[Mokka]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

independent woman and because of that she rebelled imo and didn’t want to be told what to do and how to behave.

Why should a grown mature woman be told what to do or how to behave? The very notion is laughable.

You talk about these two women like we are back in the 1800s. The way you are referring to Kate makes her sound like a battered housewife who dare not step out of turn.

Royalty or not... have we not come out of this type of regressive era yet??

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Why should a grown mature woman be told what to do or how to behave? The very notion is laughable.

You talk about these two women like we are back in the 1800s. The way you are referring to Kate makes her sound like a battered housewife who dare not step out of turn.

Royalty or not... have we not come out of this type of regressive era yet??

Because becoming part of the Royal Family you take on a role or job if you like aswell as being a wife, husband, mother, father so your response is niave. Any job or firm you take or join has rules, dress code, expected behaviour and that includes the Royal Family because perhaps you can appreciate they are not just any family. The priviliges you get...a home, chefs, dressers, cleaners...it goes on and on. They want for nothing and it all gets paid by the tax payer.
Sadly there are a generation of people who think they can just dive in and do things the way they want to with NO RESPECT for anybody but themselves.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Because becoming part of the Royal Family you take on a role or job if you like aswell as being a wife, husband, mother, father so your response is niave. Any job or firm you take or join has rules, dress code, expected behaviour and that includes the Royal Family because perhaps you can appreciate they are not just any family. The priviliges you get...a home, chefs, dressers, cleaners...it goes on and on. They want for nothing and it all gets paid by the tax payer.
Sadly there are a generation of people who think they can just dive in and do things the way they want to with NO RESPECT for anybody but themselves.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Because becoming part of the Royal Family you take on a role or job if you like aswell as being a wife, husband, mother, father so your response is niave. Any job or firm you take or join has rules, dress code, expected behaviour and that includes the Royal Family because perhaps you can appreciate they are not just any family. The priviliges you get...a home, chefs, dressers, cleaners...it goes on and on. They want for nothing and it all gets paid by the tax payer.
Sadly there are a generation of people who think they can just dive in and do things the way they want to with NO RESPECT for anybody but themselves.

What you are describing is an outdated institution, not a job. A job allows you to bring your own expertise, knowledge, creativity, and individuality to it in order to complete a service or task that adds value to society. Any job you work is a two way contract and they can hire you and fire you... alternatively you can accept the job or quit.

You are describing ownership. Getting married doesn't mean your partner, their family, or the general public own you. Society has changed and evolved beyond this and the monarchy must to.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Josy

State of this thread... honestly you are all as bad as each other.

I've cleaned up, stick to the thread topic and stop with the personal comments. Thanks.

Josy coming in to scrub the palace floors

[jet]

Meghan the ‘strong independent woman’ - not really…..do your research folks….

Her father worked hard to send her to the top schools and university in LA.
Her Uncle got her her first job placement.
Her fathers influence as an award winning lighting director got her parts in game shows and hallmark movies.
Her film producer first husband Trevors influence got her the part in Suits. Suits was the pinnacle of her success in acting and not even widely known.

Then she went after Harry…(covered in previous posts!) Now Prince Charles is subsidising her and Harry and she is living in a mansion lent to them by some billionaire which her Mummy Doria has now moved into as well.

So strong and independent she couldn’t stand the inevitable flak that Diana and even Fergie got a hundred times over and all that boring royal work and ran off home to Mummy and LA to live rent free in a mansion in addition to taking Daddy in law’s hand outs.


Strong, independent woman - no. Unless being a whinging diva who uses the latest woke excuse to bail out when she had no intention of staying in the UK to begin with is seen as strong and independent nowadays….

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Then she went after Harry…(covered in previous posts!) Now Prince Charles is subsidising her and Harry and she is living in a mansion lent to them by some billionaire which her Mummy Doria has now moved into as well.

So strong and independent she couldn’t stand the inevitable flak that Diana and even Fergie got a hundred times over and all that boring royal work and ran off home to Mummy and LA to live rent free in a mansion in addition to taking Daddy in law’s hand outs. .

So strong and independent to you is taking tax payer handouts for ribbon cutting and freely accepting abuse from the press?

Erm.... ok.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So strong and independent to you is taking tax payer handouts for ribbon cutting and freely accepting abuse from the press?

Erm.... ok.

There is a lot more to being a senior member of the Royal Family than ribbon cutting, as Meghan found out and quickly bailed. It's hard boring work.
All high profile people get abuse from the press occassionally, especially when they seem to thrive on attention, as Meghan does. She left the UK for a quiet life, right?, but she keeps popping up by jumping on the latest bandwagon like clockwork or suing people.
Strong people just ignore the press clamour, like the Queen and Kate, who is said to have a spine of steel. I can well believe it, with 19 patronages, sporting organizations, and her and Wills own foundation to take care of, plus 3 young children. Thats what I call strong and independent,earning your keep, and all that.... not sponging off billionaires and celebs like Oprah you didn't even know previously for accomodation and work who wouldn't give you the time of day if you were just that whats - her - name actress in that legal drama thingy that her ex got her into.

Once again, it will be the influence of others who will get her something to do.
Watch this space.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Meghan the ‘strong independent woman’ - not really…..do your research folks….

Her father worked hard to send her to the top schools and university in LA.
Her Uncle got her her first job placement.
Her fathers influence as an award winning lighting director got her parts in game shows and hallmark movies.
Her film producer first husband Trevors influence got her the part in Suits. Suits was the pinnacle of her success in acting and not even widely known.

Then she went after Harry…(covered in previous posts!) Now Prince Charles is subsidising her and Harry and she is living in a mansion lent to them by some billionaire which her Mummy Doria has now moved into as well.

So strong and independent she couldn’t stand the inevitable flak that Diana and even Fergie got a hundred times over and all that boring royal work and ran off home to Mummy and LA to live rent free in a mansion in addition to taking Daddy in law’s hand outs.


Strong, independent woman - no. Unless being a whinging diva who uses the latest woke excuse to bail out when she had no intention of staying in the UK to begin with is seen as strong and independent nowadays….

I love that she bothers you SO much. An impactful Queen

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I love that she bothers you SO much. An impactful Queen

Reality check glenn, it’s a forum, people give opinions on people.

You don’t have to be bothered by someone to have an opinion on them.
But this is what you do, try and make it about the forum member.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Meghan the ‘strong independent woman’ - not really…..do your research folks….

Her father worked hard to send her to the top schools and university in LA.
Her Uncle got her her first job placement.
Her fathers influence as an award winning lighting director got her parts in game shows and hallmark movies.
Her film producer first husband Trevors influence got her the part in Suits. Suits was the pinnacle of her success in acting and not even widely known.

Then she went after Harry…(covered in previous posts!) Now Prince Charles is subsidising her and Harry and she is living in a mansion lent to them by some billionaire which her Mummy Doria has now moved into as well.

So strong and independent she couldn’t stand the inevitable flak that Diana and even Fergie got a hundred times over and all that boring royal work and ran off home to Mummy and LA to live rent free in a mansion in addition to taking Daddy in law’s hand outs.


Strong, independent woman - no. Unless being a whinging diva who uses the latest woke excuse to bail out when she had no intention of staying in the UK to begin with is seen as strong and independent nowadays….

Well you make some very good points there Jet..

[Marsh.]

She didn't listen.... Harry didn't give her time....

Unless you know them it's useless gossip. Still not justification for her treatment.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

The press are treating her the same horrible way they treated our beautiful Princess Diana.

Nonsense, the majority of the press in the main adored Diana, and any criticism was justified as was the praise she deservedly often received, it was mainly the paparazzi who hounded her.
When have you ever seen a pap shot of Meghan being surrounded and harrassed? Never. She was protected.
In the Uk it is illegal to take pics of royal children now too.
So Harry says he took his wife and child away from the UK to protect them...and goes to LA where the press and paps have a free for all. Makes no sense at all. When they emerge from isolation its going to be interesting....they will be kept busy with all that suing they seem so fond of, its lucrative stuff..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Meghan the ‘strong independent woman’ - not really…..do your research folks….

Her father worked hard to send her to the top schools and university in LA.
Her Uncle got her her first job placement.
Her fathers influence as an award winning lighting director got her parts in game shows and hallmark movies.
Her film producer first husband Trevors influence got her the part in Suits. Suits was the pinnacle of her success in acting and not even widely known.

Then she went after Harry…(covered in previous posts!) Now Prince Charles is subsidising her and Harry and she is living in a mansion lent to them by some billionaire which her Mummy Doria has now moved into as well.

So strong and independent she couldn’t stand the inevitable flak that Diana and even Fergie got a hundred times over and all that boring royal work and ran off home to Mummy and LA to live rent free in a mansion in addition to taking Daddy in law’s hand outs.


Strong, independent woman - no. Unless being a whinging diva who uses the latest woke excuse to bail out when she had no intention of staying in the UK to begin with is seen as strong and independent nowadays….

Originally Posted by jet

Nonsense, the majority of the press in the main adored Diana, and any criticism was justified as was the praise she deservedly often received, it was mainly the paparazzi who hounded her.
When have you ever seen a pap shot of Meghan being surrounded and harrassed? Never. She was protected.
In the Uk it is illegal to take pics of royal children now too.
So Harry says he took his wife and child away from the UK to protect them...and goes to LA where the press and paps have a free for all. Makes no sense at all. When they emerge from isolation its going to be interesting....they will be kept busy with all that suing they seem so fond of, its lucrative stuff..

Back with more nonsense.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Back with more nonsense.

Still in denial then? Or is love really blind?

[Ammi]

...sadly, discussions about Meghan always end up the same so I think it’s run it’s course for me, I will never understand the levels of ‘anti-Meghan’ feelings which the media have stoked and encouraged ...Racial undertones have most definately played a part and she’s American and she’s an actress and she was older and she was a divorcee and she wasn’t Kate and she wasn’t Diana ...and the list goes on...it’s fascinating how individuality is praised and applauded until individuality is right there and then it’s condemned...I think for me actually,
Ann Widdecombe’s thoughts on BB were a good representative of the dislike or mistrust toward Meghan before she was given a chance...’..I think she’s trouble, background, attitude etc...’...and when pushed, there was no reasoning for that ‘just a feeling’, she had prejudged her with suspicion and not given her a level chance....in my experience through life, when initial thoughts are so negative or suspicious or dubious or whatever...?..then every action and word is viewed from that slant...and that I think is how it’s been for Meghan...it would have been too humanly exhausting to have spent her time trying to please the UK media and the U.K. public because she couldn’t ‘do better’ when she wasn’t doing anything wrong in the first place...she just didn’t fit their ‘Royal Mould’ and never would and I’m glad that Harry’s first care has been to support and protect her......

....she’s not Kate, she shouldn’t be compared to Kate...they’re two different people and although they’re married to brothers, their roles have always been different...’female V female’ seems to be something that some tabloids and public do as well...I like both, they’re both fairly terrific ladies and comparing them in the negative way that it’s often been done has been very damaging, I feel...anyways, I’m glad that Harry and Meghan have made decisions for their family’s wellbeing, for their happiness now and going forward....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Still in denial then? Or is love really blind?

Love?
I think you'll find there's only one of us feeling passionate emotions about 2 people we don't know, strong enough to continue to fuel hateful essays about them.

And it's.... you.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Love?
I think you'll find there's only one of us feeling passionate emotions about 2 people we don't know, strong enough to continue to fuel hateful essays about them.

And it's.... you.

LOL.

Oh give over with the high drama, you trouble maker you.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Back with more nonsense.

Well at least its content is far more interesting than those that just give a one line dig at everyone constantly and an inability to debate.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well at least its content is far more interesting than those that just give a one line dig at everyone constantly and an inability to debate.

You mean like you? Hypocrisy doesn't suit you.

[Tom4784]

The UK press is considered among the worst in the world, plenty of the celebs and people who have fallen victim to it have said so. Chances are that both Harry and Megan get more respect from the US press than they do from the UK press so it's strange to slate them for moving and expect them to tolerate vicious bullying and harassment at it's hands.

People hashtag be kind but they don't seem to want to take it on board.

[Moniqua]

all this one sided hatred of a woman so above you in terms of class, regality and decorum will do no favours to you in the long run @ the crusties and dusties of this thread

it’s no secret that hateful white people age like milk...but do you i guess?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

it’s no secret that hateful white people age like milk...but do you i guess?

...says someone who calls out everyone as a racist

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

all this one sided hatred of a woman so above you in terms of class, regality and decorum will do no favours to you in the long run @ the crusties and dusties of this thread

it’s no secret that hateful white people age like milk...but do you i guess?

Do you honestly think everybody who isn't in favour/isn't a fan of Meghan is a racist? What about the many black people who are anti-royal and have no time for Meghan whatsoever? Are they racist too?

[Liam-]

Meghan hasn’t done anything wrong that we can actually judge, all the information people get of her come from anonymous sources used by rags desperate to sell papers and get clicks, nothing sells more than making up lies about a confident, outspoken woman, especially a minority one.