just a woman, but a sensual, sexy woman. This could actually harm her for a long time.

Lauren needs a wake up call. She went into the house claiming she would bring "glamour" into it.

Sorry Lauren, it takes more than clothes to be glamorous. When Carol, Vicky and even Ron (!) are considered 'hotter', then you need to realise this.

[CaudleHalbard]

These are the results, in order of hottest:

Spoiler:

Charlotte
Mario
Abz
Louie
Carol
Dustin
Sophie
Courtney
Ron
Vicky
Bruce
Danielle
Lauren

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Lauren needs a wake up call. She went into the house claiming she would bring "glamour" into it.

Sorry Lauren, it takes more than clothes to be glamorous. When Carol, Vicky and even Ron (!) are considered 'hotter', then you need to realise this.

She's not normal in the regards of waking up. She has lived an entire life of fantasy, and always escaped from her problems...

She's a picked on boy, she leaves school.. escapes.

She goes to Manchester, can't take it... leaves Manchester, goes home... escapes.

She's in a body that she doesn't like... she changes her body... escapes.

The genius in her always finds an answer to escape...but...

She's picked as the least attractive woman in a line up... escapes...

How does she escape?

1/ After leaving Big Bother lots of plastic surgery.

And if the plastic surgery doesn't help.. she escapes...

2/ Suicide.

So this line up is a bad path for her. And I am the real genius, not the fake genius.

[CaudleHalbard]

I am sure the other housemates will be all over Lauren consoling her, while secretly feeling gleeful that every single one of them is considered hotter!

[fingers]

That is not something that she will handle well. After all she considers herself to be the most intelligent and beautiful creature ever to have inhabited this Earth!