[jaxie]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Oh shut the **** up Andy!

I couldn't have put it better.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

so why is he using the "Bully" word?

Either he's woe is me or he is manipulating the viewers

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I think Natalie will get along with Andy and she could become queen of the house....she's stronger than the young girls and stronger than Jayne no question

Yes I agree. I really hope she doesn't go. We need a strong female in there.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What's that got to do with this discussion?

Do you complain when the guys take their shirts off?

What's it got to do with the discussion ? Don't you know the discussion is about Andy being bullied ?

She was one of the rock apes sat on the bench with the knives out...she's very relevant to the topic.....and it's great isn't it ? Cause she's finally no longer Evelyn the Incredibke Invisible Woman....granted, she is only visible with the support of the other 3, but at least she's trying.....very

[MrWong]

Asking someone what they mean't and being given the opportunity to clear it up equals bullying now?

He failed to clear up his reason for targeting the hm's rather than the others when they were supposed to be working as a team however.

[jet]

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by jet

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

Andy to win!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

Pretty sure the housemates did too, was quite obvious

[hot2go]

Andy did great against the other three I thought....in fact he clobbered Sam into such silence that Sam walked away...pretty much like he did when Andy said he didn't believe his ghost story....Andy prob feels good that one of the people trying to pick on him actually always runs away when the going gets tough....Andy already proving stronger than Sam

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Andy to win!

Yeh, Andy to win...I like Andy

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think Andy feels picked on.

Looks to me like he was playing the victim and trying to make the others out to be bullies. When at worst, they just don't like him and had a task where they had to voice some of their views.

Remember that the tweets read out suggested he was sly, so it's not like they're not being fed info by the producers to make them think this way as well.

[hot2go]

I wonder how the house dynamics will change when the others arrive and at least 3 of them say they consider Andy to be a great guy....I even think Andys situation in relation to the topic will be helped along by Ryan..esp if Sam makes a play for Huey....I might start to like Ryan, that would be a massive Uturn for me but one I would welcome if it will help Andy...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Pretty sure the housemates did too, was quite obvious

Yeah, it was obvious to most of the HM's no doubt, and to us. So why do you think those 3 quizzed him if they already knew the answer? Isn't that just ganging up for the sake of it?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I wonder how the house dynamics will change when the others arrive and at least 3 of them say they consider Andy to be a great guy....I even think Andys situation in relation to the topic will be helped along by Ryan..esp if Sam makes a play for Huey....I might start to like Ryan, that would be a massive Uturn for me but one I would welcome if it will help Andy...

Andy will have some friends, so i'm happy for him.

[hot2go]

So this week Geirgina hates Andy...last week she hated Marco...I wonder who it will be next week ...I must admit, she seemed much warmer when she wasn't so bitter towards people at the start of the show...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

Yeah, it was obvious to most of the HM's no doubt, and to us. So why do you think those 3 quizzed him if they already knew the answer? Isn't that just ganging up for the sake of it?

Just to have a go. 2 of them walked away once he explained himself perfectly well, without even ****ing saying anything. Its ridiculous. I think Sam is the driving force mind. I kinda believe Laura is ridiculously easily led as she seems so desperate to be liked. I don't think she had an actual problem until Sams spent the day bitching and twisting it.

All just my opinion of course

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Andy will have some friends, so i'm happy for him.

Me too....Marco didn't have any friends when it happened to him, they had been sent next door sadly but Andy in a very good position to win this one against what's taking place right now ...he is liked by housemates and by public....2 guys in a row have left now, pretty sure if public get chance, next one will be a female ...another strong position for Andy

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

I assumed he aimed his comment at Marco. His explanation did make sense though.

He struggled with his explanation for targeting his hm's over the others though because his reason was petty (being butthurt over being nominated).

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by hot2go

What's it got to do with the discussion ? Don't you know the discussion is about Andy being bullied ?

She was one of the rock apes sat on the bench with the knives out...she's very relevant to the topic.....and it's great isn't it ? Cause she's finally no longer Evelyn the Incredibke Invisible Woman....granted, she is only visible with the support of the other 3, but at least she's trying.....very

You was slagging her off for taking her clothes off which wasn't relevant to the discussion.

I'm also wondering (which you haven't answered yet) if say Alex started walking around topless would you complain and start calling him names? Or is it okay to pick on the pretty girl?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Me too....Marco didn't have any friends when it happened to him, they had been sent next door sadly but Andy in a very good position to win this one against what's taking place right now ...he is liked by housemates and by public....2 guys in a row have left now, pretty sure if public get chance, next one will be a female ...another strong position for Andy

Yes I hope so. And if he's ever nominated against Georgina we will fight to keep him in

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jet

Georgina let herself down tonight - boy, can she hold a grudge!
As for Sam, I can't stand that two faced slimy snake. He bad mouthed Marco and nominated him (while Andy did not), then has the cheek to question Andy about his reaction to Marco's eviction. I knew what Andy meant when he said about a reality check, and even when he explained, Sam, along with Laura and the non - entity Evelyn were still going at him.
Andy is the most straight forward, honest and mature one among the lot of them. He makes them like like silly children in comparison.

Bang on the nail.....brilliant post ....

[Vicky.]

I missed the first 15 mins of the show as husband had top gear on which had been paused so we could bath the kids, whats this about targeting the housemates instead of the others? His explanations while talking to Jason have made sense to me if its about that tbh, saying he has no loyalty simply because they entered at the same time and if he gets on with someone from over there then his loyalties change...don't see the issue with that. But I am assuming something else happened?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes I hope so. And if he's ever nominated against Georgina we will fight to keep him in

Oh 100% ....

[Yaki da]

Andy's spinning a narrative like he knows how to do and some of you are falling for it.

Rule number 1 of watching BB... The moment someone starts using the "Bully" word when there is nothing even remotely close to such behaviour going on, that person is trying to manipulate you.

[Wizard.]

It all comes down to the fact that Andy is successful and intelligent with a long-term partner and his own house whereas Sam just goes out and parties all weekend probably lives with his mum, is single and lonely and bitter and jealous.