[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..but you are talking about actual cases of bullying though, which of course happens and is very serious but there are also often 'clashes of personality' and other circumstances of people not getting on which are not bullying...it's because bullying is so serious that we can't assume that everything is or things are that if they're not....

And what is happening to Jim is an actual case of bullying. I suggested that you read the Wikipedia entry. Here's an extract:

"One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power. Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment... and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets. Justifications and rationalizations for such behavior sometimes include differences of class, race, religion, gender, sexuality, appearance, behavior, strength, size or ability. If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing.... Bullying ranges from simple one-on-one bullying to more complex bullying in which the bully may have one or more "lieutenants" who may seem to be willing to assist the primary bully in his or her bullying activities."

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Zee

The people who are openly laughing at the idea of Jim possibly being bullied are not being objective about this because they hate Jim so much. For the umpteenth time: I think Jim is a horrible man. But whether or not someone is a victim of bullying doesn't hinge on whether or not you like them as a person. Adults can be bullied. Anyone can be bullied. It doesn't matter what your age, post code, gender or personality is, anyone can be bullied by anyone for any reason. There is a group of people who are making a point of excluding one individual, Jim. And if you don't think that proves anything, then why are they doing it to Liz too? Because they're acting in a mob manner..

[Slevin]

i dont hate anyone. that a lil too far for me lol.

[Slevin]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiit some of em were like wheres Jim when the spread was out. i would of liked him to sit down and enjoy the food instead of coming out for 10-20 seconds instead of moaning and going in the bedroom acting like he was gonna sleep.

[Patricia4]

Zee love your posts you are spot on.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

Zee love your posts you are spot on.

They are Patricia4, he near always makes me think about things too. Really good and fair posts.

[Slevin]

wiki sometimes cant be taken serious since anyone can go in there and change something. reason why it would be stupid for the most part for students to use that as a reference.

[Seraphim]

There are studies and books available, and many different articles online for anyone who is interested.

I obviously have a particular knowledge of this area, having worked with the victims of bullying for years - in mainstream education, special educational units or establishments and a psychiatric hospital.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

There are studies and books available, and many different articles online for anyone who is interested.

I obviously have a particular knowledge of this area, having worked with the victims of bullying for years - in mainstream education, special educational units or establishments and a psychiatric hospital.

..I bow to your personal experiences with bullying because it's a very serious thing, I only work in a primary school so physical bullying doesn't play such a big part, it's more emotional bullying and in the experiences I have had, only a relative few occasions have been actual bullying...mostly it's clashes of personality and both sides are at fault...

[Slevin]

i was bullied in 3rd grade cause i was the new kid. on the first day when it was the end of the school day i grabbed that bitch ass mo fo buy the shirt slammed him against the locker and told him not to mess with me again and that was that. just saying.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Slevin

i was bullied in 3rd grade cause i was the new kid. on the first day when it was the end of the school day i grabbed that bitch ass mo fo buy the shirt slammed him against the locker and told him not to mess with me again and that was that. just saying.

..you badass wild child.....that was the way to do it, then...if only it was that simple for everyone....but I'm glad that it didn't carry with you...

[Slevin]

the funny thing is i was alright with the dude after that. he was just being a dick trying to be hard ass for whatever reason.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Slevin

the funny thing is i was alright with the dude after that. he was just being a dick trying to be hard ass for whatever reason.

...yeah, maybe he thought that it was the thing to do to the 'new kid', I don't know really and it's hard to say whether it would have continued but I'm glad for you that it didn't, it's not something that anyone should have to experience...

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, maybe he thought that it was the thing to do to the 'new kid', I don't know really and it's hard to say whether it would have continued but I'm glad for you that it didn't, it's not something that anyone should have to experience...

Bullying can and does happen in primary schools, and even in nurseries, although at the nursery level it is pretty unsophisticated.

I was bullied in primary school by someone two years below me who was physically heavier than I was, even though I was taller. For no reason at all, she started following me around every interval, pushing me around, hitting me, making nasty comments and getting her friends to gang up on me. Eventually, one day, when she had been pinching and hitting me, I pushed her away. She played the victim card and ran howling to her teacher: I got lectured and threatened in front of her class, and it was reported back to my parents, who lectured and threatened me more. I wasn't given a chance to explain or defend myself.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Bullying can and does happen in primary schools, and even in nurseries, although at the nursery level it is pretty unsophisticated.

I was bullied in primary school by someone two years below me who was physically heavier than I was, even though I was taller. For no reason at all, she started following me around every interval, pushing me around, hitting me, making nasty comments and getting her friends to gang up on me. Eventually, one day, when she had been pinching and hitting me, I pushed her away. She played the victim card and ran howling to her teacher: I got lectured and threatened in front of her class, and it was reported back to my parents, who lectured and threatened me more. I wasn't given a chance to explain or defend myself.

..I'm not saying that bullying doesn't happen in primary schools just that not everything is bullying and can quite often be clashes of characters..in the case of Jim in the BB house, I don't see anything that would be bullying...obviously we are seeing things differently, if you do...anyway, I'm going to bow out of this thread because I'm just really repeating the same thing...and I was only really giving my opinion on comments about Jim being 'bullied', which imo, he isn't...

[Slevin]

its Jim...



MAN!

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He's a wily old git, take what he did tonight to casey for instance... that was horrid and she was gutted, he humiliated her and he and lee were laughing like drains about it with a total disregard for her feelings.
Casey really likes him too, so he wasn't retaliating there was he? just being a rude nasty old drunk.
The Paula Thompson interview with him in the Daily Echo proves he only thinks of women as T&A.

He was telling her straight that Lee isn't seriously interested in her. Yeah - she was gutted.. but people have already told her less bluntly to back off Lee and she didn't want to hear it.. It was time someone put her straight. If she takes it on board, it'll save her a lot of heartache later on, because we know exactly what will happen the moment Lee gets her alone outside of the BB house. Jim was not laughing like a drain. He was serious and hopefully she'll think about what he said and act accordingly.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

He was telling her straight that Lee isn't seriously interested in her. Yeah - she was gutted.. but people have already told her less bluntly to back off Lee and she didn't want to hear it.. It was time someone put her straight. If she takes it on board, it'll save her a lot of heartache later on, because we know exactly what will happen the moment Lee gets her alone outside of the BB house. Jim was not laughing like a drain. He was serious and hopefully she'll think about what he said and act accordingly.

How does he know... what's he the all seeing eye? house oracle?