[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It's quite silly you say that because you don't know his fans personally Loads of women love him too tbh. I like him and I respect women and you can't say i don't because you don't know me at all.

That's alright, you can have your opinion and I'll have mine

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That's alright, you can have your opinion and I'll have mine

Well it's a bit ignorant tbh

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I can say that, that's my opinion, I persoanlly don't see how people can have respect for women and find the things he says about and to women funny or entertaining, sorry.

I somewhat agree with you there, I think people that respect women would find Marc's comments appalling

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I somewhat agree with you there, I think people that respect women would find Marc's comments appalling

Thank you, that's what I was getting at

Be a fan of his all you want idc, but agreeing, laughing at or finding the things he says and about women 'entertaining' is a completely different story imo.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Thank you, that's what I was getting at

Be a fan of his all you want idc, but agreeing, laughing at or find the things he says and about women is a completely different story imo.

he takes the mickey out of the men too? they laugh it off? why cant some of the women laugh it off too? wheres their sense of humour of perspective, yes he can be an eejiot but so what its just a bit of nonsense banter..some pretend to take offence for air time clearly....hes insulted joel all week, joel gives it to him double barrel but they still get along, same with sam (a woman) same with danny and Christian who marc has had several major gos at and jack...........marc for all his faults defended simon when simon was being isolated by everyone so he does back the underdog too

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I somewhat agree with you there, I think people that respect women would find Marc's comments appalling

But ALL women are different, why would you respect ALL women? when some are awful?
that's like saying respect ALL men? does that include hitler?
ridiculous genralizations are meaningless....no one can respect ALL women or ALL men

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by the truth

But ALL women are different, why would you respect ALL women? when some are awful?
that's like saying respect ALL men? does that include hitler?
ridiculous genralizations are meaningless....no one can respect ALL women or ALL men

You keep emphasizing on the word "all" but I didn't even mention ALL women so idk what you're going on about tbh

[Liam-]

If you want to think that then go ahead, that's your prerogative, I'm not going to change your mind

[the truth]

harry the cruel man user and man hater....she disrespects everyones wishes, the way she was speaking to nick in the kitchen was horrific, rude, nasty , aggressive ignorant...and all he was doing was taking the time out to help her like a good friend...when all shes done is use him for air time...simple as that...totally ruthless player.. such as putting clothes on when doing the food in the kitchen........shes also made a threat by asking someone to take her bottle away...shes extremely threatening aggressive and angry with no humour whatsoever....there will be more of the same....she ended tonight with he should be afraid of me..shes dishonest shes ruthless shes aggressive shes angry..shes evil....all marc has to do is be happy marc don't let her get a chance to play victim or falsely accuse him of anything stupid,give her enough rope and she will hang herself and expose the horror of a human she clearly is

[LukeB]

Being a fan of marc is not a sign "not respecting women" imo if they think he is a role model which no one does(well i haven't seen anyone say that) yes maybe. But you can't accuse people of it when you don't know them at all. It's like walking around the town centre accusing some girl you don't even know for being a slut or accusing sugatits of being a bully.Just because Marc may dislike women(which seems unlikely if he is having sex with one) doesn't mean his fans do.His fanbase is mostly females anyway

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Just because Marc may dislike women(which seems unlikely if he is having sex with one)

is this a joke

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

is this a joke

I'll let you take that one, I cba

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

is this a joke

[Jack_]

Some of the comments Marc has made I don't agree with (the STI thing being one example), but I think he's a good housemate. A person maybe not so much, but as a housemate yes, and there are differences. And the idea that anyone who's a fan of Marc doesn't and cannot respect women doesn't sit well with me considering I'm one of the people who defends women and argues against sexism the most on here, not just regarding each Big Brother series but in off-season debate threads too, and anyone that can't see that is pretty deluded so

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Some of the comments Marc has made I don't agree with (the STI thing being one example), but I think he's a good housemate. A person maybe not so much, but as a housemate yes, and there are differences. And the idea that anyone who's a fan of Marc doesn't and cannot respect women doesn't sit well with me considering I'm one of the people who defends women and argues against sexism the most on here, not just regarding each Big Brother series but in off-season debate threads too, and anyone that can't see that is pretty deluded so

I look forward to the day in 2027 when you actually see the sexism against men, inside the house and out

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by the truth

I look forward to the day in 2027 when you actually see the sexism against men, inside the house and out

I do and you've made this point to me before and I've said exactly the same thing, if there are double standards (I wouldn't call it sexism but that's a separate debate so please don't start it) against men I will call them out

In fact, go read my posts in the Love Island discussion threads from the first and second nights and you'll see what I mean

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Some of the comments Marc has made I don't agree with (the STI thing being one example), but I think he's a good housemate. A person maybe not so much, but as a housemate yes, and there are differences. And the idea that anyone who's a fan of Marc doesn't and cannot respect women doesn't sit well with me considering I'm one of the people who defends women and argues against sexism the most on here, not just regarding each Big Brother series but in off-season debate threads too, and anyone that can't see that is pretty deluded so

preach

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Some of the comments Marc has made I don't agree with (the STI thing being one example), but I think he's a good housemate. A person maybe not so much, but as a housemate yes, and there are differences. And the idea that anyone who's a fan of Marc doesn't and cannot respect women doesn't sit well with me considering I'm one of the people who defends women and argues against sexism the most on here, not just regarding each Big Brother series but in off-season debate threads too, and anyone that can't see that is pretty deluded so

That's why I elaborated somewhere up there ^^

While I don't understand why anyone would be a fan of him, that's not the problem, the way I see It is, I can't see how anyone can proclaim to have respect for women, yet appreciate, laugh at, or support the things he says about/to women at the same time

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That's why I elaborated somewhere up there ^^

While I don't understand why anyone would be a fan of him, that's not the problem, the way I see It is, I can't see how anyone can proclaim to have respect for women, yet appreciate, laugh at, or support the things he says about/to women at the same time

I can't take you serious when you support Evil Dick who attacked a female but that's a different story.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I can't take you serious when you support Evil Dick who attacked a female but that's a different story.

Lmao 'attacked' okay, that's a completely irrelevant situation to this, but nice try though.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Lmao 'attacked' okay, that's a completely irrelevant situation to this, but nice try though.

Yeah you praised evil dick for bullying jen.

I love pouring ice tea over a females head because i don't like them

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That's why I elaborated somewhere up there ^^

While I don't understand why anyone would be a fan of him, that's not the problem, the way I see It is, I can't see how anyone can proclaim to have respect for women, yet appreciate, laugh at, or support the things he says about/to women at the same time

I don't support all of the things he says, the STI thing was out of order, as was his fantasy of penetrating Sam and making her cry, but with Marc I mainly support the fact that he's pissing people off, causing an atmosphere and making enemies than the things he's actually saying. It's not the comments I support, but the impact he's having is what makes him a good housemate IMO. And I totally don't buy into the argument that he is a bully, that to me is ludicrous

Originally Posted by LukeB

I can't take you serious when you support Evil Dick who attacked a female but that's a different story.

Actually that's a very good point. Now I liked Dick (lul) but the Jen incident and his general treatment of the houseguests was and is far worse than anything Marc has ever done or said, so...I'm pretty sure this whole lack of respect for women argument could be applied here also

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don't support all of the things he says, the STI thing was out of order, as was his fantasy of penetrating Sam and making her cry, but with Marc I mainly support the fact that he's pissing people off, causing an atmosphere and making enemies than the things he's actually saying. It's not the comments I support, but the impact he's having is what makes him a good housemate IMO. And I totally don't buy into the argument that he is a bully, that to me is ludicrous



Actually that's a very good point. Now I liked Dick (lul) but the Jen incident and his general treatment of the houseguests was and is far worse than anything Marc has ever done or said, so...I'm pretty sure this whole lack of respect for women argument could be applied here also

some more great post here my friend
Agree with everything you said.

[Lostie!]

The "Marc fans can't respect women" comments are inappropriate tbh. Can't people share different opinions without personal insults towards other forum members anymore?

I like Marc and I certainly respect women (and men, who are no less deserving of respect). I like him because I see him as a wind-up merchant, not some woman-hating bully (which is especially confusing since males have been at the brunt of his behaviour just as much).

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The "Marc fans can't respect women" comments are inappropriate tbh. Can't people share different opinions without personal insults towards other forum members anymore?

That was never specifically said, but I'll speak from where I come from on that.

I've seen people on here claim it's just banter over and over again and that deep down he's this nice person but he's crossed the line far too many times and been asked to stop by housemates and BB and he's pretty much refused. His comments have offended and hurt Chloe, Jade and Harry and reduuced them to tears so for me people who find his comments funny towards women and find his constant crude words entertaining maybe don't appreciate that the women around him should not have to put up with it.

Therfore I genuinely wonder how much respect for women some people may have if they find him calling somebody a cum bucket or a ugly pig prostitute honestly amusing because personally if I saw a man call a woman those things I would be disgusted.