[arista]

[A councillor expelled by UKIP after saying
she had a problem with "negroes" has insisted
she is not racist and did not regret making
the comments.
Rozanne Duncan, who was a prominent
member of UKIP in the Thanet South seat
where Nigel Farage is running for Parliament,
was filmed by the BBC saying she
disliked "negroid features".
The same documentary also featured
the local UKIP chairman Martyn Heale
attempting to draw a line under
his past membership of the far-right National Front,
by saying: "I was never a member of the Gestapo".
UKIP expelled Ms Duncan in December as
soon as the party hierarchy became
aware of the remarks, but the comments
that led to the decision are revealed in
full for the first time in the
fly-on-the-wall documentary Meet the Ukippers.]


http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/n...x_Ukip_member/

[Livia]

I can't imagine the selection process UKIP have to choose their candidates. I suspect they'll just take anyone who wants to represent them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

I can't imagine the selection process UKIP have to choose their candidates. I suspect they'll just take anyone who wants to represent them.

That Lady says she has done nothing wrong
she should have been in the CH5HD Celeb Big Brother


BBC2HD 10PM tonight

[Livia]

The fact that she thinks she's done nothing wrong shows what a poor choice she was to stand for public office.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well done to Ukip once again getting rid of racists

a party of action

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well done to Ukip once again getting rid of racists

a party of action

Yes, but isn't it weird how many racists UKIP are attracting? There's almost one removed every week - and nowhere near as many from the other parties (except maybe the BNP but they would never remove them so.. )

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes, but isn't it weird how many racists UKIP are attracting? There's almost one removed every week - and nowhere near as many from the other parties (except maybe the BNP but they would never remove them so.. )

Hardly, its just that it makes the news and dont forget Ukip is gaining so many more people and supporters unlike the others.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Hardly, its just that it makes the news and dont forget Ukip is gaining so many more people and supporters unlike the others.

The greens have had a surge in support too.. but there haven't been any people removed for racism.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The greens have had a surge in support too.. but there haven't been any people removed for racism.

hardly comparable

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The greens have had a surge in support too.. but there haven't been any people removed for racism.

The Greens have had a surge in support from mainly young people who don't really know what we'd be letting ourselves in for in the Greens get in. Take some time to read about how they've run Brighton. They're a mess. And while some of their ideas are great, most of them are expensive and unworkable.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Hardly, its just that it makes the news and dont forget Ukip is gaining so many more people and supporters unlike the others.

It's one thing having racist supporters but racist representatives?.....

Of course that would make the news for any party, but there's only dogmatic UKIP spokespeople that are bombastic enough to state their bigoted view in such a matter of fact way.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes, but isn't it weird how many racists UKIP are attracting? There's almost one removed every week - and nowhere near as many from the other parties (except maybe the BNP but they would never remove them so.. )

You always make good points JoshBB.
I actually don't think the basis of UKIP is racist,for me it is more a lack of tolerance for want of a better description.
This Councillor virtually echoed Nigel Farage when he said he was on the tube or a train and people were talking in a foreign language, which made him feel uncomfortable.

This woman said, she heard people calling to each other in the street in their own language and that made her feel uncomfortable.
More and more do seem to hold that view too as you point out.

It is that intolerance that in the end helps divide against and fuel anger against those not of British origin.
While not racist,I would say, it is a strong evidence of at the very least unacceptable intolerance, and that has to be wrong in British politics too.

I agree with you, it is seeming a good number are building up as to being dropped as candidates or being told to quiet down as to their comments and that is a worrying situation.

Even in this documentary, it was said by the UKIP agent and press officer that those in UKIP have to hold back on their comments and that nothing has to be filmed and made known until the message was more acceptable.
Well that means we are 'not' getting the real views of UKIP candidates in that case and it also means in effect they are not being upfront with the voters.

The press officer said this Councillor had been told before to keep quiet and hold her views to herself as to this.
In a party supposedly advocating free speech,that comes across as very odd indeed and to me as a voter, (although no way a UKIP one),that makes me feel very uncomfortable with them indeed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and then the performance of the Australian bint on Andrew Neill Daily Politics?

well. I ask you

[Kizzy]

Yes but they're not racist are they?...

[billy123]

The Programme was pure comedy. What a Shambles.
Even the UKIP chairman for Thannet South where Farage is running is an ex National Front member.
The UKIP Councillor Janice Atkinson who referred to another Thai UKIP candidate as a Ting Tong was just disgusting. (She still works for UKIP but the Lady who she refferred to by that name has quit the party)

It would be funny if these people werent actually dangerous.

The Frank gallagher lookalike who wanted to be a councillor his interview was:
Why do you want to be a UKIP councillor? "Because i want to give something back and give it a go and because im cheeky"
Right your in!!

The scariest part of all is that this is the **** that spews out of their mouth when they know the cameras are rolling. Imagine what they are like behind closed doors.

warning the following video contains two racist loonykippers (one of which still represents them)

Spoiler:

Youtube video

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

I agree!

[Nedusa]

I love the way some people on this Forum revel in bashing UKIP. They are not alone though as the Political establishment are in the middle of a major campaign to discredit UKIP using any and all means at their disposal.

From outright condemnation of the party saying they are the modern day equivalent of the NF, that they are right wing and fascist. to ridiculing them through satire or poking fun at their members. the plan, however it is achieved it is to try and change public opinion and make people fearful from voting for UKIP or being associated with it in any way.

People on this Forum also buy into this mood and believe the nonsense spouted and post humerous or scathing posts about how UKIP are so right wing so hateful of foreigners so fascist....

But the election is fast approaching and the establishment is worried..... very worried as their cosy little plan to sell this Country down the river has been called out for everyone to see and folks people are watching and thinking and no amount of this smear campaign bull**** will make me or millions (hopefully) of people change their view of UKIP and that change is desparately needed and UKIP offer a way to start that change.

Just a small voice of protest , a line in sand where ALL peoples that currently live here in the UK are saying no to uncontrolled immigration, No to Europe and yes to real political representation by our elected leaders to do our bidding not just follow their own agenda or the agenda of big business and other vested interests.

So yes, carry on with all the ridiculous smearing, stupid TV programmes, personal attacks on it's members, it matters not because on election day I together with vast numbers of traditional Lab/Con/Lib voters will say..... enough of the failed status quo and register one of the biggest slaps in the face to the Political gentry of this Country in generations.

And not before time.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I love the way some people on this Forum revel in bashing UKIP. They are not alone though as the Political establishment are in the middle of a major campaign to discredit UKIP using any and all means at their disposal.

From outright condemnation of the party saying they are the modern day equivalent of the NF, that they are right wing and fascist. to ridiculing them through satire or poking fun at their members. the plan, however it is achieved it is to try and change public opinion and make people fearful from voting for UKIP or being associated with it in any way.

People on this Forum also buy into this mood and believe the nonsense spouted and post humerous or scathing posts about how UKIP are so right wing so hateful of foreigners so fascist....

But the election is fast approaching and the establishment is worried..... very worried as their cosy little plan to sell this Country down the river has been called out for everyone to see and folks people are watching and thinking and no amount of this smear campaign bull**** will make me or millions (hopefully) of people change their view of UKIP and that change is desparately needed and UKIP offer a way to start that change.

Just a small voice of protest , a line in sand where ALL peoples that currently live here in the UK are saying no to uncontrolled immigration, No to Europe and yes to real political representation by our elected leaders to do our bidding not just follow their own agenda or the agenda of big business and other vested interests.

So yes, carry on with all the ridiculous smearing, stupid TV programmes, personal attacks on it's members, it matters not because on election day I together with vast numbers of traditional Lab/Con/Lib voters will say..... enough of the failed status quo and register one of the biggest slaps in the face to the Political gentry of this Country in generations.

And not before time.

In the lead up to an election when a representative of a party says ' I'm not racist but I don't like Negros' then that's not conducive to a positive reflection is it?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I love the way some people on this Forum revel in bashing UKIP. They are not alone though as the Political establishment are in the middle of a major campaign to discredit UKIP using any and all means at their disposal.

From outright condemnation of the party saying they are the modern day equivalent of the NF, that they are right wing and fascist. to ridiculing them through satire or poking fun at their members. the plan, however it is achieved it is to try and change public opinion and make people fearful from voting for UKIP or being associated with it in any way.

People on this Forum also buy into this mood and believe the nonsense spouted and post humerous or scathing posts about how UKIP are so right wing so hateful of foreigners so fascist....

But the election is fast approaching and the establishment is worried..... very worried as their cosy little plan to sell this Country down the river has been called out for everyone to see and folks people are watching and thinking and no amount of this smear campaign bull**** will make me or millions (hopefully) of people change their view of UKIP and that change is desparately needed and UKIP offer a way to start that change.

Just a small voice of protest , a line in sand where ALL peoples that currently live here in the UK are saying no to uncontrolled immigration, No to Europe and yes to real political representation by our elected leaders to do our bidding not just follow their own agenda or the agenda of big business and other vested interests.

So yes, carry on with all the ridiculous smearing, stupid TV programmes, personal attacks on it's members, it matters not because on election day I together with vast numbers of traditional Lab/Con/Lib voters will say..... enough of the failed status quo and register one of the biggest slaps in the face to the Political gentry of this Country in generations.

And not before time.

A good post Nedusa, and I agree with it.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I love the way some people on this Forum revel in bashing UKIP. They are not alone though as the Political establishment are in the middle of a major campaign to discredit UKIP using any and all means at their disposal.

From outright condemnation of the party saying they are the modern day equivalent of the NF, that they are right wing and fascist. to ridiculing them through satire or poking fun at their members. the plan, however it is achieved it is to try and change public opinion and make people fearful from voting for UKIP or being associated with it in any way.

People on this Forum also buy into this mood and believe the nonsense spouted and post humerous or scathing posts about how UKIP are so right wing so hateful of foreigners so fascist....

But the election is fast approaching and the establishment is worried..... very worried as their cosy little plan to sell this Country down the river has been called out for everyone to see and folks people are watching and thinking and no amount of this smear campaign bull**** will make me or millions (hopefully) of people change their view of UKIP and that change is desparately needed and UKIP offer a way to start that change.

Just a small voice of protest , a line in sand where ALL peoples that currently live here in the UK are saying no to uncontrolled immigration, No to Europe and yes to real political representation by our elected leaders to do our bidding not just follow their own agenda or the agenda of big business and other vested interests.

So yes, carry on with all the ridiculous smearing, stupid TV programmes, personal attacks on it's members, it matters not because on election day I together with vast numbers of traditional Lab/Con/Lib voters will say..... enough of the failed status quo and register one of the biggest slaps in the face to the Political gentry of this Country in generations.

And not before time.

At the rate they are going you may be voting by yourself. Can I ask why are you so desperate to administer this slap when this is the kind of person your party want to put in office? Do you think this person is fit for office and would you vote for them? If you think this person is fit for office then why do you think the country would be better with more people like this in office? I anticipate your reply.

The smearing is not ridiculous. It barely needed your party representatives are a joke.

[Livia]

I just think they have to select their candidates a little more carefully.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

I just think they have to select their candidates a little more carefully.

Well yeah but what do they have to choose from? There has been one incident after another so I've no idea how their supporters can seriously talk of a smear campaign. Ukip are doing a great job losing votes by themselves. The quality of the people they want to put in office a joke.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Well yeah but what do they have to choose from? There has been one incident after another so I've no idea how their supporters can seriously talk of a smear campaign. Ukip are doing a great job losing votes by themselves. The quality of the people they want to put in office a joke.

Well, I can only speak from my own experience, I've never worked for UKIP... but the selection process for councillors, MEPs and MPs is the same as a job interview. You have to choose the best, most qualified candidate from a set of applicants. Sadly, fewer and fewer people are opting to stand and so the pool they're fishing from has got smaller and smaller. It gets to the point where you have to take anyone willing to stand in that area. UKIP being a small and virtually untested party suffer more than most when it comes to attracting suitable candidates.

Nice to see you back...I expect it feels positively arctic in comparison.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, I can only speak from my own experience, I've never worked for UKIP... but the selection process for councillors, MEPs and MPs is the same as a job interview. You have to choose the best, most qualified candidate from a set of applicants. Sadly, fewer and fewer people are opting to stand and so the pool they're fishing from has got smaller and smaller. It gets to the point where you have to take anyone willing to stand in that area. UKIP being a small and virtually untested party suffer more than most when it comes to attracting suitable candidates.

Nice to see you back...I expect it feels positively arctic in comparison.

I've caught a cold already. LOL

Surely it cant be too hard for Ukip to find suitable candidates before they tarnish their reputation all by them selves. The quality of their candidates is seriously undermining this campaign and will possibly affect future campaigns. .

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I've caught a cold already. LOL

Surely it cant be too hard for Ukip to find suitable candidates before they tarnish their reputation all by them selves. The quality of their candidates is seriously undermining this campaign and will possibly affect future campaigns. .

It's hard to tell at selection interviews. It's just like job interviews... you get people who promise everything and deliver nothing, you get people who are brilliant but don't handle interviews well... And of course, UKIP don't have an across the board appeal.

So... you went all the way to the Caribbean and all you brought back was a cold.