[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

If they were whispering it would have been worse. Chris was drunk and Ashleigh wasn't...why would she hush a conversation if it was a valid and balanced one.

Because they were making bitchy comments within it, the pair of them.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

She never said Helen had a million chances, her exact words were...

'She'd make our lives miserable at school, there were plenty of girls like her for me and I'd give them a second chance, a third chance, a tenth chance, a thousand chances and each time they'd make my life miserable'

"She would've ****ing destroyed my life at school"

"I've spent my whole secondary school giving people like her second, third, hundred, thousand chances..."

"If I didn't like her, I wouldn't have given her these chances the last few weeks"

Whether she said a "million chances" specifically or not, the sentiment is the same but paraphrased.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

I'm just glad I don't know that women in reality.
She seems like the most hateful woman you could possibly meet.
Totally toxic & two faced.
To defend her is to defend what she stands for. Awful.

100% agree with you.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

Not that I am defending mark but don't people bring up the fact ( I mean in other postings ) he's been on other reality shows ? Theoretically, that's his past ?

I've seen people talking about Danielle doing her webcam thing , that was in the past ! Zoe and so on ....


Again!!!!!! I wasn't bringing her past into my thread , I brought up something she has done which I personally don't agree with and think shows her character .
I said it in response to someone saying they'd trust her over the other hm.

I'm sorry but I can't just go by what I see in the house , I can't help the fact of what I know about her , it's common knowledge . The fact that she hasn't done anything to help herself or her character proves to me she is that person.
What I mean by that , a Nasty , vile , despicable person.

The fact that she done what she did and then go to sell stories about it , what a great person she is !!! Really nice of her . Also 2 months of being in the house completely removes her past and anything it has to do with her .

She hasn't proven that she's not that person quite the opposite !

Exactly. The hypocrisy is stunning. Other peoples pasts have been brought up and always have been. It's not new.
I had never heard of Helen or her past before she entered the BB house, and I couldn't care less about it. She can sleep with an entire football team for all I care. I personally judge her on how she is in the house.
If people want to bring her past into it, they have as much right to do so as those who bang on about other peoples. Nobody's past is out of bounds when they enter BB. They are all prone to judgement, and they know this when they enter.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

Show me because I missed that part. Ashleigh said to Chris that he had been talking passionately about Helen for 45 minutes.

[Ammi]

..it's funny how we all see things differently and yet 'see the same thing'...I don't see Helen as being loyal to her 'friends at all...what I see is someone who controls..a real life 'Power' person and so long as the people around her fall inline, agree with her, cheer her and basically never question or criticise her then she will defend them..'protect' them but they would feel her wrath in a split second if they ever dared to question her behaviour...that's not friendship, that's control..and the cool gang have on the whole been happy to be controlled because then they haven't had to put themselves in the firing line so much and had to be so vocal ..Ash has gone through the whole series under the shadow of Helen...and she's been happy to have taken that control also because with her immunity, neither has she ever really been in the firing line until now, when she's facing 'her public' ....how easy it's ben for her to have been 'the entertainment' of the series...and even then, she hasn't really been...she's dragged it down imo....