[Crimson Dynamo]

she wasnt murdered

the court has decided on this

having heard all the evidence

case closed

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she wasnt murdered

the court has decided on this

having heard all the evidence

case closed

That's not for you to tell people tbf

Courts have got cases wrong many many times and even wrongfully imprisoned tons of people who then get convictions overturned

So if you feel the case is closed then the thread probably isnt for you but you dont have the right to tell others what to think of it or not to discuss it etc

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's not for you to tell people tbf

Courts have got cases wrong many many times and even wrongfully imprisoned tons of people who then get convictions overturned

So if you feel the case is closed then the thread probably isnt for you but you dont have the right to tell others what to think of it or not to discuss it etc

A grand jury is simply a legal procedure to determine if there is sufficient evidence in a criminal matter to reasonably result in a conviction at a criminal trial. No findings are made on points of fact or law. Grand Jury proceedings are secret, therefore records can not be made possible to even consider an appeal.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

A grand jury is simply a legal procedure to determine if there is sufficient evidence in a criminal matter to reasonably result in a conviction at a criminal trial. No findings are made on points of fact or law. Grand Jury proceedings are secret, therefore records can not be made possible to even consider an appeal.

Doesnt mean they are always correct, human error happens at all levels

[Tom4784]

She was intentionally shot to death by police that broke into her home unannounced while she was asleep. That sounds like murder to me, might not sound like murder to someone intent on making out a paramedic to be a drug dealer just because she's black though.

[Kizzy]

Exactly, I hope the family can appeal.

[bots]

Cases are re-opened all the time, the fact that there may not have been the evidence available at the time for an indictment, doesn't mean that there can't be in the future. It was not a trial

[Crimson Dynamo]

and if the officer had been found guilty of murder would anyone be making these points?

i suspect not

(just my opinion of course)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and if the officer had been found guilty of murder would anyone be making these points?

i suspect not

(just my opinion of course)

Well no because there would have been some justice served.

Nobody should be allowed to break into a perfectly innocent persons home and shoot them in their bed, not even an on duty police officer... especially not an officer, as they are more aware than most of the rule of law.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kizzy

well no because there would have been some justice served.

Nobody should be allowed to break into a perfectly innocent persons home and shoot them in their bed, not even an on duty police officer... Especially not an officer, as they are more aware than most of the rule of law.

they had a search warrant issued by a judge

[arista]

Tonight it was not on her neck


She is a Trouble maker

[user104658]

Insufficient evidence of guilt =/= evidence of innocence. I don't know what people find so hard to understand about that, it's a pretty simple piece of the legal puzzle.

In all honesty in this case I think the evidence points to manslaughter through extreme recklessness and professional negligence but honestly, when we're talking about heavily armed and supposedly trained individuals, I actually find that much ****ing scarier than an intentional killing. "It's not out fault! We didn't MEAN to shoot an innocent woman, we just blunder around with guns blazing and sometimes random people get hit by the bullets OK??"

That kind of negligence leading to a death is EASILY justification for a sentence as harsh as murder, in my opinion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Insufficient evidence of guilt =/= evidence of innocence. I don't know what people find so hard to understand about that, it's a pretty simple piece of the legal puzzle.

In all honesty in this case I think the evidence points to manslaughter through extreme recklessness and professional negligence but honestly, when we're talking about heavily armed and supposedly trained individuals, I actually find that much ****ing scarier than an intentional killing. "It's not out fault! We didn't MEAN to shoot an innocent woman, we just blunder around with guns blazing and sometimes random people get hit by the bullets OK??"

That kind of negligence leading to a death is EASILY justification for a sentence as harsh as murder, in my opinion.

How much of the trial evidence did you read?

[Cherie]

Amanda had her breasts out tonight so Ofcom will be busy tomorrow

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Amanda had her breasts out tonight so Ofcom will be busy tomorrow

The tape on that dress to hold it where it should be looked painful

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The tape on that dress to hold it where it should be looked painful

It looked really uncomfortable, don’t know why she puts herself through that

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Amanda had her breasts out tonight so Ofcom will be busy tomorrow

if you complain about a silly necklace, you can also validly complain about that yes

there is children watching this show

[Oliver_W]

It does sound more like manslaughter, because they were returning fire after Taylor's boyfriend shot at them, as he thought they were intruders. But they fired blind, as she was standing behind a covered patio thing, which is why she was hit.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It does sound more like manslaughter, because they were returning fire after Taylor's boyfriend shot at them, as he thought they were intruders. But they fired blind, as she was standing behind a covered patio thing, which is why she was hit.

I don’t think Alesha’s necklace shot anyone

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don’t think Alesha’s necklace shot anyone

it shot everyone with a bolt of self righteousness

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it shot everyone with a bolt of self righteousness

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It does sound more like manslaughter, because they were returning fire after Taylor's boyfriend shot at them, as he thought they were intruders. But they fired blind, as she was standing behind a covered patio thing, which is why she was hit.

That makes it sound like the police were defending themselves although they intruded on someone's property without announcing themselves, leading to one of the owners of that property defending themselves against intruders. What a load of ****ing ****.

The police invaded someone's house, they shot it up and they murdered an innocent woman with a bright future and blamed it on the boyfriend who was just defending his property, if he was white, he would be the ****ing darling of the Right Wing for doing so.

[bots]

murder has to be intentional, and that wasn't. George Floyd was murder to my mind

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

murder has to be intentional, and that wasn't. George Floyd was murder to my mind

Well leaving someone to bleed out for 20 minutes without calling for medical help can be classified as murder

[bots]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Well leaving someone to bleed out for 20 minutes without calling for medical help can be classified as murder

no it cant, you are making it up as you go along. The problem was with the no knock warrant, which has now been withdrawn in that state