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Kizzy · 28-06-2014, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Why is everything always about you, Kizzy? Get over yourself. I have no issue with Joey or him voting you; it's when people vote the same 3/4 friends over and over again in a sheer bid of desperation of trying to win.

Well you only started crowing when joey made his noms and he has voted me twice..
Maybe he likes my gifs?

Shaun · 27-06-2014, 11:54 PM

From my perspective, it's boring to run. It's disappointing seeing everything turn out the same every week. And in past experience I've been privy to evidence of many of these people voting tactically and encouraging people to vote in a certain way. The poll of last series' final proves that.

Maybe it's just because I'm used to running it and therefore am picking up on trends and recurring habits but I do feel that members will routinely vote a group of friends they absolutely already had prior to the series started and new posters rarely get a look in.

So yeah, I will be establishing a "vote 3 new people" rule from next week... obviously those who have a problem with this can either just:

a) vote 3 people one week, and another 3 the next, and just flip between these because they're sad
b) take it up with a therapist or something

I mean, there are hundreds of BB posters, I'm not asking miracles. Just widen the net and give other people a chance.

Kizzy · 28-06-2014, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

From my perspective, it's boring to run. It's disappointing seeing everything turn out the same every week. And in past experience I've been privy to evidence of many of these people voting tactically and encouraging people to vote in a certain way. The poll of last series' final proves that.

Maybe it's just because I'm used to running it and therefore am picking up on trends and recurring habits but I do feel that members will routinely vote a group of friends they absolutely already had prior to the series started and new posters rarely get a look in.

So yeah, I will be establishing a "vote 3 new people" rule from next week... obviously those who have a problem with this can either just:

a) vote 3 people one week, and another 3 the next, and just flip between these because they're sad
b) take it up with a therapist or something

I mean, there are hundreds of BB posters, I'm not asking miracles. Just widen the net and give other people a chance.

Oh blah blah new posters... since when was this about new posters?.. come on

Nobody's voting for you and you're peeved.

chuff me dizzy · 28-06-2014, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh blah blah new posters... since when was this about new posters?.. come on

Nobody's voting for you and you're peeved.

joeysteele · 28-06-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

From my perspective, it's boring to run. It's disappointing seeing everything turn out the same every week. And in past experience I've been privy to evidence of many of these people voting tactically and encouraging people to vote in a certain way. The poll of last series' final proves that.

Maybe it's just because I'm used to running it and therefore am picking up on trends and recurring habits but I do feel that members will routinely vote a group of friends they absolutely already had prior to the series started and new posters rarely get a look in.

So yeah, I will be establishing a "vote 3 new people" rule from next week... obviously those who have a problem with this can either just:

a) vote 3 people one week, and another 3 the next, and just flip between these because they're sad
b) take it up with a therapist or something

I mean, there are hundreds of BB posters, I'm not asking miracles. Just widen the net and give other people a chance.

With full respect that is a bit off,sad and needing a therapist.
People vote to try to get people through, how can rules and goalposts be moved midway through an event.
Personally, I think you are wrong to do that but it is your game and your right I guess but I think that will be to the detriment of the event and lead to less taking part.

Shaun · 28-06-2014, 12:02 AM

I'm not going to rise to the bait, Kizzy.

Kizzy · 28-06-2014, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

I'm not going to rise to the bait, Kizzy.

I'm not baiting shaun, This 'fun thread' tibb nominations just got more rules and regulations that the European court of human rights all of a sudden.

Lola844 · 29-06-2014, 09:50 AM

Hayden - Great posts, Do or die fan

Benjamin - Started the best thread ever, get ash out XOXO

Shaun - I feel is fair in all the post, and is willing to hear others out.

Shaun · 28-06-2014, 12:04 AM

Because people shouldn't be voting to "get people through" at all, that's just voting tactically

it should just be a fair representation of that week's worth of forum activity.

joeysteele · 28-06-2014, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Because people shouldn't be voting to "get people through" at all, that's just voting tactically

it should just be a fair representation of that week's worth of forum activity.

We are asked to vote to get people to win weeks who have made full and good contributions to the forum over recent week or weeks.

What does anyone go through for then if it's not to get people through.
Now I really am confused even more,so we don't vote to get people through who we think have been the best contributors to the forum.

What with the fullest respect is the point of voting then at all.

Shaun · 28-06-2014, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

We are asked to vote to get people to win weeks who have made full and good contributions to the forum over recent week or weeks.

What does anyone go through for then if it's not to get people through.
Now I really am confused even more,so we don't vote to get people through who we think have been the best contributors to the forum.

What with the fullest respect is the point of voting then at all.

Well that's the thing, you're not voting to make sure people win, you're supposed to be voting to give people recognition on the forum. It's just a bit... repetitive? And also - and I know you're not responsible for this Joey - given this competition's history with people being asked to vote for one member, it feels like there're campaigns to get members through rather than this competition just flowing by naturally and whatever happens, happens.

It's gotten to the stage where it all feels a bit forced and tactical.

joeysteele · 28-06-2014, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Well that's the thing, you're not voting to make sure people win, you're supposed to be voting to give people recognition on the forum. It's just a bit... repetitive? And also - and I know you're not responsible for this Joey - given this competition's history with people being asked to vote for one member, it feels like there're campaigns to get members through rather than this competition just flowing by naturally and whatever happens, happens.

It's gotten to the stage where it all feels a bit forced and tactical.

I don't think I have yet seen a set of votes, and there haven't been that many sets of votes this time round, where the people voted for haven't made a good and full contribution to the forum overall.

I see no problem with it as it was going.

I took issue because the 'friends' comments and 'changing one nom a week' comment was made immediately after my latest set of noms.
I have rarely voted for Jords in this event, I have this time round for instance.

You said it right, have it flowing naturally and what happens, happens.
Trying to manipulate and dictate how votes should be made by installing new rules now when it is up and running will far from have it flowing naturally,in fact it will do the opposite in my view.

It is however your game, so when old rules, or proposed new ones from next week are in place, it is then for members themselves to decide for themselves after that if it is worth them bothering to vote at all, if they are not then able to vote how and for who they would wish to.

Jack_ · 28-06-2014, 12:22 AM

I guess the voting people through thing is tactical yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but what about the argument someone put forward that it may just be the case that the same one or two (I suppose three is pushing it) people were the best contributors two weeks in a row? I know some people will exploit it and just vote for their friends but what about the people who genuinely think they were the best posters of the week again?

Jack_ · 28-06-2014, 12:23 AM

Also why are people trying to make out this reasonable discussion of an issue has some kind of cynical undertone

just stop

Shaun · 28-06-2014, 12:26 AM

Well I guess, but I think there are clearly more than just 2 or 3 members deserving of a nomination in a week

Like in that instance, I would just say "open your eyes", really. I actually toss around 10-15 names in a week... I tend to give BB15's forum a quick glance-over to see who stands out, and if there're any notable TiBB events (like the world cup threads, or a forum game, or whatever) I might give them attention. But there're so many possible members to choose and usually at the end of a round I've got a list of only twenty who've picked up votes. It's a bit sad, really (and not sad as in 'pathetic' as I implied earlier, which by the way I apologise for. I got snappy.)