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Jemal · 05-01-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..if she had modifies her behaviour, then she would be called 'false' and she was drunk and uninhibited anyway..and as much as I've always liked Lionel, it's ok for him to accept the money etc to go into CBB but then if he's going to do that then he has to accept what that means and there is often 'controversial' behaviour...I don't think that respect is anything to do with age either..why should she respect him any more than she would any of the other housemates, she doesn't know him at all..anyway, it's all providing what BB aim for because that's why they put such mixed age range housemates in....

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Ammi · 05-01-2014, 01:00 PM

..it's not a conversation topic that I would necessarily want to be part of and if someone were to come into my home and get drunk and have a similar discussion, then maybe I would hope to get an apology from that person when sober because it was my home and my hospitality etc...but in the BB house, everyone has equal 'respect', no one more so than another person because of age, career or anything else and no rules were broken, so she didn't disrespect anyone...I know she'll get criticism and maybe be evicted by the public because of this but it doesn't make her anything awful or deserving of some of the things people will say because she does seem like a nice person...but that's BB and the nature of it, I guess she also has to understand that as well as Lionel does....

Lee. · 05-01-2014, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..it's not a conversation topic that I would necessarily want to be part of and if someone were to come into my home and get drunk and have a similar discussion, then maybe I would hope to get an apology from that person when sober because it was my home and my hospitality etc...but in the BB house, everyone has equal 'respect', no one more so than another person because of age, career or anything else and no rules were broken, so she didn't disrespect anyone...I know she'll get criticism and maybe be evicted by the public because of this but it doesn't make her anything awful or deserving of some of the things people will say because she does seem like a nice person...but that's BB and the nature of it, I guess she also has to understand that as well as Lionel does....

I disagree Ammi.. I think, regardless of the situation or location, consideration should be given towards others.
I interact daily with people of all ages and act accordingly towards them all.. I act differently with say my best friend than I do with some if the older gentlemen that come into the pub at night. It's not being fake or repressed, it's called having a bit if sensitivity towards others feelings.

newsbb · 05-01-2014, 07:24 AM

hes an absolute bore, thats why old people should be allowed!

mizzy25 · 05-01-2014, 09:40 AM

I do think she was pissed but not as pissed as she was making out she was, the comments about the finger banging were uncalled for regardless whether she or say dappy said them, to be honest I couldn't imagine any of the lads actually saying this, infact if they did there would prob b a public outcry. I was always brought up to respect my elders so I do think it was definitely uncalled for in front of Lionel nd Im not surprised he reacted the way he did. Ollie and Dappy weren't quite sure what to do/say either and as for poor Sam. Regarding lee and the ****ing in the bath comment, that was slighyly different, there was only 2 of them there, him and casey and he sort of reminded me of a naughty little brother it wasn't that bad what he said, I don't think he would say things like that in a group of people. Now we will just wait for Jim to say something like that and watch the public outcry. lol

Kazanne · 05-01-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mizzy25

I do think she was pissed but not as pissed as she was making out she was, the comments about the finger banging were uncalled for regardless whether she or say dappy said them, to be honest I couldn't imagine any of the lads actually saying this, infact if they did there would prob b a public outcry. I was always brought up to respect my elders so I do think it was definitely uncalled for in front of Lionel nd Im not surprised he reacted the way he did. Ollie and Dappy weren't quite sure what to do/say either and as for poor Sam. Regarding lee and the ****ing in the bath comment, that was slighyly different, there was only 2 of them there, him and casey and he sort of reminded me of a naughty little brother it wasn't that bad what he said, I don't think he would say things like that in a group of people. Now we will just wait for Jim to say something like that and watch the public outcry. lol

Good point Mizzy,can you imagine if he or Lionel had said that they love fingering someones anus,just because Jasmine is deemed pretty and fit it seems to be a red light to say and do anything .Double standards or what,lol

joeysteele · 05-01-2014, 10:21 AM

Personally,I myself would curb lots of things things I said when in the company of people much older than myself and especially after only being in their company for a few hours too.That is not only respect in some form but the right and decent way to act in company no matter the age make up of those present.

Also, as I said somewhere else, she chose to guide conversation to that topic.
Lionel to be fair, wasn't in the position where he could just get up and leave the company while being handcuffed to someone much younger too.
He needed to get Ollie to agree to move as well.

She allowed herself to get drunk and no one else did, even Sam was rather unhappy at her antics too when rolling all over the place.
First impressions count for a lot and for me Jasmine has made a pretty bad first impression after a very short time in the house.

She won't likely be the only one to go overboard in there after having too much to drink as the series goes on but to do so that early was,I would say anyway, uncalled for and out of order as was this topic she 'forced' on the others in her company at the time.

Patricia4 · 05-01-2014, 10:29 AM

Jasmine I don't care for and Lionel had to wait while Ollie finished is fag because he couldn't move away Im sure he wouldn't of been there if it wasn't for Ollie.

joeysteele · 05-01-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Patricia4

Jasmine I don't care for and Lionel had to wait while Ollie finished is fag because he couldn't move away Im sure he wouldn't of been there if it wasn't for Ollie.

Exactly, I agree completely and that is something she should have taken into account too,drunk or otherwise.
There is too much of this someone was drunk to excuse bad behaviour.
Simple answer, don't get drunk, no one else did really.

anne666 · 05-01-2014, 11:08 AM

The silly woman was too drunk to know which planet she was on. Don't get drunk? I agree but she was drunk and behaving like an arse.....Simple as that for me. I felt sorry for Sam handcuffed to her. That certainly wasn't safe. Are broken bones BB's latest idea of fun.

Cherie · 05-01-2014, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by anne666

The silly woman was too drunk to know which planet she was on. Don't get drunk? I agree but she was drunk and behaving like an arse.....Simple as that for me. I felt sorry for Sam handcuffed to her. That certainly wasn't safe. Are broken bones BB's latest idea of fun.

That was my take on it as well.

sampvt · 05-01-2014, 02:44 PM

It goes without saying that we should temper or mediate our language and the content of our convo when in the company of the young and the old. My kids probably swear outdoors but if they did it in my company they would get a thick ear. retrospectively I shield my grandson from verbal profanities and content that I feel he shouldn't hear.

Our younger generation seem to think its cool to offer profanities and lurid comments as part of every day life but as in the case of Lionel, she should have taken his age into consideration no mater how drunk she was. If you cant keep a civil tongue when you are drunk, maybe you shouldn't drink. We all know Bb has a habit of offering such poo pahs and Lionel should be well tuned to these indiscression but that still doesn't mean he needs to sit there and be embarrassed at someone else's behest.

Each side was a little wrong but in essence, drink coupled with bb coupled with desperados wanting to make a name for themselves is a recipe for conflict so its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.