[rex3]

Originally posted by ttw

i mean, your disregarding everything that has gone on, and sticking to your same point of her getting pissed after days of different name calling, sherpel, shipla, dont you think for that long and with different names, then calling her princess was patronising and was a device for humiliation, with her then calling her the indian.


she got pissed of with the name calling, becuase it was after that, she asked if she lived in the slums

[Sarvepalli777]

What is foo-foo?

[Colette]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Did you not see the stock cube episode . . . Shilpa so started the c**p there!

I agree, she started that argument, after a lot of provocation admittedly. And it would have been something and nothing if the three girls hadn't sneered and starting going on about the chicken, instead of reacting normally. But yes, she started it.

Then Jade took it to truly offensive extremes.

It's not that Shilpa is perfect and always without blame. It's that Jade and her friends have constantly gone beyond the boundaries of acceptable behaviour.

[Sarvepalli777]

Jades mum was not being patronising, watch it again, listen to her tone, there is no malice there.

[rex3]

Originally posted by ttw

It is true.

And at one point Jade was about to leave it but Shilpa denied the point that she lied.

But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation.

so she aint allowed to voice her concerns, but they are. Especially when she was feeling bullied. Your not taking into consideration of what she has been feeling for the past week.


I keep responding becuase i just think this is pathetic. its not even about standing up and taking sides, its just pathetic ignorance

[ttw]

In reference to the 'do you live in a house or a shack' quote from Jackiey, through her tone I think you could tell she was not trying to be horrible, she is just very stupid.

On a trip to Jamaica I met people who thought there weren't any black people in England and the American's I met thought all English people just drank tea and were all very posh, I became good friends with these people whilst there and I wouldn't say they were racist just unaware of my culture.

[Colette]

Originally posted by ttw

It is true.

And at one point Jade was about to leave it but Shilpa denied the point that she lied.

But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation.

Actually Shilpa withdrew that to Jo, accepting what she'd said was untrue, then Jade started ranting again and Shilpa gave up...

[Dan_]

Originally posted by ttw

I don't think Jade is the ring leader at all. Jade is just the more open one, loudest, and the one that actually tells Shilpa to her face, Danielle and Jo are just as bad but the difference is they do it behind her back.

I think you'll find the first time they got really nasty about her was the time Danielle referred to her as a 'dog' and Danielle was definately the one being the most verbal and most nasty.

I agree that Jo and Danielle are just as bad for saying it all behind her back but I just feel that Jade's the one they look upto and try and impress and she kind seems the most vocal in all of it which gives me the impression of her being the leader.

There was tension between Jade and Shilpa beforehand but you're right that Danielle was the first to really get vile out of the three.

[rex3]

Originally posted by ttw
In reference to the 'do you live in a house or a shack' quote from Jackiey, through her tone I think you could tell she was not trying to be horrible, she is just very stupid.

On a trip to Jamaica I met people who thought there weren't any black people in England and the American's I met thought all English people just drank tea and were all very posh, I became good friends with these people whilst there and I wouldn't say they were racist just unaware of my culture.

If she lived in a shack how would she be a celeb, she about 40, and can read english... scietifically dont you think people that can read, would no the wrongings of the question, EVEN a 10 year old would know that was an attack.

[ttw]

Originally posted by rex3

so she aint allowed to voice her concerns, but they are. Especially when she was feeling bullied. Your not taking into consideration of what she has been feeling for the past week.


I keep responding becuase i just think this is pathetic. its not even about standing up and taking sides, its just pathetic ignorance

Read my comment properly, I am taking into consideration what she has been saying, that's why I said "But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation."

I am not taking sides I do not think there treatment of Shilpa is correct, I just don;t think it is racism

[Sarvepalli777]

Work calls . . . it's been nice chatting with you all & I wish you all well until the next time, lets just hope it all calms down a bit for them all. I don't think any of them are truly as bad as is being portrayed in the press.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Work calls . . . it's been nice chatting with you all & I wish you all well until the next time, lets just hope it all calms down a bit for them all. I don't think any of them are truly as bad as is being portrayed in the press.

thanks for the debate. sarvepalli.

James I think you can undelete my previous post which has relevene

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
What is foo-foo?

Ah good. Proof that you havnt been watching this series, which explains your contorted views on everything.

[Sarvepalli777]

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[S2]

Originally posted by rex3
manton, Im white my self, Im full turkish

Your skin colour may be white, but you are certainly not white. You are classified as asian.

Originally posted by Sarvepalli777
Germaine calling the girls 'White' trash was racist . . . whilst I'm still to hear Jade make a racist comment. Isn't she mixed race?

No he said like people who come on the Jerry Springer show are *mouths it* white trash, he made a comparision that linked Jades family to those who appear on the JS show.

And being mixed race doesn't mean you can't be racist.
I know lots of mixed race girls who hated on the fact they are half black, because they wanted to be fair skinned and were racist to black people.

Does racism exist amongst white people? Yeah it does. My sister-in-law who is white had to endure alot of racist abuse because she joined part of a non-white family


Being called "princess" by your mum and dad is because they love you, they want everything for you and because they want you to lead a fairly tale life, but when Jackiey called her that it wasn't for the same reason, its because she believed Shilpa waits on hand and foot her for home helpers to do everything for her. That is an alleged assumption on Jackieys part.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by ttw

Read my comment properly, I am taking into consideration what she has been saying, that's why I said "But saying that, I'm pretty sure Shilpa had some vent up anger in their which contributed to the situation."

I am not taking sides I do not think there treatment of Shilpa is correct, I just don;t think it is racism

And yet Shilpa asks the girls an everyday question about stock-cubes, (which the girls had selfishly wasted on themselves) and you claim Shilpa is starting an argument.

No. The argument started when Jade decided Shilpa didnt have the right to ask her any questions.

[ttw]

Originally posted by rex3

If she lived in a shack how would she be a celeb, she about 40, and can read english... scietifically dont you think people that can read, would no the wrongings of the question, EVEN a 10 year old would know that was an attack.

Well actually, before she went into the house she expained before she had eye laser surgery she thought she couldn't read, it wasn't that, she just couldn't see. And scientifically(???) just because she can read it would not therefore means she would know the wrongings of the question.

The question was lead from pure ignorance and a totally unawareness of her culture.

[ttw]

Originally posted by The_Hitman

And yet Shilpa asks the girls an everyday question about stock-cubes, (which the girls had selfishly wasted on themselves) and you claim Shilpa is starting an argument.

No. The argument started when Jade decided Shilpa didnt have the right to ask her any questions.

There is a comment I made in a post about that arguement where I stated I believe Jade took the argument way too far and it was unnecassary .

[rizzarex]

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[rex3]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan

Your skin colour may be white, but you are certainly not white. You are classified as asian.

ffs ...., but in terms of a racist looking at me and another brown person he would be racist to the brown person.

and what the hell is it with, desi people hijacking the term "asian".

its like on a form theres, Asian, Chinese, Turkish, White, Black, Other............... that irritates the hell out of me, why not have desi, which more describe the indian sub continent

[rex3]

Originally posted by rex3

ffs ...., but in terms of a racist looking at me and another brown person he would be racist to the brown person.

and what the hell is it with, desi people hijacking the term "asian".

its like on a form theres, Asian, Chinese, Turkish, White, Black, Other............... that irritates the hell out of me, why not have desi, which more describe the indian sub continent

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[ttw]

Originally posted by The_Hitman

And yet Shilpa asks the girls an everyday question about stock-cubes, (which the girls had selfishly wasted on themselves) and you claim Shilpa is starting an argument.

No. The argument started when Jade decided Shilpa didnt have the right to ask her any questions.

I didn't think it was due to the question that it broke out I think it is the fact the Shilpa lied , especially as Shilpa had taken control of the shopping.

Just because I am defending them against racism , it doesn't mean I am defending their behaviour towards Shilpa. I am not.

[S2]

Originally posted by rex3

ffs ...., but in terms of a racist looking at me and another brown person he would be racist to the brown person.

and what the hell is it with, desi people hijacking the term "asian".

its like on a form theres, Asian, Chinese, Turkish, White, Black, Other............... that irritates the hell out of me, why not have desi, which more describe the indian sub continent

Asian people have not hijacked the term "asian" so don't slap an alleged assumption on them. If you have a problem raise it in the House of Parliament.

Desi is the word used in the asian countries of India, Bangladesh, Pakistan etc to describe that they are asian

[Sunny_01]

I dont think that it was a thought out lie - I think that she felt she had ordered them for herself. I feel she might have meant they were one of the "only" things she ordered for herself.

I think that Jade was ready to sieze any opportunity to have an argument with Shilpa. She is the one that really over reacted about the question Shilpa asked and then made a huge mountain out of a mole hill.