[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If he survives i am expecting his rather dodgy sexual comments he makes to the young girls to be aired a bit more.

I have heard him a couple of times in the background on live feed say some dubious things to our ev.

He's still relatively young and single, and good looking in a Stacey Keach Jr kind of way, so what is wrong with him flirting or chatting up women - even if they are years younger than him?

Whatever he is doing, he is doing it with decorum. He is not running around the house naked flashing his bum or bits, nor jumping into bed with the women.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

He's still relatively young and single, and good looking in a Stacey Keach Jr kind of way, so what is wrong with him flirting or chatting up women - even if they are years younger than him?

Whatever he is doing, he is doing it with decorum. He is not running around the house naked flashing his bum or bits, nor jumping into bed with the women.

He looks 50, and he creeps me out talking sexual stuff with teenagers.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He looks 50, and he creeps me out talking sexual stuff with teenagers.

He went in looking 40, a few weeks with Charlie & we can see what it does to him. Who's the teenagers?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

He's not young. At 45 you are middle aged. So him flirting with Evelyn (as the previous poster said) who is the same as age as his daughter is seen as wrong by many who don't approve of a 25 year age gap.

I'm older than that and still younger than some men I know who are 25 years younger than me.

My wife is 20 years younger than me and was just 18 when we met, and we have been together for over 20 years, so I for one, could not give a toss whether 'some' see such an age gap as 'wrong' - it is not.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

He's not young. At 45 you are middle aged. So him flirting with Evelyn (as the previous poster said) who is the same as age as his daughter is seen as wrong by many who don't approve of a 25 year age gap.

But if a 45 year old woman had a young toyboy would you still disapprove?

[hot2go]

How long before Jason punches a wall ? How long before anybody would ?
He's been amazingly self contained. Imagine Hughie or Lateysha in his situation, be no roof left on the house.

And as for snarling at girls, what the hell has being female got to do with it... They're not excempt ...since when was she the weaker sex ? Equal rights until she gets caught out for being a bastard and then it's a sharp return to old fashioned gallantry and the poor fragile maiden. Do me a favour.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by hot2go

How long before Jason punches a wall ? How long before anybody would ?
He's been amazingly self contained. Imagine Hughie or Lateysha in his situation, be no roof left on the house.

And as for snarling at girls, what the hell has being female got to do with it... They're not except ...since when was she the weaker sex ? Equal rights until she gets caught out for being a bastard and then it's a sharp return to old fashioned gallantry and the poor fragile maiden. Do me a favour.

Well put Hot2Go.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

How long before Jason punches a wall ? How long before anybody would ?
He's been amazingly self contained. Imagine Hughie or Lateysha in his situation, be no roof left on the house.

And as for snarling at girls, what the hell has being female got to do with it... They're not excempt ...since when was she the weaker sex ? Equal rights until she gets caught out for being a bastard and then it's a sharp return to old fashioned gallantry and the poor fragile maiden. Do me a favour.

Amazingly self contained, or fake as **** because hes on tv as any realist would word it

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by hot2go

How long before Jason punches a wall ? How long before anybody would ?
He's been amazingly self contained. Imagine Hughie or Lateysha in his situation, be no roof left on the house.

And as for snarling at girls, what the hell has being female got to do with it... They're not excempt ...since when was she the weaker sex ? Equal rights until she gets caught out for being a bastard and then it's a sharp return to old fashioned gallantry and the poor fragile maiden. Do me a favour.

This ^^^^

[Parmy]

Well it wasn't that long.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

Not liking Jason doesn't mean I'm Charlie's biggest fan. But seeing his interaction with Charlie is what has made me not like him. Just like a lot of you don't like Charlie based on her interaction with Jason.

Firstly, we don't know whether she kicked the dog. Why is this being taken as fact? For all we know this could be something Jason lied about. It seems #TeamJason say Charlie is lying but other than the cheating comment which she said THE SAME NIGHT to Jayne was said in the heat of the moment, what has she lied about?

Because Charlie has admitted to lying about Jason cheating ,she admitted she was awful to him during their relationship,she admitted to being a serial cheater and she admitted to hating his dog,so going by that track record I believe Jason and something obviously occurred with the dog as she said she was just shoving it away,LOL,I could also say she LOOKS like an animal abuser as some on here have said Jason LOOKS like a wife beater do they know how stupid that sounds?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

Not liking things about Jason doesn't mean I'm Charlie's biggest fan. But seeing his interaction with Charlie is what's made me question him more. Just like a lot of you don't like Charlie based on her interaction with Jason.

Firstly, we don't know whether she kicked the dog. Why is this being taken as fact? For all we know this could be something Jason lied about. It seems #TeamJason say Charlie is lying but other than the cheating comment which she said THE SAME NIGHT to Jayne was said in the heat of the moment, what has she lied about?

so tell us all what exactly has Jason done wrong? I was asking this on a thread last night,I still haven't had an answer that makes sense.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

so tell us all what exactly has Jason done wrong? I was asking this on a thread last night,I still haven't had an answer that makes sense.

You will NOT receive any VALID answers Kaz love - because there are none. And I know better than most just how long you will be awaiting that valid answer, but in the meantime, the 'Jason bashing' posts will continue - as if you had never posed that question.

It's got something to do with; "I'm right in what I say and I'll continue saying it because I am ignoring YOUR post which proves me wrong".

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You will NOT receive any VALID answers Kaz love - because there are none. And I know better than most just how long you will be awaiting that valid answer, but in the meantime, the 'Jason bashing' posts will continue - as if you had never posed that question.

It's got something to do with; "I'm right in what I say and I'll continue saying it because I am ignoring YOUR post which proves me wrong".

You're right Kirk,it's like hitting your head on a brick wall, and a couple of people saying they wouldn't be surprised if he beat her is frankly moronic and really pissed me off as there is absolutely no proof whatsoever,what exactly does a 'wifebeater' look like?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

Jason is not a villain. Not worse than any of the other housemates. But he's not a saint and not as gentlemanly as he tries (and fails) to portray himself

1) The way he spoke about an ex that the hm never met was ungentleman-like
2) His inability, at 45, to know how to end a relationship is immature
3) His silencing of Charlie, telling her not to speak about him is bewildering
4) His denial that he's not talked badly about her is also bewildering

1) The way he spoke about an ex that the hm never met was ungentleman-like
2) His inability, at 45, to know how to end a relationship is immature
3) His silencing of Charlie, telling her not to speak about him is bewildering
4) His denial that he's not talked badly about her is also bewildering

(1)How so? he said she was a nightmare,sounds like the truth to me,also she has spoken about him that wasn't so nice.
(2)He obviously doesn't want to hurt her anymore than she has been(so much for the wife beater eh?)
(3)Charlie was also shushing him upwhen he was talking,,maybe he's the sort that doesn't like airing his private life in public
(4)he has said nothing wrong imo,he has just reacted to Charlies tantrums.

No one has to like Jason ,but at least dislike him for valid reasons backed up with proof.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

Jason is not a villain. Not worse than any of the other housemates. But he's not a saint and not as gentlemanly as he tries (and fails) to portray himself

1) The way he spoke about an ex that the hm never met was ungentleman-like
2) His inability, at 45, to know how to end a relationship is immature
3) His silencing of Charlie, telling her not to speak about him is bewildering
4) His denial that he's not talked badly about her is also bewildering

1 These are a bit weak tbh,really? lol anyway ,I don't find his remark about her nasty ,they asked who she was he told them

2 Maybe he didn't want to hurt her more than she was ,that's not immature it's caring.

3 Well as we have seen her talking about him is vile,she is a liar so he was probably worried about the lies she would tell.

4,he hasn't talked bad about her infact has he even mentioned her since she left and he could have slated her to high heaven.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

Not liking things about Jason doesn't mean I'm Charlie's biggest fan. But seeing his interaction with Charlie is what's made me question him more. Just like a lot of you don't like Charlie based on her interaction with Jason.

Firstly, we don't know whether she kicked the dog. Why is this being taken as fact? For all we know this could be something Jason lied about. It seems #TeamJason say Charlie is lying but other than the cheating comment which she said THE SAME NIGHT to Jayne was said in the heat of the moment, what has she lied about?

Lied about him cheating
Lied about game player
Lied about when she found out about his daughter....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Lied about him cheating
Lied about game player
Lied about when she found out about his daughter....

Glad someone else remembers all this.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

She admitted she called him a game player, saying that he's washing up etc because he wants to win the show, he wants to get to the final. So how is that lying?

tbh missed her supposedly changing the date she found out about the daughter so have to go over that. will get back to you on that lol
But I heard when Jayne brought up his daughter's existence and that was turned in "Charlie's talking about my personal life...

She admitted she lied? So she lied? lol Owning up to a lie does not mean you didnt lie, it means you admit been a liar. That makes any future things she says very dubious.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

The cheating comment was a lie
The gameplayer comment was not a lie. She said it. Didn't deny she said it. No lie

She DID deny it at first then admitted it when Laytesha pushed it.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

The cheating comment was a lie
The gameplayer comment was not a lie. She said it. Didn't deny she said it. No lie

She did deny saying it was her that called him a gameplayer and blamed Lateysha!
She may have eventually come clean but she lied, simple as.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by sassyfox

Charlie rejected their definition of gameplayer (talking behind people's backs etc) and constantly stated she felt Jason was playing to win - gameplayer - making cups of tea - gameplayer - doesn't want any drama - gameplayer - sort of doing what Alex is doing - gameplayer. Not a nasty, vicious type of gameplayer.


Charlie didn't blame Lateysha. Lateysha called him a gameplayer during the task and Charlie said Lateysha has to own that decision and stick by it.

She can reject all she likes she still lied.
Lateysha called him a gameplayer because that was what Charlie had said to her. When asked she denied saying it altogether, eventually she owned up but said it was because of blah blah blah....
Jason said to Charlie not long after her been in the main house that it was a new experience him seeing her been nice to people but you didnt see him going round calling her a gameplayer to all & sundry.
No matter in what way she meant it, it was always going to have negative connotations.