[the truth]

These are often supplied on the nhs

is this right? is it wrong or ok as it helps her career
or is it all the daily mails fault

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gar-daddy.html

[arista]

No its not the DM fault

And that funding must Stop.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by the truth

These are often supplied on the nhs

is this right? is it wrong or ok as it helps her career
or is it all the daily mails fault

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gar-daddy.html

I don't think they are anymore. The only people who should get them under the NHS are those who have had breast cancer and require reconstructive surgery.

Stupid girls looking for more male attention who claim insecurity and mental health affects due to poor self-image, based on the size of their boobs, should not.

Grow a pair and understand what qualities really make them attractive - it has nothing to do with the size of their boobs.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I don't think they are anymore. The only people who should get them under the NHS are those who have had breast cancer and require reconstructive surgery.

Stupid girls looking for more male attention who claim insecurity and mental health affects due to poor self-image, based on the size of their boobs, should not.

Grow a pair and understand what qualities really make them attractive - it has nothing to do with the size of their boobs.

100% agree .

[Vicky.]

They should only be funded if its for reconstructive surgery after mastectomies and such IMO. Its ridiculous that people could get them for other reasons.

My mother didn't want a reconstitution after her masectomy...she wanted the other breast off (as there was a huge chance it could come back in the other one, so preventative measure aswell as aesthetic) and they wouldn't do it. It was reconstruction or nothing. So she had to go private.

[jaxie]

I don't think any cosmetic surgery is appropriate on the NHS unless it is to reconstruct after accident or illness. It isn't there to mess around with the size of your bosoms.

[smudgie]

Medical reasons only.
Women with oversized breasts that suffer with back pain struggle to get help.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Medical reasons only.
Women with oversized breasts that suffer with back pain struggle to get help.

Yes that's true and by the time they are accepted for a reduction, damage to the spine is already a problem.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Medical reasons only.
Women with oversized breasts that suffer with back pain struggle to get help.

Yes, for some reason funding is fine to make them bigger. But make them smaller...no chance.

Hmm

[DemolitionRed]

What I don't understand is, my sister and her husband have recently been informed by the NHS that getting breast implants for cosmetic reasons (for their daughter) may well be rejected and that my niece may have a battle ahead of her.

My niece has just reached an age where she is body conscious but because she lost her pituitary gland through a brain tumour, she hasn't produced the natural hormones to make her grow or her body develop like a woman. Synthetic hormones have made her grow and made her feel like a young woman but she's still totally flat chested and has boyish hips. Now that she feels like a woman, something she wouldn't feel without these synthetic hormones, she's become very self conscious. She has been told that once she's considered 'fully developed' they may consider breast implants on the NHS but she would have to go through at least a year of therapy about her mental state prior to surgery ever being considered.

Her parents have now told her that they will pay for her to go privately when the time is right, because they don't want make her beg the NHS for something that surely she should be offered on the NHS?

There are definitely exceptions for this procedure to be carried out by the NHS, but it seems that depending on which part of the country you live in, you will be treated differently.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What I don't understand is, my sister and her husband have recently been informed by the NHS that getting breast implants for cosmetic reasons (for their daughter) may well be rejected and that my niece may have a battle ahead of her.

My niece has just reached an age where she is body conscious but because she lost her pituitary gland through a brain tumour, she hasn't produced the natural hormones to make her grow or her body develop like a woman. Synthetic hormones have made her grow and made her feel like a young woman but she's still totally flat chested and has boyish hips. Now that she feels like a woman, something she wouldn't feel without these synthetic hormones, she's become very self conscious. She has been told that once she's considered 'fully developed' they may consider breast implants on the NHS but she would have to go through at least a year of therapy about her mental state prior to surgery ever being considered.

Her parents have now told her that they will pay for her to go privately when the time is right, because they don't want make her beg the NHS for something that surely she should be offered to to her on the NHS?

There are definitely exceptions for this procedure to be carried out by the NHS, but it seems that depending on which part of the country you live in, you will be treated differently.

I would say her case is medical, hardly cosmetic.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What I don't understand is, my sister and her husband have recently been informed by the NHS that getting breast implants for cosmetic reasons (for their daughter) may well be rejected and that my niece may have a battle ahead of her.

My niece has just reached an age where she is body conscious but because she lost her pituitary gland through a brain tumour, she hasn't produced the natural hormones to make her grow or her body develop like a woman. Synthetic hormones have made her grow and made her feel like a young woman but she's still totally flat chested and has boyish hips. Now that she feels like a woman, something she wouldn't feel without these synthetic hormones, she's become very self conscious. She has been told that once she's considered 'fully developed' they may consider breast implants on the NHS but she would have to go through at least a year of therapy about her mental state prior to surgery ever being considered.

Her parents have now told her that they will pay for her to go privately when the time is right, because they don't want make her beg the NHS for something that surely she should be offered to to her on the NHS?

There are definitely exceptions for this procedure to be carried out by the NHS, but it seems that depending on which part of the country you live in, you will be treated differently.

I do feel it is more important to encourage our young women to value themselves as women regardless of shape. Many women are naturally flat-chested but it shouldn't affected how they view themselves as women. Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.

Anyone who judges a woman's attractiveness purely on the size of her mammary glands is surely not worth worrying about. There is far more to a woman than that. Personally I do not view this as disfigurement like losing a breast through illness and don't feel it should qualify for NHS treatment.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I do feel it is more important to encourage our young women to value themselves as women regardless of shape. Many women are naturally flat-chested but it shouldn't affected how they view themselves as women. Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.

Anyone who judges a woman's attractiveness purely on the size of her mammary glands is surely not worth worrying about. There is far more to a woman than that. Personally I do not view this as disfigurement like losing a breast through illness and don't feel it should qualify for NHS treatment.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

TBF natural large boobs wouldn't be top heavy. I think what brillo was getting at was the oversized football right under your neck type fake ones.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Because they look unnatural and unbalanced. They also indicate a lack of confidence in themselves as well as superficial values which can be unattractive.

They can also pose health problems in the future.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Because they look unnatural and unbalanced. They also indicate a lack of confidence in themselves as well as superficial values which can be unattractive.

They can also pose health problems in the future.

You're judging though... can you not see how it makes your post a tad hypocritical?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I do feel it is more important to encourage our young women to value themselves as women regardless of shape. Many women are naturally flat-chested but it shouldn't affected how they view themselves as women. Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.

Anyone who judges a woman's attractiveness purely on the size of her mammary glands is surely not worth worrying about. There is far more to a woman than that. Personally I do not view this as disfigurement like losing a breast through illness and don't feel it should qualify for NHS treatment.

Oh I agree. My husband gets so frustrated with how women are brainwashed into believing beauty and femininity is only skin deep. The problem is, we are brought up with this, it may as well be implanted into our DNA.

I do though, believe that a girl who has grown up with so much illness should have that choice. She told her mum recently that she wished they'd never given her female hormone treatment as its ruined her life. Its not like she's looking for a cleavage; she'd be happy with a 32a.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh I agree. My husband gets so frustrated with how women are brainwashed into believing beauty and femininity is only skin deep. The problem is, we are brought up with this, it may as well be implanted into our DNA.

I do though, believe that a girl who has grown up with so much illness should have that choice. She told her mum recently that she wished they'd never given her female hormone treatment as its ruined her life. Its not like she's looking for a cleavage; she'd be happy with a 32a.

Sorry I don't mean to undermine your neice's situation in any way but I imagine she is probably lovely as she is. She is still young and vulnerable and probably feeling unattractive because of all she has been through but I am not convinced breast surgery would be the answer. If she still feels the same way in a few years maybe the situation could be Reviewed.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.

Anyone who judges a woman's attractiveness purely on the size of her mammary glands is surely not worth worrying about. .

I feel like you just must wander about walking into walls

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

I feel like you just must wander about walking into walls

I feel you could identify with that.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I feel you could identify with that.

I know you are but what am I
Good one

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Over-sized, top-heavy boobs are ugly.
.

Its people who say things like this, (or the complete opposite) who are causing body issues in young women in my opinion. Anti-feminist types.. It happens in magazines, and in pornography, but I think most people with body issues have probably had somebody personally telling them something like this, obviously this effect will be magnified by young women reading stuff like this over the internet.

But the truth is, there will always be young women who will have naturally above average or below average sized chests. And there will always be people, like this user, telling them that they are abnormal. If they get depressed because of people like this, and believe a boob job will make them feel better - then I'm personally all for it. Its a much shorter solution than trying to gather all the negative anti-feminist types and asking them to change their ways and much more cost-effective than providing therapy which I saw somebody suggest.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Its people who say things like this, (or the complete opposite) who are causing body issues in young women in my opinion. Anti-feminist types.. It happens in magazines, and in pornography, but I think most people with body issues have probably had somebody personally telling them something like this, obviously this effect will be magnified by young women reading stuff like this over the internet.

But the truth is, there will always be young women who will have naturally abover average or below average sized chests. And there will always be people, like this user, telling them that they are abnormal. If they get depressed because of people like this, and believe a boob job will make them feel better - then I'm personally all for it. Its a much shorter solution than trying to gather all the negative anti-feminist types and asking them to change their ways.

Ffs I was saying it in relation to this obsession so many young women today have with big fake boobs - why, when they don't even look good when so big. They are often out of proportion with the rest of them, will cause health problems in the future and just make them look desperate. They should like themselves the way the are - there is nothing wrong or unattractive about small boobs, what is wrong with that.

No one is criticising women with natural big boobs. It is the obsession with fake ones we are discussing.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Ffs I was saying it in relation to this obsession so many young women today have with big fake boobs - why, when they don't even look good when so big. They are often out of proportion with the rest of them, will cause health problems in the future and just make them look desperate. They should like themselves the way the are - there is nothing wrong or unattractive about small boobs, what is wrong with that.

No one is criticising women with natural big boobs. It is the obsession with fake ones we are discussing.

Thats less encouraging that youre presuming it is. Lot of young women feel as if their natural boobs are not in proportion with the rest of their body, and youre still suggesting that slimmer women with larger boobs look desperate (although credit where its due, you havent criticised unnatural looking boobs both ways, just the one). Youre literally still encouraging body issues. And many others do too, and these people, in my opinion, are the main issue.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Its people who say things like this, (or the complete opposite) who are causing body issues in young women in my opinion. Anti-feminist types.. It happens in magazines, and in pornography, but I think most people with body issues have probably had somebody personally telling them something like this, obviously this effect will be magnified by young women reading stuff like this over the internet.

But the truth is, there will always be young women who will have naturally above average or below average sized chests. And there will always be people, like this user, telling them that they are abnormal. If they get depressed because of people like this, and believe a boob job will make them feel better - then I'm personally all for it. Its a much shorter solution than trying to gather all the negative anti-feminist types and asking them to change their ways and much more cost-effective than providing therapy which I saw somebody suggest.

Quick fixes are the worst thing they can do. The women you mention have psychological issues that actually have nothing to do with their boobs. They just think big boobs will solve all their problems - they won't.