[montblanc]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Again you would need to ask her but something about them made her worried enough to call the cops.

I think the 2 men need to have a good hard look at their demeanor and attitude if you ask me

that's a very ignorant thing to say LT

[Denver]

Ypou don't get discriminatied against in the 1st few seconds of being seen

[Amy Jade]

If they two guys were causing trouble and being rude I am sure none of the other customers would have sided with them either.

[Beso]

They refused to leave after the police had asked them to 3 times..they were then arrested and released without charge.

[Kazanne]

A lot of places don't like you using their toilets unless you patronise their business, I also feel a bit rude when I have done it , only ever do it when I've been desperate. but I would never just go and sit in a café etc , just to wait for someone , I would always buy something. This isn't about skin colour, it's about attitude.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

A lot of places don't like you using their toilets unless you patronise their business, I also feel a bit rude when I have done it , only ever do it when I've been desperate but sometimes you just got to go. but I would never just go and sit in a café etc , just to wait for someone , I would always buy something. This isn't about skin colour, it's about attitude.

again with the attitude

again, many other people were sitting without buying anything but they weren't arrested

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by montblanc

again with the attitude

again, many other people were sitting without buying anything but they weren't arrested

It comes down to manners , you either have them or you don't

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It comes down to manners , you either have them or you don't

yeah but why were they singled out and arrested for it when other white people were doing the same thing?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by montblanc

yeah but why were they singled out and arrested for it when other white people were doing the same thing?

Were you their ? I doubt it so you don't know that is fact, they could have said anything that people were not aware of,you don't call the police for nothing.

[Beso]

And starbucks refused a police officer the use of thier facilities last year...

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And starbucks refused a police officer the use of thier facilities last year...

i don't see how that's not relevant to this discussion

if you're trying to compare that to this situation then was that police officer arrested?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by montblanc

i don't see how that's not relevant to this discussion

if you're trying to compare that to this situation then was that police officer arrested?

No, i think he had the decency to think of the paying customers, so he did what any decent person would by dropping it and leaving...

[Ashley.]

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

But she phoned the police!!!

but yeah you're right, the desperation of trying to make these men look guilty is strange.

but the reason is probably obvious.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

They were asked to leave for a reason,they may know these men,they maybe trouble makers,none of us were there so we don't actually have any proof either way, but I really don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off, what would be the point :? shrug: I may have no evidence of attitude just as you have no evidence of them doing nothing.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They were asked to leave for a reason,they may know these men,they maybe trouble makers,none of us were there so we don't actually have any proof either way, but I really don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off, what would be the point :? shrug: I may have no evidence of attitude just as you have no evidence of them doing nothing.

the other people around them said that they were doing nothing

and you saying that you "don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off" is a bit ignorant as you're denying any possibly of some sort of prejudiced judgment against them (or anyone for that matter)

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by montblanc

the other people around them said that they were doing nothing

and you saying that you "don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off" is a bit ignorant as you're denying any possibly of some sort of prejudiced judgment against them (or anyone for that matter)

They probably weren't doing 'nothing' but also no one knows if they said something to the staff or whoever reported them,or maybe they were just asked to leave as they weren't buying anything, there could be several reasons,I wasn't there, it's Starbucks call it's their shop I find it ignorant to assume that it was because they were 'black'. It could well be something as simple as Starbucks have a rule about the toilets being for customers only,lots of shops etc have that policy, I am not denying anything and neither am I assuming .

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They probably weren't doing 'nothing' but also no one knows if they said something to the staff or whoever reported them,or maybe they were just asked to leave as they weren't buying anything, there could be several reasons,I wasn't there, it's Starbucks call it's their shop I find it ignorant to assume that it was because they were 'black'. It could well be something as simple as Starbucks have a rule about the toilets being for customers only,lots of shops etc have that policy, I am not denying anything and neither am I assuming .

if it even was that simple that doesn’t justify asking people to leave or arresting them if they had only asked to use the restroom

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They were asked to leave for a reason,they may know these men,they maybe trouble makers,none of us were there so we don't actually have any proof either way, but I really don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off, what would be the point :? shrug: I may have no evidence of attitude just as you have no evidence of them doing nothing.

Witnesses stated that they'd done nothing wrong, they have no reason to lie/defend these men. Which is more evidence than you seem to be showing to back up your assumptions.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.y.../amp/517779002

[Beso]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.y.../amp/517779002

[Denver]

Only people who hate the black race will think those men had a attitude

[Denver]

80% of the American police are racist scum

[Beso]

So you walk into a small shop and ask to use the bog but get told no its for paying customers only.....what do you do?

Walk out and try the next one?

Or stand about menacingly after being asked to leave....still obviously bursting on that pee you so desperately need that you couldnt take your pishyness away from everyone to the actual toilet toilet probably 20 yards away...


And if that bloke was meeting them, and not just talking out his arse causing more damage than good with his actions then am mary poppins.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So you walk into a small shop and ask to use the bog but get told no its for paying customers only.....what do you do?

Walk out and try the next one?

Or stand about menacingly after being asked to leave....still obviously bursting on that pee you so desperately need that you couldnt take your pishyness away from everyone to the actual toilet toilet probably 20 yards away...


And if that bloke was meeting them, and not just talking out his arse causing more damage than good with his actions then am mary poppins.

They were sitting down, actually.

Who mentioned menacingly, anyway? No proof of that whatsoever.