[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The PM is a clown and the whole government are stupid?

this isnt twitter

Come on LT, you can't argue with reasoned, well thought out debate like that.

[arista]

Parliament opens on Tuesday
do it then.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Dont be obtuse. Did germany or france rush to join Iraqi war?
Theres alliance and theres being up america' rectum.
We know what is Britain's preference

nope, Germany/France aren't that closely involved in that Iraqi war


our dutch foreign minister btw had stated we are gonna pull out our boats in the area, out of caution and risk of being attacked now because of America's crimes

[bots]

if it escalates into a proper war with the USA against Iran then the NATO countries are duty bound to come to the assistance of the USA. That is the whole point about NATO. People really should be more aware of the world they live in

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if it escalates into a proper war with the USA against Iran then the NATO countries are duty bound to come to the assistance of the USA. That is the whole point about NATO. People really should be more aware of the world they live in

and then what, putting themselves into danger


and as for that last sentence, i am aware of what world we live in, also Trump is in the wrong here

like i earlier stated, you should Always try to negotiate at a neutral location first of all, and only kill a major military official as a last resort, and i mean Trump's ''negotiating'' with the both korea's was a by the media called success so what is the difference here then


since North Korea also was a same (or even worse) nuclear threat towards the US, and now also a threat possibly when Kim had stated they are working on new strategic weapons

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Come on LT, you can't argue with reasoned, well thought out debate like that.

Twitter is how trump conducts most of his business, so where's the insult..
Does reasoned well thought out debate now only consist of scoffing at the contributions of others while not providing one of your own?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Twitter is how trump conducts most of his business, so where's the insult..

Does reasoned well thought out debate now only consist of scoffing at the contributions of others while not providing one of your own?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

and then what, putting themselves into danger


and as for that last sentence, i am aware of what world we live in, also Trump is in the wrong here

like i earlier stated, you should Always try to negotiate at a neutral location first of all, and only kill a major military official as a last resort, and i mean Trump's ''negotiating'' with the both korea's was a by the media called success so what is the difference here then


since North Korea also was a same (or even worse) nuclear threat towards the US, and now also a threat possibly when Kim had stated they are working on new strategic weapons

with respect Nicky, there is not a chance in hell that any western country is going to side with Iran over the USA in a war. Of course nobody wants a war. The USA and Iran don't want a war either, but these things happen. For years, Iran has committed terrorist atrocities against the west. They are becoming more and more active, something had to be done and taking out a terrorist general seems like a reasonable step to me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

[Kazanne]

Been listening to a debate on this on LBC this morning it seems a lot of Iranians are glad he has been killed from what they were saying he was a 'bad' man over 1500 young people were killed due to him plus hundreds more Americans etc,even his own people ,so if all this is accurate,it's good he is no more,imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Twitter is how trump conducts most of his business

no he does not that is patently a false statement

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

with respect Nicky, there is not a chance in hell that any western country is going to side with Iran over the USA in a war. Of course nobody wants a war. The USA and Iran don't want a war either, but these things happen. For years, Iran has committed terrorist atrocities against the west. They are becoming more and more active, something had to be done and taking out a terrorist general seems like a reasonable step to me.

Iran does not want a war, they now just want justice served to those who killed their general


also your statement of ''terrorist general'' makes no sense, since he in recent years fought against ISIL terrorists, extremists in smaller Iraqi cities

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Been listening to a debate on this on LBC this morning it seems a lot of Iranians are glad he has been killed from what they were saying he was a 'bad' man over 1500 young people were killed due to him plus hundreds more Americans etc,even his own people ,so if all this is accurate,it's good he is no more,imo.

Yes I am aslo listening and have been since the attack and many callers from Iran and Iraq have said the same

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes I am aslo listening and have been since the attack and many callers from Iran and Iraq have said the same

Callers *allegedly* from there.

This is how easy it is to justify murder without trial, drone strikes and acts of war.

Appeal to the gullible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Iran does not want a war, they now just want justice served to those who killed their general


also your statement of ''terrorist general'' makes no sense, since he in recent years fought against ISIL terrorists, extremists in smaller Iraqi cities

According to US intelligence he was plotting (another) imminent attack on US citizens. What do you want the US to do.

If Dutch intelligence knew that this man was about to kill 1000 people in your town what would you want done....nothing?

[Nicky91]

''If'' and ''Could'' are big words though

this isn't a game where you can just call out drone strikes based upon thoughts

Trump is playing with US citizens their lives, and ironically when trying to save them from what they believe a imminent attack, by killing this general, he might've just put diplomats, military personnel stationed there at military bases in the middle east, and personnel at navy boats there in more danger

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no he does not that is patently a false statement

Look at his tweets over the last 24hrs. . The last one referring to himself in the third person is classic!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

''If'' and ''Could'' are big words though

this isn't a game where you can just call out drone strikes based upon thoughts

Trump is playing with US citizens their lives, and ironically when trying to save them from what they believe a imminent attack, by killing this general, he might've just put diplomats, military personnel stationed there at military bases in the middle east, and personnel at navy boats there in more danger

Are you trying to pretend military intelligence does not exist now??

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Look at his tweets over the last 24hrs. . The last one referring to himself in the third person is classic!

your statement was false, trying to style it out wont make that change...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Been listening to a debate on this on LBC this morning it seems a lot of Iranians are glad he has been killed from what they were saying he was a 'bad' man over 1500 young people were killed due to him plus hundreds more Americans etc,even his own people ,so if all this is accurate,it's good he is no more,imo.

Yes a number 2 to the nation
Evil as hell.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

According to US intelligence he was plotting (another) imminent attack on US citizens. What do you want the US to do.

If Dutch intelligence knew that this man was about to kill 1000 people in your town what would you want done....nothing?

According to US intelligence, Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and we know how that turned out.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

According to US intelligence, Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and we know how that turned out.

That was Corrupt New Labour Blair
and USA GW Bush.


Not the same staff now
silly

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

That was Corrupt New Labour Blair
and USA GW Bush.


Not the same staff now
silly

The US has been pulling the same stunt for over a century.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

your statement was false, trying to style it out wont make that change...

I stand by my comment ...his tweets over the last 24hrs just prove what I suggested

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Are you trying to pretend military intelligence does not exist now??

no just saying you need concrete hard evidence


military intelligence does exist i agree, so if there was concrete evidence of those ''imminent attack'' as they say then yes a drone strike is justified


to answer your hypothetical question, if dutch intelligence has proof of my town being attacked, yes take action to prevent that from happening


i mean if CIA followed their evidence, leads what they did have pre 9/11 they could've prevented the attacks on the world trade center, pentagon and the deaths on board flight 93 of united airlines

there was video footage from the airport the terrorists boarded the planes from, also prior to 9/11 they found documented evidence of attack plotting on a laptop in a motel, at phillippines including airplane hijacking schemes for 9/11

just a example, how crucial it is you follow the evidence