[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Linda
I never did like her. She's a tw@t.

I asked that question, "Do you like her?"

Simply, because, whoever tells you anything good about Jade Goody. Your ears and eyes are closed to it all.

[lily.]

Is it because I is black?

[lily.]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
....Are you going to blame them all, "mothers" that is?

In a word: Yes

Do I think celebrity mothers are good mothers? For the most part, No.

Do I think they should give up their careers? Not completely, but if they want a family they should be prepared to sacrifice some things.

Some celebrity mothers have actually taken a "career break" to raise their children, at least for the first few years, where they need the structure the most. I admire them for that.

It's not like these "celebrities" can't afford to do it. I took a "career break" to raise my children, and I don't have much money, but I was prepared to sacrifice the money and material things in life for the chance to spend time raising my children properly.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Linda

In a word: Yes

Do I think celebrity mothers are good mothers? For the most part, No.

Do I think they should give up their careers? Not completely, but if they want a family they should be prepared to sacrifice some things.

Some celebrity mothers have actually taken a "career break" to raise their children, at least for the first few years, where they need the structure the most. I admire them for that.

It's not like these "celebrities" can't afford to do it. I took a "career break" to raise my children, and I don't have much money, but I was prepared to sacrifice the money and material things in life for the chance to spend time raising my children properly.

You sound like a good mother.

Many celebrities could do better, agreed! regardless of skin colour, which doesn't come into this.

Jade Goody will do things her way.

Britney Spears will do things her way

Madonna will do things her way.
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You can't change that! But, you can pick holes in what they do and how they do it? However, anyone can say they are the perfect mother, or even near-perfect. But many are not and that is fact!

[~Kizwiz~]

What i find most disconcerting is the fact that she harped on about her kids saftey and how worried she was about them while doing the rounds on the chat shows and daytime tv programmes.

Now I am a mother, if I thought my children were in danger I wouldn't leave their side especially not do try and gain sympathy!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by kizwiz
What i find most disconcerting is the fact that she harped on about her kids saftey and how worried she was about them while doing the rounds on the chat shows and daytime tv programmes.

Now I am a mother, if I thought my children were in danger I wouldn't leave their side especially not do try and gain sympathy!

It is a very difficult choice to have to make.

Balancing the safety of her children and being away from them, but knowing that they are being protected well.

It is a lot different with Jade Goody.

Nobody could compare their situation to her's.

[lily.]

She dug her own grave though. She can't come back from this now.

I don't advocate violence against anyone - celebrity or not. Nor do I agree with the mob-mentality who throw things at her etc.

However, I think career wise, she has pretty much reached a point of no return.

I was never a fan. I didn't like her on BB first time around. I switched the channel when she was on anything else after that, including this year's CBB. I don't really care if her career is in the toilet to be honest. However, she does have enough money to ensure her and her family's financial security, and she could have just concentrated on her family and invested in a business, without being in the public eye all the time.

It seems to me that she craves media attention all the time, and it's more important to her than anything else (including her children). That, my dear, makes her a bad mother.

[Mrluvaluva]

Whatever happened to her salon?

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

It is a lot different with Jade Goody.

Nobody could compare their situation to her's.

And she is different because????

I suppose your going to say that she was in turmoil..... but sorry to burst a bubble..... she brought it on herself. Now I dont condone death thread and such like but the negative media attention that she had was deserved. She behaved atrociously in the house.

[lily.]

Originally posted by kizwiz
..... Now I dont condone death thread and such like .....

Where is this death thread you speak of?

MODERATORS.. shut it down IMMEDIATELY!

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Linda

MODERATORS.. shut it down IMMEDIATELY!

*oopps* my bad.....lol.... could have started world war three there

[Mrluvaluva]

I was thinking of registering again as Stellagirl and having an argument with Linda. What do you think?

[GiRTh]

Do it. but use Cider Hag instead.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Linda
She dug her own grave though. She can't come back from this now.

I don't advocate violence against anyone - celebrity or not. Nor do I agree with the mob-mentality who throw things at her etc.

However, I think career wise, she has pretty much reached a point of no return.

I was never a fan. I didn't like her on BB first time around. I switched the channel when she was on anything else after that, including this year's CBB. I don't really care if her career is in the toilet to be honest. However, she does have enough money to ensure her and her family's financial security, and she could have just concentrated on her family and invested in a business, without being in the public eye all the time.

It seems to me that she craves media attention all the time, and it's more important to her than anything else (including her children). That, my dear, makes her a bad mother.

You are entitled to your opinion! "of course."

Jade Goody is the kind of girl to not listen to opinions from negative Jade-Haters like yourself.

She would say to anybody that criticizes her for being a good mother as untrue.

Many celebrities and career woman have to balance the two and many get things wrong by going more in the direction of a career than time at home with their children.

Jade Goody can easily be judged by you and people like you who are happy to make assumptions of whether Jade has made the right judgement in a career.

Jade has done very well for herself and could easily live off the money she has made. So could many celebrities and high executives who make a massive wage packet.

If Jade chooses to retire or not, that is her decision.

and for those who want to know now? It is watch and wait time my friends/forum members


Also, if your not a fan Linda. You'll get over it....

[lily.]

I am already over it. I was just bored and decided to participate here where everyone else seemed to be yakking...

Originally posted by BAZG
I was thinking of registering again as Stellagirl and having an argument with Linda. What do you think?

What's wrong with arguing with me with your own name? Don't be a pussy! LoL

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Linda
I am already over it. I was just bored and decided to participate here where everyone else seemed to be yakking...

What's wrong with arguing with me with your own name? Don't be a pussy! LoL

Iwouldn't argue with you Linda.

[lily.]

Well you should.. think of it as foreplay...

[Dr43%er]

You are right that jade has every right to pursue her career. Just pack moaning that you cant see your kids. You have free will to make a choice and you chose to not see your kids. Now shut up.

[lily.]

Well Said!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
If Jade chooses to retire or not, that is her decision.

From another post

Originally posted by nodisharmony
If you expected or wanted Jade to just do nothing and keep all the cash and hide away into obscurity.

It will never, ever happen.

Not only are you waffling you now appear to be contradicting your own waffle.

Have you actually got anything concrete to say or are you going to keep this up.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG
Whatever happened to her salon?

You can read this article:-

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_obje...name_page.html

It is a little old, but it gives you the answer to your question.

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20 August 2006
UGLY JADE SHOP GOES BUST
EXCLUSIVE Millionaire's prices 'too expensive
By Caroline Waterston
MILLIONAIRE Jade Goody is shut ting down her beauty salon Ugly's after it failed to take off.

The gobby Big Brother star poured Ł50,000 of her own cash into the shop.

But the 25-year-old mum of two has decided to close it after just a year because it's not making the money she had dreamed of.

Friends believe Jade's prices were too high.

An insider said: "Because of this, clients are limited and it hasn't been as successful as she'd hoped."

Jade - who made a million after taking BB by storm in 2002 - launched the salon in Hertford last September.


She said at the time: "If I can do it, anyone can."


But nowthe business is set to close in January after the Christmas rush.


The insider said: "Jade is gutted. She realises her TV fame and fortune will dry up and thought Ugly's would be a long-term investment."


Jade runs the salon with best pal Carly Walpole.


Facials range from Ł35 to Ł42 and massages are priced between Ł25 and Ł45.


Jade has never been great with cash. She once faced jail over a tax bill, got evicted for rent arrears and lost Ł500,000 in a cheque scam.


An aide said: "Jade swears the parlour's not in debt.


"She is closing it because a nightclub has bought the property above her and she thought that would be a concern for the business."


c.waterston@people.co.uk

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Linda
Well you should.. think of it as foreplay...

Mucky cow

[lily.]

That's me...

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade has done very well for herself and could easily live off the money she has made. So could many celebrities and high executives who make a massive wage packet.

Exactly. She has enough money to disappear back into obscurity where she belongs and look after her children. What does she do instead? Rush off to India in a desperate attempt to save her career? Do the rounds on all the talk shows? What about spending some time with the kids she is always talking about?

[Mrluvaluva]

The thing that gets me, and I'll keep saying this, is that it was said it was a "private" trip which was such blatant lies. If it was private, why was there a bloody press conference for christs' sake?