[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Of course not.

When was having a laugh a crime? Especially when Joel was pretending to find it funny?

Would you find it funny if a man who had been persuing you for days despite being told you weren't gay, who you had refused to kiss just hours earlier in a game of truth or dare as you were uncomfortable... then decided to start thrusting at you naked and bending you over? Really...

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Would you find it funny if a man who had been persuing you for days despite being told you weren't gay, who you had refused to kiss just hours earlier in a game of truth or dare as you were uncomfortable... then decided to start thrusting at you naked and bending you over? Really...

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

Are you actually having a ****ing laugh? That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've heard all night.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Are you actually having a ****ing laugh? That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've heard all night.

No the most ridiculous comments tonight are the people that want rigid BB's.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

Sorry Mock but that's ludicrous

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Sorry Mock but that's ludicrous

How?

I normally like Joel, but that was appalling tonight from him.

Who remembers the Ch4 days when we had Michelle Bass, Craig Coates, Lea BB7, Richard BB7, Mario BB11, they would all be thrown out in these BB's because they dared to not discuss showmances or how they're growing as people like it's an episode of EastEnders.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

See I feel the total opposite

He has laughed off Aarons behaviour in the past which tbh tells me he IS quite secure about being straight. There is a point, where it crosses the line, and tonight Aaron did. I don't find it fair at all to blame Joel :S

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

Mock, you need to understand that people are comfortable with different levels of hyper sexuality. You might personally be fine with a friend thrusting a naked body towards you but surely you can understand that many people will not feel the same.
Joel didn't let himself down and if you or anybody else were ever put in a situation where a person oversteps a line, then that person deserves some sort of punishment.
For instance, flashing a stripper in a strip club would probably only get you kicked out the bar, doing the same thing to a nun in a church would give you jail time.
It is not about the act, it is about the perception. And not the perception of the onlookers, the perception of the victim.
Aaron was rightly removed from the house in this instance.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

Mock, you need to understand that people are comfortable with different levels of hyper sexuality. You might personally be fine with a friend thrusting a naked body towards you but surely you can understand that many people will not feel the same.
Joel didn't let himself down and if you or anybody else were ever put in a situation where a person oversteps a line, then that person deserves some sort of punishment.
For instance, flashing a stripper in a strip club would probably only get you kicked out the bar, doing the same thing to a nun in a church would give you jail time.
It is not about the act, it is about the perception. And not the perception of the onlookers, the perception of the victim.
Aaron was rightly removed from the house in this instance.

I get what you're saying, but that's why I would've given Aaron a warning, maybe even a first and final warning if BB felt that it was really bad.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Of course not.

When was having a laugh a crime? Especially when Joel was pretending to find it funny?

Are you familiar with nervous laughter?, do you honestly think Joel looked comfortable?

[Vicky.]

Yup. He definitely went too far.

Also he appears to have a problem with alcohol, which contributed a lot. Not that thats an excuse but still...

[Tom4784]

He went too far, it was the right decision to boot him out.

[Shaun]

He wasn't in any position to let anyone down lmao it's hardly his fault if the other mess can't control himself.

[Amy Jade]

No.

Although I do see why they did, Joel played along and egged him on in my opinion and then changed tac in the diary room. I'm aware he looked uncomfortable and asked Aaron to stop but he then threw pillows and stuff play fighting.

[Liam-]

Mock sorry, but you're wrong, you need to learn the difference between casual nakedness and sexual harassment/assault, those people didn't do anything near what Aaron did.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Mock sorry, but you're wrong, you need to learn the difference between casual nakedness and sexual harassment/assault, those people didn't do anything near what Aaron did.

Trust me I'm not wrong.

Aaron's behaviour wasn't much different to Dappy, Luisa, or Perez in their sexual outbursts.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Trust me I'm not wrong.

Aaron's behaviour wasn't much different to Dappy, Luisa, or Perez in their sexual outbursts.

No you're wrong, end of story really, your opinion on this matter is vile and actually rather worrying.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No you're wrong, end of story really, your opinion on this matter is vile and actually rather worrying.

Why is it worrying? Because I'm not some prude that takes a drunken guys antics so seriously when he thought that him and Joel was having a laugh together?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Why is it worrying? Because I'm not some prude that takes a drunken guys antics so seriously when he thought that him and Joel was having a laugh together?

No that you think a man rubbing his naked body up against someone who was clearly uncomfortable after he had been told multiple times to stop, that's what is worrying.. And the fact that you backed up your opinion by stating that you supported Jeremy in the whole debacle of CBB15 as well, that's what is worrying, it's not clever and it's not smart to victim blame, it's horrid and pathetic.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Trust me I'm not wrong.

Aaron's behaviour wasn't much different to Dappy, Luisa, or Perez in their sexual outbursts.

It was totally different and you are totally wrong

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by the truth

It was totally different and you are totally wrong

The Overreactors don't do themselves any favours stating their opinions as fact and insulting members earlier on for having a different opinion.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The Overreactors don't do themselves any favours stating their opinions as fact and insulting members earlier on for having a different opinion.

I agree 100% Mock, passionate debate is fine but when people insinuate you were brought up wrong or are basically a fool for not following the popular opinion it's plain nastiness.

[rionablue]

Yes. Joel asked him to stop and tried to get away from him. Even when he went into the bathroom Aaron jumped into his bed.

[BENDERBOY]

Totally justified, if a guy had done that to a girl he'd have been out on the spot.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by BENDERBOY

Totally justified, if a guy had done that to a girl he'd have been out on the spot.

Well I can't argue for other people, but I defended Jeremy in the last CBB when he touched Chloe's robe, and the last time I checked Chloe was a girl, a very ****able one while at it.

Oops! BB have just stopped me from being one of the 4 Housemates coming in tomorrow night due to my posts about another female.