[Kizzy]

Everything ends eventually, it's how it ends that is determinable.

People demonstrating against war is a positive for me.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everything ends eventually, it's how it ends that is determinable.

People demonstrating against war is a positive for me.

Only by Nukes





Demonstrators are Deluded Fools.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Only by Nukes





Demonstrators are Deluded Fools.

That's not true, many wars have ended without nuclear attack.
How are they deluded? They want an end to war so they go out and vocalise that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's not true, many wars have ended without nuclear attack.
How are they deluded? They want an end to war so they go out and vocalise that.

Big Wars end in Nukes


Look at all that wasted protesting
When Evil Blair went with Bush
on the Illegal Invasion /War in Iraq

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Big Wars end in Nukes


Look at all that wasted protesting
When Evil Blair went with Bush
on the Illegal Invasion /War in Iraq

Hollywood films end in nukes.

It still helps to know the weight of public feeling on issues that are out of our control.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hollywood films end in nukes.

It still helps to know the weight of public feeling on issues that are out of our control.

Some of the Public
Never All of them.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Some of the Public
Never All of them.

Of course not... Whoever suggested the entire population of England was out protesting?
There were some 15,000 in London yesterday I believe.

[arista]

A few Israeli's troops have been killed
most shot by their own.

Trigger happy

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by the truth

wheres that clip?

it was live on the BBC news channel, they spoke with someone through a webcam i dunno who it was

[arista]

Sadly today in Gaza another Hospital
was hit,
thats so sad


Ref : Ch4NewsHD Live

[Northern Monkey]

It aint gonna end while Hamas is involved,No chance.Israelis are'nt gonna cut a deal with terrorists or while rockets are being fired at them.They're just gonna keep retaliating then Hamas will do the same.Vicious circle.They need a cease fire and some proper representatives on the Palestinian side.Hamas are terrorists,Firing rockets from hospitals and schools and using what are supposed to be their own people as human sheilds are not the actions of a legitimate group.Israelis are'nt faultless either but they atleast have something resembling a government who can be reasoned with.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Most sensible right minded Jewish people would not dream of going to live in that Fascist Gangster state, in fact most are embarrassed at what is done there alledgedly in their name.


Israel with it's successive Zionist Gov't have done more to hurt Jewish people and Jewish interests in the last 60 years than any Arabs ever could.


Despicable place populated by sad deluded hateful people.





.

I'm in total agreement with you!!!

America and Israel between them are responsible for more War Crimes and atrocities Worldwide than all of the so called 'terrorist groups' are between them!!!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I'm in total agreement with you!!!

America and Israel between them are responsible for more War Crimes and atrocities Worldwide than all of the so called 'terrorist groups' are between them!!!

not sure id go along with that. its a bit over simplistic and im not sure how one can calculate the sum totals ....though there have been many barbaric leaders responsible for deaths of millions, Mao and stalin is right at the top of that list, then hitler .....but I understand where youre coming from with israel and america.

They have both committed endless atrocities and bloodbaths. I believe america have invaded 70 nations. israel should never have been created in the 1940's the jews have zero right to steal land they claim to have lived on 2000 years ago. it was utterly preposterous from the start and of course would obviously lead to infinite war as its done for the past 70 years. this is the longest almost non stop conflict in history. but why set the state up there , when any man with a brain and a heart knows of the impending doom that will last until the end of the world? Incidentally do Muslims and Jews believe in the concept of forgiveness of sin and redemption? It certainly doesnt appear so

clearly the yanks and brits wanted to use this as a foothold to control the middle east. helping the poor oppressed jewish people after decades of persecuation was a mere ruse behind which to impose their will and a massive arsenal of nuclear weapons in palestine. then smartly use anti semitism as a hammer to hit anyone who dare question or criticize this insane plan

as for the atomic bomb it ended the us japanese war, but no one else has used it thankfully

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I'm in total agreement with you!!!

America and Israel between them are responsible for more War Crimes and atrocities Worldwide than all of the so called 'terrorist groups' are between them!!!

lol What a load of ****. The difference is terrorists target civilians, the US doesn't. That's a very important distinction to make. In fact actually the US has done more to try to prevent civilian deaths in war than any other country in the history of modern warfare.

[Kizzy]

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, these atrocities are supposedly done for the greater good.
Except it isn't good.. for anyone.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by lostalex

lol What a load of ****. The difference is terrorists target civilians, the US doesn't. That's a very important distinction to make. In fact actually the US has done more to try to prevent civilian deaths in war than any other country in the history of modern warfare.

... Err... Civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan are off the charts. Literally - I don't think anyone is even bothering to accurately record them any more.

Palestinian civilians, often including children, are being blown to bits every day, and Israel is practically a US puppet state.

Whether or not civilians are being targeted directly or are simply too close to the big booms when overpowered explosives are dropped with little precision in populated areas makes very little difference. The people are just as dead.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, these atrocities are supposedly done for the greater good.
Except it isn't good.. for anyone.

Or even the same man's, in different circumstances. I always think it's important to remember that Al Qaeda was US backed and funded (almost 3 billion dollars I believe) a few decades ago - to the point that they wouldn't EXIST without that backing. They were "freedom fighters" against dastardly Soviet forces... Fully supported by the US of A. Fast forward a few years and the US realise they have created a monster and now they must be "terrorists" and blown to smithereens.

It's funny really, half a century later and **** never changes. Here we are in 2014 with the US funding and backing Gaza strikes, and on top of that, planes being shot down and tensions with Russia.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I'm in total agreement with you!!!

America and Israel between them are responsible for more War Crimes and atrocities Worldwide than all of the so called 'terrorist groups' are between them!!!

Doesn't it make you wonder why Palestine's neighbours don't step in to help? I mean, look who Israel's closest neighbours are... Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Lebenon, Syria, Saudi Arabia... all Muslim countries. Makes you kind of wonder why they don't side with Hamas, doesn't it.

I'm not standing up for the killing of innocent Palestinians by the Israelis, not at all. But people forget that Hamas fires rockets into Israel daily, air raid sirens go off every day... day in, day out... they store their rockets, launchers and other arms and ammo in civilian areas, they fire their rockets from the roof of blocks of flats in civilian areas attempting to use the people as human shields. Israel agreed to an Egyptian-brokered a ceasefire last week, Hamas rejected it. While I acknowledge the Israeli reaction is way over the top, Hamas are not exactly innocent in all of this.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Or even the same man's, in different circumstances. I always think it's important to remember that Al Qaeda was US backed and funded (almost 3 billion dollars I believe) a few decades ago - to the point that they wouldn't EXIST without that backing. They were "freedom fighters" against dastardly Soviet forces... Fully supported by the US of A. Fast forward a few years and the US realise they have created a monster and now they must be "terrorists" and blown to smithereens.

It's funny really, half a century later and **** never changes. Here we are in 2014 with the US funding and backing Gaza strikes, and on top of that, planes being shot down and tensions with Russia.

To be fair, they do quite a large amount of blowing stuff to smithereens themselves.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

... Err... Civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan are off the charts. Literally - I don't think anyone is even bothering to accurately record them any more.

Palestinian civilians, often including children, are being blown to bits every day, and Israel is practically a US puppet state.

Whether or not civilians are being targeted directly or are simply too close to the big booms when overpowered explosives are dropped with little precision in populated areas makes very little difference. The people are just as dead.

Yep same **** different decade, history on repeat.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by lostalex

lol What a load of ****. The difference is terrorists target civilians, the US doesn't. That's a very important distinction to make. In fact actually the US has done more to try to prevent civilian deaths in war than any other country in the history of modern warfare.

You tell yourself that...that amazing brainwashing out in the states eh?

[Kizzy]

'Hamas and Islamic Jihad reportedly agreed to a five-hour pause in the fighting. However, Haaretz quoted senior Israeli officials as saying a humanitarian ceasefire was "not on our agenda right now".

'Twenty-seven soldiers have been killed in fighting, the IDF said in a statement. The Palestinian death toll in Gaza was climbing steadily towards 600, a third of whom are children, according to the UN children's agency Unicef.'

Sickening.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...amas-shujaiiya

[arista]

Ch4HD News
reports its getting worse in Gaza.
A High Rise Block was attacked but no Hamas in it or near it,
killing women and children.

Even UN water trucks get hit.


And even worse a UN School
was hit.

This is against International Law
of course Israel is above all laws

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

Ch4HD News
reports its getting worse in Gaza.
A High Rise Block was attacked but no Hamas in it or near it,
killing women and children.

Even UN water trucks get hit.


And even worse a UN School
was hit.

This is against International Law
of course Israel is above all laws

be careful they may call you an anti semite soon just for criticizing the fact the israelis are butchering 100s of innocent people. whata disgusting country, what an horrific regime. these are crimes against humanity, netenyahu belongs should be charged as a war criminal

[arista]

Hospital in Gaza Hit

http://news.sky.com/story/1305242/ga...ose-truce-plan