[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Caroline is performing the best so far. Nic is also doing well

Nicola always does well for me.
I really rate her as a leader.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Not all children go to school for breakfast. Lunch is vital and separates the working day up for the pupils

And those kids that need it will get it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

He is proving he can hold his own.

Hold his own what? UKIP are dead in the water, he should let it go.. He was shown up as a liar and a fraud any confidence anyone had in the man is shattered.

[Kazanne]

Oh Lord fallons life story again

[Greg!]

Tim Farron is SUCH a cringe bag

[RichardG]

more life memories from tim

[Greg!]

Svvzvs drag him Nicky!

[RichardG]

we need something the size of a bus to fit all of tim's stories on

[RichardG]

i don't get the big deal about tuition fees

we don't pay them back until we earn over £21,000 and then the payment amount is minimal

then if it's not paid off by 55 or whatever then it's all scrapped

what's the problem

yeah i'd rather not have the debt but at the same time it's not a big deal imo

[Greg!]

I'm still screaming at when Leanne and Nicola ripped Paul to shreds

[Kazanne]

Would have been better with May and Corbyn there.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hold his own what? UKIP are dead in the water, he should let it go.. He was shown up as a liar and a fraud any confidence anyone had in the man is shattered.

Dead in the water because they didn't do well in the locals. Nether did Corbyn. When did Corbyn last do well. Much of the country have been telling Corbyn to 'let I'd go' and he hasn't listened.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I'm still screaming at when Leanne and Nicola ripped Paul to shreds

I think you try too hard.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think you try too hard.

Someone's fuming that Nutball got dragged to the pits of hell

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Someone's fuming that Nutball got dragged to the pits of hell

In your head.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Dead in the water because they didn't do well in the locals. Nether did Corbyn. When did Corbyn last do well. Much of the country have been telling Corbyn to 'let I'd go' and he hasn't listened.

I think you're a little out of touch nationally tbh.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Nicola always does well for me.
I really rate her as a leader.

She is a Hitler wannabe

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by RichardG

i don't get the big deal about tuition fees

we don't pay them back until we earn over £21,000 and then the payment amount is minimal

then if it's not paid off by 55 or whatever then it's all scrapped

what's the problem

yeah i'd rather not have the debt but at the same time it's not a big deal imo

It's a debt that at 21 seems fine, but down the when you want to get a mortgage or support a family that debt might not be so easy to pay, down the line who is to say they won't move the goalposts on repayment terms, nothing is set in stone

[Cherie]

I had to laugh at Nutall saying he would reinvest cuts to the foreign aid budget in the NHS, the brass neck of him ....im sure any cuts would never get to the NHS

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's a debt that at 21 seems fine, but down the when you want to get a mortgage or support a family that debt might not be so easy to pay, down the line who is to say they won't move the goalposts on repayment terms, nothing is set in stone

You are correct.
Also even if not in a job paying enough to have to be paying the debt back.
It will still be there to be taken into account should anyone be applying for a mortgage etc too.
Which can affect even being granted a mortgage in the first place.

[Ronald.]

Missed this last night I was watching Kat and Alfie - can someone kindly summarise who did well? Thanks. R.

[DemolitionRed]

I missed last night as we were out with friends but I intend to watch it this evening. We did however, arrive home in time to see Question Time and that was pretty good.

I have read some of the Tory manifesto and found this particular section rather chilling.

"The British public deserves to have confidence in our democracy. We will legislate to ensure that a form of identification must be presented before voting, to reform postal voting and to improve other aspects of the elections process to ensure that our elections are the most secure in the world. We will retain the traditional method of voting by pencil and paper, and tackle every aspect of electoral fraud."

Its estimated that 3.5 million http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7742666.html do not have photo ID and won't be able to vote as a result.

Most of these without ID are in the lower income bracket. This will no doubt benefit the Tories.

There are only 2 types of photo ID in the UK and that's driving licence and passport. What if you don't drive and never travel abroad?

[smudgie]

Have the government actually said it would have to be a photo ID, or is it just an assumption made in the article?
If it were to be photo ID then surely it would have to be made easy for those without passports or driving licenses to receive an ID card through the council, as people do for a blue badge.

[DemolitionRed]

The words I quoted were from the Tory manifesto, so its not just hearsay.

The Tories have always wanted a national ID card and I can only presume that this is a way of getting it.

Personally I don't like the idea. Every country that uses them have massive problems with identity fraud. Nobody, as yet, has been able to produce a national ID card that has IT competence and therefore, duplicate identities are common and encryption codes are constantly broken.

Other things about national ID cards are, they are expensive and yet it would be illegal not to carry one. The holder would be entirely responsible for loss, damage or even a faulty card.They Tories have suggesting a heavy fine of up to £1,000 if you fail to carry your card or fail to update it or renew it when its damaged.

Children up to the age of 18 wouldn't have one, immigrants wouldn't have one and it would be impossible for homeless people, because every time you move home, you get fined if you don't update your card.

Also, the cards have a built in tracking device so anyone with the authority to look, can find you, but they can't find terrorists if terrorists aren't British citizens. They can't find illegal immigrants because they won't have them and they can't find children if they go missing.

Its just another stealth tax. Raking it in off those who can ill afford and giving the government yet more control of the people its supposed to be serving.

[joeysteele]

If they insist on people having photo Id to vote,then no one should in a democracy who is old enough to,be denied their full right to do so.
So the Id if made compulsory should be provided free by the govt.

Otherwise scrap this badly presented plan altogether.