[Sophii3x]

I know

[Bells]

Fair enough he's been executed, but I'd just like to say - how many bad people are there in the world? Plenty! There's been many who have killed lots of innocent people and been executed as a result, but NONE of it has been shown on TV or whatever, and why? Because it's considered immoral, pointless etc. The only reason Saddam's got shown, and why so many people hate him and not any of the others, is because of the way he's been portrayed far far worse than anyone like him (e.g. Milosevic) - that too primarily in the Western world.

Would I watch the TV clip? NO!

[lily.]

I think a lot of people have a morbid fascination about watching these things..

I don't.

[Sophii3x]

random question

Was Hitler hanged?

[lily.]

After intense street-to-street combat, when Soviet troops were spotted within a block or two of the Reich Chancellory in the city centre, Hitler committed suicide in the Führerbunker on April 30, 1945 by means of a self-delivered shot to the head (it is likely he simultaneously bit into a cyanide ampoule). Hitler's body and that of Eva Braun (his long-term mistress whom he had married the day before) were put in a bomb crater, partially burned with gasoline by Führerbunker aides and hastily buried in the Chancellory garden as Russian shells poured down and Red Army infantry continued to advance only two or three hundred metres away. He also had his dog Blondi poisoned around the same time.

Source: wikipedia

[Corkie]

Originally posted by Sophii3x
random question

Was Hitler hanged?

Hitler shot himself when he was losing the war another theory is he got shot by a solider!

[Tanser_Man]

The video was pish anyway, you only see him drop, but you don't see his body thereafter.

Don't agree with all the people shouting islamic words at him... will only stir the pot furthermore in iraq.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Fair enough he's been executed, but I'd just like to say - how many bad people are there in the world? Plenty! There's been many who have killed lots of innocent people and been executed as a result, but NONE of it has been shown on TV or whatever, and why? Because it's considered immoral, pointless etc. The only reason Saddam's got shown, and why so many people hate him and not any of the others, is because of the way he's been portrayed far far worse than anyone like him (e.g. Milosevic) - that too primarily in the Western world.

Would I watch the TV clip? NO!

I'd watch the death of ANY evil person. You can't make more than 1000 murders sound any less worse than it is anyway.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
The video was pish anyway, you only see him drop, but you don't see his body thereafter.

You see a close-up of his dead face though. And the pictures of his body have been released to the media anyway

[Bells]

Originally posted by LaurenFah

I'd watch the death of ANY evil person. You can't make more than 1000 murders sound any less worse than it is anyway.

But you can at least attempt to treat all the evil people the same, which obviously wasn't the case here.
He certainly deserved to die - but watching the death is a personal choice, and I wouldn't.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02

But you can at least attempt to treat all the evil people the same, which obviously wasn't the case here.
He certainly deserved to die - but watching the death is a personal choice, and I wouldn't.

Sometimes we can't treat people the same as a result of policies. An example is the death penalty which is outlawed in some countries, UK etc. Whereas in US and Iraq it's that countries choice to have it.

[Bells]

Yeah and I do realise that – it’s the way of the world today, with all the different law systems.

I’m talking about the fact that yeah, he was executed, that too for being cruel, heartless and overall deserving. But his whole case was blown up for us much more than any other evil person who has been executed for, in several cases, the same reason. What with him being locked under American supervision 24/7 and that – it was serious! – but it all turned into a joke rather than a serious matter which I see it as. We don’t want more people like him in the world, and I just think that the way things were made so public and jokey is only going to trigger anger in more people.

I don’t see why Saddam’s being mocked after his death by having clips of himself sent round and everything – and nobody else has. It’s not that I’m condoning any of the behaviour at all; it’s all wrong, you can’t bring back the lives of the innocent people killed – but I just don’t get it that’s all.

(AND I still wouldn’t watch the clip, it’s not the sort of thing that interests me. Yeah he’s died, great, but no way would I watch it).

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by LaurenFah

You see a close-up of his dead face though. And the pictures of his body have been released to the media anyway

Ooh if your talking about that half a millisecond with the noose around his neck.... it's hardly the best look your going to get of him.

It's a shame his death was instant, unlike the thousands of people under his power that got tortured and gased.

[Tanser_Man]

And people say Sadam should have been killed, then surely Tony Blair and George Bush should get the same treatment for killing hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children in Iraq.

The whole situation is very hypocritical and the hypocrisy in the build up to the war in the first place was pathetic.

You just can't justify death by killing another person!

[Aflamo]

Originally posted by Legend
I watched the video and really enjoyed it. Am i wrong to enjoy seeing such a horrid man like him be hung? Nope.

He's a twonk - shame it weren't a more slow and painful death.

Quite frankly it is wrong to enjoy the death of any human being.. That's the kind of thing Saddam himself would have enjoyed.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aflamo

Quite frankly it is wrong to enjoy the death of any human being.. That's the kind of thing Saddam himself would have enjoyed.

I'm not denying I liked it. I loved it! Doesn't mean I'm going to invade a country partially, gas and slowly mutilate and torture all their men, women & children and then hold no remorse against my actions and downright ignore everything I've done.

[Aflamo]

Originally posted by LaurenFah

I'm not denying I liked it. I loved it! Doesn't mean I'm going to invade a country partially, gas and slowly mutilate and torture all their men, women & children and then hold no remorse against my actions and downright ignore everything I've done.

Yeah ok, but still how could you love to see a person being hung? I just think it is inhuman to enjoy a person (whether good or bad) being executed.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aflamo

Yeah ok, but still how could you love to see a person being hung? I just think it is inhuman to enjoy a person (whether good or bad) being executed.

Surely it can't be inhumane when psychologists prove that it can be natural human instincts to seek revenge?

[Aflamo]

Originally posted by LaurenFah

Surely it can't be inhumane when psychologists prove that it can be natural human instincts to seek revenge?

Ok take these scenarios:

Somebody steals a pen from your pencil case, you then find their pencil case wide open in an empty classroom.
Most people I would say might just simple take the pen back, others may decide to destroy the entire pencil case.


If somebody came into my house and killed a member of my family and I had an open opportunity to kill this murderer would I do it?
No, because I would never take another person's life nor find sastisfaction to see them die. I would rather let them live with the guilt, and die in jail.

Therefore yes seeking revenge is natural but the degree of which you take the revenge differs in everyone.

[Lauren]

I agree that although revenge differs in many people. However, because someones degree of revenge is higher than yours I don't find it acceptable to call their actions humane.

I accept your point of view, I know a lot of people that don't condone the death sentence and are repulsed by the thought of watching him hang. Whereas I know others who want to see it.
Calling these people names because they're views are different to mine isn't my kettle of fish.

[Siouxsie]

hes gone and well i dont give a dam really

[Lauren]

Originally posted by scooby
hes gone and well i dont give a dam really

I agree, Sue.

[Siouxsie]

i got my life to live lol

[Sticks]

The other problem was that he was supposed to stand trial for other crimes, like the gassing of the Kurds. They should have deferred sentancing until after the other trials. This means he has not been convicted of those other offences and the victims are denied justice for their own grievences.

Wrt the video, I have had a chance to see that mobile phone one, so I have a right to comment. Much the same argument for me watching BB so I can criticise it. Since the official news channels stop the videos before the final end, the video sharing sites should also be following that lead, and censoring or removing those videos that show the whole lot.

Should we be glad of this tyrant's death, well I am with John Donne on that one

As for Bush and Blair, well you can not compare. Both Bush and Blair are democratically elected, first by their own electorate and then the country as a whole. More than could be said for that wonderfully benovolant philantropic reign of SH. There were no lies, just that no WMDs were found. SH had had them and used them. He was either subcontracting out to say Syria to cheat on the weapons inspectors or, acted in such a way as to make us think he had them, in the belief we would not attack. The trouble was, in this case, he never expected us to call his bluff

[Aflamo]

Originally posted by LaurenFah
I agree that although revenge differs in many people. However, because someones degree of revenge is higher than yours I don't find it acceptable to call their actions humane.

I accept your point of view, I know a lot of people that don't condone the death sentence and are repulsed by the thought of watching him hang. Whereas I know others who want to see it.
Calling these people names because they're views are different to mine isn't my kettle of fish.

For me it's different if you acknowledge Saddam's death and think "well good riddance" that's fine I would classify you as inhumane but to actually love watching his death is a different "kettle of fish".