[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes as is their Bear Sofa for £19,000


The sofa is made by British craftsmen who build wooden frames ready to be hand-sprung, hand-stitched and webbed using feather and down cushions

I would like one

and the red wine stains would be easy to wash off

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's simple enough if you read things properly.

The second post re 25% has in addition to being heartless etc, the line they'd support the Cons ' immaterial of the consequences'.

Very simple.

so around 6 percent are heartless AND will vote Conservative no matter what?

25% are just heartless but may vote Green?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I would like one

and the red wine stains would be easy to wash off

Its a sofa one would expect at Number 10 and may as well get one that lasts

[Beso]

I would have got it in blue

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so around 6 percent are heartless AND will vote Conservative no matter what?

25% are just heartless but may vote Green?

I think with respect you need to look at your own figures.
The Cons in the last 3 elections have taken on or over 40% of the votes cast.

So where your 6% comes into play I've no idea.

I was talking about Con voters only.
To keep it simple.
Of the 40% who may vote Con.

I consider from my own view,30% are heartless and extreme harder line voters.
Immaterial of the consequences I don't consider more than 5% would not vote Con immaterial of consequences to others or Nation.
Hence my 25% figure left.

That leaves around 10% WHO VOTE Con, who are what I'd term a softer Con vote.
Whose opinions may alter.

It's my own view only obviously.

However the figures you've thrown up leave far more questions as to where you've got them from.
Considering the Cons got around 43% in the 2019 election.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

interesting that people call him Boris

rather than Johnson

Not many politicians get called by their Christan name..

Not Me
he is Johnson PM

[Liam-]

I just call him twat, it’s easier for everyone

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

How can some of you downplay Boris saying he'd rather see dead bodies in the street than close primark yet you're absolutely furious Meghan Markle took her kid for a walk?

There is no proof he did say it,people just go by what the media feed them and depending on who they like or follow will agree or disagree, it seems ok for people to believe this and have a pop at him, but people get up in arms if people dont believe MM and have a pop at her ? personally i don't care either way until there is solid proof of anything, and there isn't as yet,

[Crimson Dynamo]

As for Boris Johnson’s loose tongue, one thing I have learned over 40 years in journalism
is never pay much attention to what people say. Watch what they do.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...covid-blunder/

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As for Boris Johnson’s loose tongue, one thing I have learned over 40 years in journalism
is never pay much attention to what people say. Watch what they do.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...covid-blunder/

Yep ,actions speak louder than words

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yep ,actions speak louder than words

Oh well, in that case, that presents another horrible aspect as to him then, in my view.

Robert Peston is usually extremely careful on his sources and what he reveals he's learned from his generally very reliable sources, his view hasn't come from the media but from those who say they actually heard him say it.
Who are, in the right scenario prepared to swear on oath he did if necessary.

That's not just the media, no matter how much people spin it.
Plus it's Con supporting media who are saying it too.
Or are they only right as long as they were tearing Labour, Corbyn and the Milibands deceased Father to bits.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh well, in that case, that presents another horrible aspect as to him then, in my view.

Robert Peston is usually extremely careful on his sources and what he reveals he's learned from his generally very reliable sources, his view hasn't come from the media but from those who say they actually heard him say it.
Who are, in the right scenario prepared to swear on oath he did if necessary.

That's not just the media, no matter how much people spin it.
Plus it's Con supporting media who are saying it too.
Or are they only right as long as they were tearing Labour, Corbyn and the Milibands deceased Father to bits.

in what context was it said?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

in what context was it said?

What a ridiculous question when you know fine well I wouldn't be there.

I personally don't care a jot as to the context.
To even think of saying it, never mind actually doing so, in humour, to look big, in fury or totally meant.
Is grossly sick from a Prime Minister with over 100,000 people losing their lives.

You can admire and support him for that of course if you like and if you do
I find it despicable.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I would like one

and the red wine stains would be easy to wash off

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What a ridiculous question when you know fine well I wouldn't be there.

I personally don't care a jot as to the context.
To even think of saying it, never mind actually doing so, in humour, to look big, in fury or totally meant.
Is grossly sick from a Prime Minister with over 100,000 people losing their lives.

You can admire and support him for that of course if you like and if you do
I find it despicable.

"I personally don't care a jot as to the context."


i see...

[Beso]

Sometimes in a rage, or in sheer frustration people will shout out the daftest things.They never really mean it though, and their future actions end up showing that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Sometimes in a rage, or in sheer frustration people will shout out the daftest things.They never really mean it though, and their future actions end up showing that.

private convo

not policy

just a bat for the haters to hit him with

[rusticgal]

I think he could have said it....if he did obviously he wasn’t being serious.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think he could have said it....if he did obviously he wasn’t being serious.

He may have been though as well, cause to save us all from ruin, that's what may have had to happen at one point.

His actions however spoke a thousand volumes for me, not his words.

People listened to him about lockdown, I would often be hearing people say, "let's see what boris has got to say first" hes led us through this you know, it's probably why the sticks are coming out now. One final jeremyesque attempt at defamation.

We must have all thought about that at some point in this mad journey, the day we may have had to come to about ruin or deaths

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Its very rude to slate people for thier political stances...very very rude. And certainly uncalled for.

Not everyone the same.

If you're clutching your pearls over what I said but are perfectly fine with Boris and co ****ting all over you, you're part of the problem.

The public have enabled the tories time and time again, they are utterly spineless.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

There is no proof he did say it,people just go by what the media feed them and depending on who they like or follow will agree or disagree, it seems ok for people to believe this and have a pop at him, but people get up in arms if people dont believe MM and have a pop at her ? personally i don't care either way until there is solid proof of anything, and there isn't as yet,

You almost had it, almost.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you're clutching your pearls over what I said but are perfectly fine with Boris and co ****ting all over you, you're part of the problem.

The public have enabled the tories time and time again, they are utterly spineless.

WHo are "the public?"


everyone but not you?

your contempt for anyone who isnt you is astounding

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

WHo are "the public?"


everyone but not you?

your contempt for anyone who isnt you is astounding

What's astounding is this weak ass attempt at baiting. 'I'm gonna insult Dezzy by making out that I'm incompetent at reading!' Outstanding move .

[arista]

[arista]