[Crimson Dynamo]

until you own property, pay a pension, council tax, put your own bins out own a car and have kids im sorry you have no earthly clue as to what is going on in life

[bots]

kids generally have less to worry about now than they did in previous generations, hence why they have time to involve themselves in things like climate change. A tough life is what forces kids to grow up quickly

[James]

PR is Emperor's New Clothes, in my opinion.

It won't make people any more satisfied with the outcome of elections.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by James

PR is Emperor's New Clothes, in my opinion.

It won't make people any more satisfied with the outcome of elections.

But it is unquestionably more democratic.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

But it is unquestionably more democratic.

Bollocks

Starmer is only going to change it
to stay in Power.
Sod their rights

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Bollocks

Starmer is only going to change it
to stay in Power.
Sod their rights

No it's to stop any arrogant leader and Party governing in a hard-line fashion being heartless too after only getting 43.6% of the votes meaning around 56% of people who even bothered to vote, voting against them.
For said arrogant power mad leader having absolute power with ridiculously over inflated overall majorities.

The ONE and ONLY Party against PR is the Con Party and it's more heartless, hard-line supporters because they know they could never likely get power to be as heartless and hard-line again under PR.

It's coming from Labour, maybe not as policy in the coming election but it's coming.
I'm sure of that in a future one.
Whether under Starmer or if necessary a NEW leader.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Bollocks

Starmer is only going to change it
to stay in Power.
Sod their rights

So you're admitting that a more democratic voting system adversely affects your favourites?

Starmer staying in power isn't ideal for me, neither would Southend being represented represented by Britain first for example, but it's still more democratic than what we currently have.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

So you're admitting that a more democratic voting system adversely affects your favourites?

Starmer staying in power isn't ideal for me, neither would Southend being represented represented by Britain first for example, but it's still more democratic than what we currently have.

Even if Southend didn't vote for a Britain First MP? Because under PR there's no guarantee that a seat would be represented by the party the seat's majority voted for. Unless the seats are allocated by votes-per-area, aka what we have now, basically.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

So you're admitting that a more democratic voting system adversely affects your favourites?

Starmer staying in power isn't ideal for me, neither would Southend being represented represented by Britain first for example, but it's still more democratic than what we currently have.

Of voters polled Slim.
Of all the Parties who get elected and don't get elected to Westminster.
Even the N.Irish DUP.

The vast majority now prefer PR to this dinosaur system we have now.

I repeat, it's ONLY the Con Party and it's hard-line supporters who don't want PR because they know, they've then had their day of hard-line, divisive, discriminating,heartless near dictatorial governing.

[James]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

But it is unquestionably more democratic.

The advantage of it is that people would likely get to vote for an (electable) party that more closely matches their views.

But the problem is that no party is likely to gain a majority on their own, so they have to do deals after the election and compromise on what they promised.

So while people would get to vote for parties whose policies they like better, they'll just never get to see them implemented.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by James

The advantage of it is that people would likely get to vote for an (electable) party that more closely matches their views.

But the problem is that no party is likely to gain a majority on their own, so they have to do deals after the election and compromise on what they promised.

So while people would get to vote for parties whose policies they like better, they'll just never get to see them implemented.

Voters don't get that now James.

56% voted AGAINST near ALL the Cons stood for in 2019 yet got it inflicted on them with his obscene 80 overall majority.

[Livia]

They could always turn off Twitter. Radical, I know...

[Oliver_W]

Social media is pretty toxic, especially for the young. Nothing of value would be lost if they all closed down.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Social media is pretty toxic, especially for the young. Nothing of value would be lost if they all closed down.

It Connects Families
so it will stay.


But you are right to point out
the negative part of social media
is wrecking young lives

[bots]

i always cite italy as a wonderful example of what PR can achieve, a system to be envied across the world.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i always cite italy as a wonderful example of what PR can achieve, a system to be envied across the world.

We are a different Country bots.

Many Nations elect government's by PR and it works well enough.
This system we have in my view only really fails, you can't have and shouldn't have, absolute power with a minority of total votes cast.

No matter what governnent it is.