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Old 12-04-2017, 09:01 AM #1
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Nato should be concentrating on ISIS along with Russia.However brutal Assad is he should not be the target now.That time has passed now.Regime change should now be off the table.
Wiping ISIS out should be the mission for now.
I agree, though I believe ISIS are being wiped by something much bigger than them and that our intervention isn't worth much at all.

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Hopefully Trump is not going for regime change and this was a one off to show that what he says has teeth unlike Obama who said chemical weapons were a "red line" and did nothing and in the process made the US look weak.
Maybe this was a warning to China that he means business and his real target is North Korea.
Or maybe,The scariest option and the one that is supposed to be the truth.He was emotionally overcome by the images of gassed children and reacted to what he saw.That is the most frightening option because it means that he is very easy to manipulate into emotive actions and shows a lack of control.
These terrorist groups have been known to use chemical weapons and have stockpiles.
They can use them whenever they want to call in a US airstrike if the official line and most terrifying version of events is true.

However none of this says very much for Trumps supposed anti interventionist ideology.
I think what we have to accept is, whatever president had got into America, the same thing would of happened. This isn't about Trump, its about western domination so regardless of how Trump feels, his cohorts and other internal pressures will of pushed him towards 'The American Goal'. There was always going to be some things Trump didn't have a choice with and this was one of them.
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I'd like to see the West pull out of the Middle East all together. Leave them to it. And as the West removes their arms and troops, also remove the humanitarian aid because that seems to be forgotten while the West is being generally slagged off.

Pull our people out of the Middle East - it certainly would make my job easier and I'd do much less travelling - and revisit it after it's become a large, smoking crater.

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I'd like to see the West pull out of the Middle East all together. Leave them to it. And as the West removes their arms and troops, also remove the humanitarian aid because that seems to be forgotten while the West is being generally slagged off.

Pull our people out of the Middle East - it certainly would make my job easier and I'd do much less travelling - and revisit it after it's become a large, smoking crater.
Not to mention there no boundaries and aid workers are used as pawns and attacked.

I have mixed feelings, but generally inclined to agree. - why should our brave men and women be sacrificed for what is essentially a lost cause. Nothing ever changes.
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a classical US-executed false flag
a Syrian strike on a location which happened to be storing some kind of gas, possibly chlorine, but most definitely not sarin. This option requires you to believe in coincidences. I don’t. Unless,
the US fed bad intelligence to the Syrians and got them to bomb a location where the US knew that toxic gas was stored.
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a classical US-executed false flag
a Syrian strike on a location which happened to be storing some kind of gas, possibly chlorine, but most definitely not sarin. This option requires you to believe in coincidences. I don’t. Unless,
the US fed bad intelligence to the Syrians and got them to bomb a location where the US knew that toxic gas was stored.
Of course it's sarin... how do we know? We sold them it!!!
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An Iranian reporter in Iraq is good enough for me. Why would a Shiite Muslim reporter lie about what the Shiites are doing to the Sunni's?
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That's what happens when one side is constantly silenced, they give up in the end
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