[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by mizzy25

I don't know whey people think shes a Geordie, she certainly doesn't sound like one she sounds like a mackem. On 1st impressions I didn't like hert (I don't watch Geordie shore) then she grew on me a bit, then the whole pretending to be so drunk she wets the bed has put me right off her again. Oh and I am a proper Geordie from Newcastle Upon Tyne.

forgive my ignorance but what is Mackem?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

In the former case those words are being used about housemates, they are not nice things to say admittedly but housemates are fair game to be insulted, fans of them are not however

To be honest I'd look to moderating housemate insults as well next season. Free speech is a wonderful concept in theory but when you extend it to the sort of nameless, faceless lunatics who take over this place during on season it can be a real turn off to everybody else.

If someone can construct a well worded, witty spiel against a housemate they don't like then all the more power to them but the forum is full of just some absolutely horrendous threads by a parade of generic thirty five post douche bags who've made it their sole mission to type a barrage of uncreative, visually ugly threads and posts usually centered around one or two people who they don't like time and time again. JIM IS A SLAG LOOK AT HIM EVERYONE LOOK AT HOW HE POOED IN THE SINK ON DAY 15 DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM? THEN YOU'RE WHATS WRONG WITH BRITAIN HAHAHA.

Something like that. Only stripped of grammar. Something I couldn't bring myself to enact even in mock quotation.

It's got nothing to do with their right to free speech and everything to do with the fact that they are just crap posters who should be swept under the rug for that reason alone. Rhyming 'shore' with '*****' puts you neatly in that bin. Most forums do it. Here you actually have to explicitly break rules to get banned but you can drool on your kneecaps all you want in between.

Put me right off the place it has. Bit of quality control wouldn't go amiss. Bit of a left of field rant I know. Bring it up in the towers or something. Sieg Heil and peace out.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Young girls ARE impressionable though.. And they do watch BB.. They might not aspire to be exactly like her, but they obviously find her behaviour acceptable. Promiscuity becoming more acceptable is to blame for the rise in the number teenage pregnancies and STDs in teenagers

The girls young enough to be impressionable shouldn't be watching.

If they do watch, that's not people like Charlotte's fault, or even BB's fault but their parent's fault.

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally Posted by Stu

To be honest I'd look to moderating housemate insults as well next season. Free speech is a wonderful concept in theory but when you extend it to the sort of nameless, faceless lunatics who take over this place during on season it can be a real turn off to everybody else.

If someone can construct a well worded, witty spiel against a housemate they don't like then all the more power to them but the forum is full of just some absolutely horrendous threads by a parade of generic thirty five post douche bags who've made it their sole mission to type a barrage of uncreative, visually ugly threads and posts usually centered around one or two people who they don't like time and time again. JIM IS A SLAG LOOK AT HIM EVERYONE LOOK AT HOW HE POOED IN THE SINK ON DAY 15 DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM? THEN YOU'RE WHATS WRONG WITH BRITAIN HAHAHA.

Something like that. Only stripped of grammar. Something I couldn't bring myself to enact even in mock quotation.

It's got nothing to do with their right to free speech and everything to do with the fact that they are just crap posters who should be swept under the rug for that reason alone. Rhyming 'shore' with '*****' puts you neatly in that bin. Most forums do it. Here you actually have to explicitly break rules to get banned but you can drool on your kneecaps all you want in between.

Put me right off the place it has. Bit of quality control wouldn't go amiss. Bit of a left of field rant I know. Bring it up in the towers or something. Sieg Heil and peace out.

This is what the rule is for

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

forgive my ignorance but what is Mackem?

From Sunderland, not Newcastle.

Theres always a big hoohah about names..Mackems being called Geordies, Geordies being called Mackems, Sand Dancers are classed as Geordies too to those who arent from around here too...

BAsically every place has their own nickname, but those who arent from the north east class them all as geordies

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Stu

To be honest I'd look to moderating housemate insults as well next season. Free speech is a wonderful concept in theory but when you extend it to the sort of nameless, faceless lunatics who take over this place during on season it can be a real turn off to everybody else.

If someone can construct a well worded, witty spiel against a housemate they don't like then all the more power to them but the forum is full of just some absolutely horrendous threads by a parade of generic thirty five post douche bags who've made it their sole mission to type a barrage of uncreative, visually ugly threads and posts usually centered around one or two people who they don't like time and time again. JIM IS A SLAG LOOK AT HIM EVERYONE LOOK AT HOW HE POOED IN THE SINK ON DAY 15 DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM? THEN YOU'RE WHATS WRONG WITH BRITAIN HAHAHA.

Something like that. Only stripped of grammar. Something I couldn't bring myself to enact even in mock quotation.

It's got nothing to do with their right to free speech and everything to do with the fact that they are just crap posters who should be swept under the rug for that reason alone. Rhyming 'shore' with '*****' puts you neatly in that bin. Most forums do it. Here you actually have to explicitly break rules to get banned but you can drool on your kneecaps all you want in between.

Put me right off the place it has. Bit of quality control wouldn't go amiss. Bit of a left of field rant I know. Bring it up in the towers or something. Sieg Heil and peace out.

I would agree with this tbh. I'm hoping the rules get revised for next season as this time round has been awful. I dont see the value in housemate nicknames and such, or one liner insults in every thread. Or the pathetic spam threads we get so often that say not much at all. This year we even had a poster who was hellbent on creating threads everytime a certain housemate moved, but the title would just be an insult, and there was nothing but a . in the OP. Then when they ended up banned for spam, obviously it was put down to bias

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

forgive my ignorance but what is Mackem?

Someone from Sunderland Tozzie.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

From Sunderland, not Newcastle.

Theres always a big hoohah about names..Mackems being called Geordies, Geordies being called Mackems, Sand Dancers are classed as Geordies too to those who arent from around here too...

BAsically every place has their own nickname, but those who arent from the north east class them all as geordies

Yeah, even us Smoggies are calls Geordies down South

[Heaven = Winner]

Charlotte seems like a nice lass and all, but I kinda hope she doesn't win. She looks like she's being booked as the obvious winner of the batch, and honestly, there's already been a ton of vulgar housemates win BB (Josie, Sam, etc.)

[Kazanne]

I've never watched Geordie Shore and from what I've seen of Charlotte,I'm glad I havent,I see nothing exciting about her at all,don't understand the hype tbh.

[alex_front2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Club-2013.html

Charlotte is the next in the production line of personification of modern working class youth culture defiance to follow Jade Goody (rip) and Gazza. Pissed, promiscuous, vomiting, vacuous, lewd and crude but crucially too busy throwing up to question the status quo or wonder why no one from working class Gateshead is being tipped as a future leader. But hey, who needs a profile in the Guardian* when you can live the Geordie Shore lifestyle.

Rather than questioning why all potential Prime Ministers are production line Eton/ St Paul's/ Wycombe Abbey clones and striving to change this, Charlotte is the result of upper and middle class TV executives peddling unchallenging insipid lowest common denominator working class as some sort of paragon of virtue.

"Our Charlotte" is hailed as great working class heroine coz she pisses her pants when " mortal " unlike those posh youths who quietly spend their time getting internships at blue chip corporations or start up tech companies developing aps, or getting work experience at Westminster.

Charlotte is the opiate of the masses to pi $$ ed to challenge the establishment.

* in one of those "6 up and coming people" to look out for articles.

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Sorry Terry Christian

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Stu

To be honest I'd look to moderating housemate insults as well next season. Free speech is a wonderful concept in theory but when you extend it to the sort of nameless, faceless lunatics who take over this place during on season it can be a real turn off to everybody else.

If someone can construct a well worded, witty spiel against a housemate they don't like then all the more power to them but the forum is full of just some absolutely horrendous threads by a parade of generic thirty five post douche bags who've made it their sole mission to type a barrage of uncreative, visually ugly threads and posts usually centered around one or two people who they don't like time and time again. JIM IS A SLAG LOOK AT HIM EVERYONE LOOK AT HOW HE POOED IN THE SINK ON DAY 15 DO YOU AGREE WITH HIM? THEN YOU'RE WHATS WRONG WITH BRITAIN HAHAHA.

Something like that. Only stripped of grammar. Something I couldn't bring myself to enact even in mock quotation.

It's got nothing to do with their right to free speech and everything to do with the fact that they are just crap posters who should be swept under the rug for that reason alone. Rhyming 'shore' with '*****' puts you neatly in that bin. Most forums do it. Here you actually have to explicitly break rules to get banned but you can drool on your kneecaps all you want in between.

Put me right off the place it has. Bit of quality control wouldn't go amiss. Bit of a left of field rant I know. Bring it up in the towers or something. Sieg Heil and peace out.

..I agree with Stu, the constant attacking of housemates on a very personal level, rather than commenting on behaviour in the house and ridiculous and offensive thread titles has started to spoil people having discussions/debates about housemates as it's just who can insult them more..I know it's meant to be more of a 'free for all' where housemates are concerned but it's got really stupid and inevitably ends with members insulting other members for their opinions..and then they're punished when really these 'hate' threads are encouraging it all...

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Im a fan of geordie shore, and ill point out Charlotte is the most popular person in GS and the reason most people watch it.

she is in no way a *****, how can u brand someone thing when u don't event know them? she is a human being ffs.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBUKAUSFAN

Im a fan of geordie shore, and ill point out Charlotte is the most popular person in GS and the reason most people watch it.

she is in no way a *****, how can u brand someone thing when u don't event know them? she is a human being ffs.

..I have to admit that I'd never watched Geordie Shore and had a very preconceived opinion of Charlotte before she went into the house just by things I'd read..I was certain I wouldn't like her and am very surprised that I actually do...calling her a '*****' or similar is totally unnecessary..the language/terminology she uses makes me often cringe but if you see beyond that she seems like a nice girl and that to me is more relevant...and I don't think it's any different to when people liked Ron because they could see beyond his racist comments to the positives he was as well....

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DanaC

That could be countered though with good and consistent sex education in schools. At the moment you don't have to specialise in that area to teach it and schools choose whether or not to deliver it at all. Consequently, in the schools that do teach it, many of them are relying on non-specialists to deliver it. Games teachers, geography teachers etc.

I disagree - it could be countered with good, consistent, open, honest and unembarrassed sex education AT HOME. I.e., parents not copping out and expecting "the system" (which is deeply flawed) to teach their children everything, and who go scarlett at the mere thought of mentioning a peeners or bergina to their children.

Stop blaming schools, stop blaming the media, influences and "role models". The truth is, teenagers and young adults would have a more responsible attitude towards sex if it was demystified and openly discussable at home, and that is what would lead to healthy attitudes and fewer unprotected mistakes that lead to pregnancies or STIs. Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't the problem. The problem is that it's become something so hidden and shameful that our young people don't have the confidence to do it without being drunk - and that's when poor judgement (having sex with random people) and mistakes (lack of / improperly used protection) occur.

Britain is still sexually repressed. Cultures with a more honest, open and less scathing attitudes towards sexuality have fewer teen pregnances and less sexually transmitted infection. This is just fact.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I have to admit that I'd never watched Geordie Shore and had a very preconceived opinion of Charlotte before she went into the house just by things I'd read..I was certain I wouldn't like her and am very surprised that I actually do...calling her a '*****' or similar is totally unnecessary..the language/terminology she uses makes me often cringe but if you see beyond that she seems like a nice girl and that to me is more relevant...and I don't think it's any different to when people liked Ron because they could see beyond his racist comments to the positives he was as well....

People are just shallow, they let surface things like the way she speaks or her sense of humour become more important than who she actually is as a person - e.g. last night's HL show when she was the ONLY housemate who followed Lauren because she wanted to make sure she didn't feel alone or ganged up on, while the rest cackled in the garden...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

People are just shallow, they let surface things like the way she speaks or her sense of humour become more important than who she actually is as a person - e.g. last night's HL show when she was the ONLY housemate who followed Lauren because she wanted to make sure she didn't feel alone or ganged up on, while the rest cackled in the garden...

..I also liked the way she recognised how isolated Courtney was becoming and how stifled she was feeling because she's befriended Lauren, who has become extremely attached to her..and it is difficult for Courtney because she's not the type of person to want to hurt someone's feeling's or 'reject' them..I think Charlotte recognised that and rather than just criticise Lauren, she voiced her concerns to BB...

[cfromhx02]

Because there are a lot of people who don't use many brain cells and because there is the crowd who uses next to none of course.There's a lot more uneducated chavs around than you think.They spout opinions around like verbal diarrhea usually copying each other as they are too lazy to read up on things on the internet so of course the brainless chavs were always going to have someone who's proud of pissi*g and *****ing as their favourite.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Because there are a lot of people who don't use many brain cells and because there is the crowd who uses next to none of course.There's a lot more uneducated chavs around than you think.They spout opinions around like verbal diarrhea usually copying each other as they are too lazy to read up on things on the internet so of course the brainless chavs were always going to have someone who's proud of pissi*g and *****ing as their favourite.

..just slightly off topic..I've noticed that you're transgender and I know that's obviously been discussed in CBB atm with Lauren...I can see that it's been extremely difficult for you in many ways I would imagine..and you're right, there is so much that people in general don't understand..you could make a thread about it to discuss it in the main forum in serious debates section and maybe help people to understand more..?...obviously if it's something you feel you want to do though....

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I disagree - it could be countered with good, consistent, open, honest and unembarrassed sex education AT HOME. I.e., parents not copping out and expecting "the system" (which is deeply flawed) to teach their children everything, and who go scarlett at the mere thought of mentioning a peeners or bergina to their children.

Stop blaming schools, stop blaming the media, influences and "role models". The truth is, teenagers and young adults would have a more responsible attitude towards sex if it was demystified and openly discussable at home, and that is what would lead to healthy attitudes and fewer unprotected mistakes that lead to pregnancies or STIs. Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't the problem. The problem is that it's become something so hidden and shameful that our young people don't have the confidence to do it without being drunk - and that's when poor judgement (having sex with random people) and mistakes (lack of / improperly used protection) occur.

Britain is still sexually repressed. Cultures with a more honest, open and less scathing attitudes towards sexuality have fewer teen pregnances and less sexually transmitted infection. This is just fact.

I do agree that sex isn't the problem.. Our booze culture is. I don't think any other European country has the alcohol problems we have.

[Bojangles]

The girl has been acting or rather overacting since she stepped into the house.We can see through her bad performances.Maybe she should get some acting lessons when she gets out.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Someone from Sunderland Tozzie.

Cheers Simps & Vicky x

[mr rochester]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I also liked the way she recognised how isolated Courtney was becoming and how stifled she was feeling because she's befriended Lauren, who has become extremely attached to her..and it is difficult for Courtney because she's not the type of person to want to hurt someone's feeling's or 'reject' them..I think Charlotte recognised that and rather than just criticise Lauren, she voiced her concerns to BB...

This is absolutely correct - it was Charlotte who noticed and flagged up Courtney's predicament. This definitely shows some level of maturity and the ability to show more than self-awareness. There have been a few little flashes of similar depth from Charlotte. I sense she might have staged the 'drunk' scene in order to fall out of bed in a comical way afterwards. I think she might have heard Carol say she had not had much to drink and that she was acting so she wet the bed to make it look like she had been drunk...

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I disagree - it could be countered with good, consistent, open, honest and unembarrassed sex education AT HOME. I.e., parents not copping out and expecting "the system" (which is deeply flawed) to teach their children everything, and who go scarlett at the mere thought of mentioning a peeners or bergina to their children.

Stop blaming schools, stop blaming the media, influences and "role models". The truth is, teenagers and young adults would have a more responsible attitude towards sex if it was demystified and openly discussable at home, and that is what would lead to healthy attitudes and fewer unprotected mistakes that lead to pregnancies or STIs. Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't the problem. The problem is that it's become something so hidden and shameful that our young people don't have the confidence to do it without being drunk - and that's when poor judgement (having sex with random people) and mistakes (lack of / improperly used protection) occur.

Britain is still sexually repressed. Cultures with a more honest, open and less scathing attitudes towards sexuality have fewer teen pregnances and less sexually transmitted infection. This is just fact.

I agree. But: unless you have some kind of magic wand to wave which will stop individual parents being embarrassed / morally disinclined to talk about sex with their teenage children then the problem will persist at a societal level.

The government cannot legislate those family relationships. It can legislate what is taught in school. Studies show that in places with well designed and well taught sex education these problems lessen considerably. That cohort of youngsters are then more likely to become the parents who will teach the next generation about sex and relationships in a less cackhanded way.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by mr rochester

This is absolutely correct - it was Charlotte who noticed and flagged up Courtney's predicament. This definitely shows some level of maturity and the ability to show more than self-awareness. There have been a few little flashes of similar depth from Charlotte. I sense she might have staged the 'drunk' scene in order to fall out of bed in a comical way afterwards. I think she might have heard Carol say she had not had much to drink and that she was acting so she wet the bed to make it look like she had been drunk...

..I haven't really seen Charlotte enough to know whether some of the things have been 'staged' or exaggerated, that's possible..but I also think she's not the only person to do that, I think Louie's actions much of the time are played to his celebrity persona. but that slipped a bit when he cried which showed a vulnerability..maybe Carol 'stages' some of her remarks as well in that she has a hard image on Loose Woman so maybe she's 'playing the bitch' because she knows that's what her fans like...if that's true then she hasn't shown another side yet so it's hard to see beyond that...

..most of the HMs in CBB are self-centred and me me me and don't really show much concern for others other than to criticise/bitch about their actions which is why it was so refreshing to see Charlotte show that concern for someone else or even to have observed it in the first place because it shows she's aware of other's feelings around her....