[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s still too early for knowing details of the attacker but he is known to the Australian police authorities apparently and known to have had mental health issues….this is part of the most recent CNN article…


‘A law enforcement source briefed on the investigation told CNN the suspect had no prior contact with Australian counterterrorism officials, but had had at least one encounter with New South Wales Police in the past related to mental health issues.’

Now that he isn't a Muslim, the story will become about a loner with MH issues.

No questioning whether the Torah is to blame, no calls for every Jewish person on earth to denounce him, no questions about whether or not he'd been radicalised by Rachel Riley. It's just the way it goes.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Now that he isn't a Muslim, the story will become about a loner with MH issues.

No questioning whether the Torah is to blame, no calls for every Jewish person on earth to denounce him, no questions about whether or not he'd been radicalised by Rachel Riley. It's just the way it goes.

Hopefully the Jewish community will denounce him.

Why would any community want to be associated with this lunatic?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It was a radical Jewish terrorist, named Benjamin Cohen. Apologies to those of you using the murder of innocents to prop up your racism.

"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims."

The actual attacker, shot dead by police, was later identified as Joel Cauchi, 40. The authorities say his actions were most probably related to his mental health.

Within hours of Mr Boikov's post on X, the false claims he amplified had reached hundreds of thousands of people on X and Telegram, and had even been repeated by a national news outlet.

I tracked him down because I want to understand how his posts triggered an online frenzy that reached the mainstream media - with serious consequences for Mr Cohen, who's described his distress at being accused of an attack he had nothing to do with.

Mr Boikov is speaking to me from the Russian consulate in Sydney, to where he fled more than a year ago after a warrant was issued over his arrest for alleged assault. The pro-Kremlin social media personality was granted Russian citizenship by Russian President Vladimir Putin last year - and has requested political asylum in Russia.

He wasn't the first user to mention the name Benjamin Cohen. It appeared to originate on a small account sharing almost exclusively anti-Israel content.

This is one of the ways disinformation now spreads.

Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims."

The actual attacker, shot dead by police, was later identified as Joel Cauchi, 40. The authorities say his actions were most probably related to his mental health.

Within hours of Mr Boikov's post on X, the false claims he amplified had reached hundreds of thousands of people on X and Telegram, and had even been repeated by a national news outlet.

I tracked him down because I want to understand how his posts triggered an online frenzy that reached the mainstream media - with serious consequences for Mr Cohen, who's described his distress at being accused of an attack he had nothing to do with.

Mr Boikov is speaking to me from the Russian consulate in Sydney, to where he fled more than a year ago after a warrant was issued over his arrest for alleged assault. The pro-Kremlin social media personality was granted Russian citizenship by Russian President Vladimir Putin last year - and has requested political asylum in Russia.

He wasn't the first user to mention the name Benjamin Cohen. It appeared to originate on a small account sharing almost exclusively anti-Israel content.

This is one of the ways disinformation now spreads.

Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

You literally couldn't make it up

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

"I never falsely suggested anything," Simeon Boikov tells me.

Under the alter ego "Aussie Cossack", he posted untrue speculation that a 20-year-old Jewish university student was the attacker who had stabbed and killed five women and one man at a Westfield shopping centre in Sydney.

He said on X: "Unconfirmed reports identify the Bondi attacker as Benjamin Cohen. Cohen? Really? And to think so many commentators tried to initially blame Muslims."

The actual attacker, shot dead by police, was later identified as Joel Cauchi, 40. The authorities say his actions were most probably related to his mental health.

Within hours of Mr Boikov's post on X, the false claims he amplified had reached hundreds of thousands of people on X and Telegram, and had even been repeated by a national news outlet.

I tracked him down because I want to understand how his posts triggered an online frenzy that reached the mainstream media - with serious consequences for Mr Cohen, who's described his distress at being accused of an attack he had nothing to do with.

Mr Boikov is speaking to me from the Russian consulate in Sydney, to where he fled more than a year ago after a warrant was issued over his arrest for alleged assault. The pro-Kremlin social media personality was granted Russian citizenship by Russian President Vladimir Putin last year - and has requested political asylum in Russia.

He wasn't the first user to mention the name Benjamin Cohen. It appeared to originate on a small account sharing almost exclusively anti-Israel content.

This is one of the ways disinformation now spreads.

Full story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-68822846

…..and as the article states, that disinformation is spread in different tangents and directions…which is sadly often the way…I often say that ‘voices get lost…’…and what actually gets lost in it all is the truth…lost in the agenda of political stuff etc…

In parallel, false claims were circulating that the attacker was Muslim. These were shared by prominent journalists and political accounts on X with hundreds of thousands of followers from the UK to the US.
British journalist and presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer suggested the stabbings were "another terror attack by another Islamist terrorist", while TV presenter Rachel Riley said it was part of a "Global Intifada". They both later retracted their posts.
Hartley-Brewer posted that she had been "incorrect" and that the Sydney massacre "was not an Islamist terror attack", while Riley said she was "sorry" if her message had been "misunderstood".
Dozens of accounts on TikTok also spread false claims that the attacker was Muslim. I messaged several of them - but they haven't responded.

…and interestingly, it continues in another direction and another path…


New South Wales Police have suggested the real attacker, Cauchi, deliberately targeted women - who make up five out of six of the victims.
Several online forums dedicated to incels - a subculture who define themselves as unable to get a sexual partner, despite desiring one - have praised Cauchi as one of their own for the attack.
But so far there's no concrete evidence of Cauchi being involved directly with these online movements. When asked why Cauchi could have targeted women, his father said that his son had "wanted a girlfriend" and that had had "no social skills and was frustrated out of his brain".
Increasingly, attacks in the real world are being followed by this kind of social media frenzy - where misinformation is hugely amplified.
For the families and friends of those who have been killed, and the innocent bystanders falsely accused, this toxic rumour-mill is causing serious harm.


….it may indeed be ‘incel idealogy’…but nothing atm has been confirmed and associated as that being so until investigations reveal such…I read that the killer’s parents were ‘estranged’ so even though, his father has intimated certain things…or things he’s said could lead to certain thoughts…atm, it’s essentially all hearsay and surmising in what seems to be a need for labels to be applied…

…anyway, we’ll wait to see what is uncovered and revealed over the coming time…this is why personally I’m so focused on checking out everything that’s posted online atm…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…..and as the article states, that disinformation is spread in different tangents and directions…which is sadly often the way…I often say that ‘voices get lost…’…and what actually gets lost in it all is the truth…lost in the agenda of political stuff etc…

In parallel, false claims were circulating that the attacker was Muslim. These were shared by prominent journalists and political accounts on X with hundreds of thousands of followers from the UK to the US.
British journalist and presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer suggested the stabbings were "another terror attack by another Islamist terrorist", while TV presenter Rachel Riley said it was part of a "Global Intifada". They both later retracted their posts.
Hartley-Brewer posted that she had been "incorrect" and that the Sydney massacre "was not an Islamist terror attack", while Riley said she was "sorry" if her message had been "misunderstood".
Dozens of accounts on TikTok also spread false claims that the attacker was Muslim. I messaged several of them - but they haven't responded.

…and interestingly, it continues in another direction and another path…


New South Wales Police have suggested the real attacker, Cauchi, deliberately targeted women - who make up five out of six of the victims.
Several online forums dedicated to incels - a subculture who define themselves as unable to get a sexual partner, despite desiring one - have praised Cauchi as one of their own for the attack.
But so far there's no concrete evidence of Cauchi being involved directly with these online movements. When asked why Cauchi could have targeted women, his father said that his son had "wanted a girlfriend" and that had had "no social skills and was frustrated out of his brain".
Increasingly, attacks in the real world are being followed by this kind of social media frenzy - where misinformation is hugely amplified.
For the families and friends of those who have been killed, and the innocent bystanders falsely accused, this toxic rumour-mill is causing serious harm.


….it may indeed be ‘incel idealogy’…but nothing atm has been confirmed and associated as that being so until investigations reveal such…I read that the killer’s parents were ‘estranged’ so even though, his father has intimated certain things…or things he’s said could lead to certain thoughts…atm, it’s essentially all hearsay and surmising in what seems to be a need for labels to be applied…

…anyway, we’ll wait to see what is uncovered and revealed over the coming time…this is why personally I’m so focused on checking out everything that’s posted online atm…

The difference is some poor kid was actually named and his name falsely circulated....there were only 'suggestions' it was an Islamic terror attack, no one was named, and it is only human to immediately think Islamic given the nature of the attack similar to how immediately it would have been concluded it was an IRA attack if a bomb when off in the 70s in England and no one batted an eyelid

[Ammi]

…but that doesn’t change that these are all threads and paths of disinformation and how easily that travels into mindsets, which once fixed can often then close down to what is the truth…it’s all very equally contributory to very harmful false information…and sadly what is all too often in present times…

[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe we need more women like this..

https://x.com/Red_Pill_US/status/1779199859943485778

[user104658]

I have heard that he's the ex-partner of the first woman attacked (possibly the one with the baby) and he initially set out just to kill her, but then started attacking others as well. Of course, for the most part, other women.

As a disclaimer, I may have been misinformed and don't have a verified source on this.

[Ninastar]

I don’t think it’s just 10%

IMHO I think it’s more

[Crimson Dynamo]

**puts kettle on

[Crimson Dynamo]

What is a jihad in Islam?

Jihad - from Reliance of the Traveller (Shaji'ite Islamic Law), means to "war against non- Muslims ... to establish the religion (of Islam)."

Also understood as "just war" or "holy war." No other definition of 'jihad'' has ever existed at any point in history in any authoritative Islamic Law.




wow

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What is a jihad in Islam?

Jihad - from Reliance of the Traveller (Shaji'ite Islamic Law), means to "war against non- Muslims ... to establish the religion (of Islam)."

Also understood as "just war" or "holy war." No other definition of 'jihad'' has ever existed at any point in history in any authoritative Islamic Law.




wow

I mean, that's just not factually accurate, my brother. I don't know what to tell you.

Jihad does have multiple meanings. My definition is the way it is most commonly used within the community.

[thesheriff443]

I wish death on any man woman or child that would take the life of an innocent person.

[bots]

jihad has different meanings depending on the person or group saying in the same way that we use the word war, it can be a war of words, it can be a war of ideals, it can be a violent and bloody event

[Jordan.]

Well

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Well

Well UserSince2005 came close with the name.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well UserSince2005 came close with the name.

Honestly I impress myself sometimes

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Honestly I impress myself sometimes

Joel and Mohammed sound so much alike don't they?

[Ammi]

…there was no connection with any of his victims, then…?…and he’d only just moved to that area very recently…it’s not being reported atm as to how he was known to the police and why they immediately spoke of mental health issues…had he shown violence before…?…has there been any previous arrests or prosecutions etc…I guess we’ll know more over the next few days…

[arista]

Yes
[The man who killed six people in a
horror mass stabbing at Westfield Bondi Junction
has been identified as 40-year-old Joel Cauchi.

The Queensland man was shot dead at the scene.]

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ice-karen-webb

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Ninastar]

I’m just glad he’s dead

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I’m just glad he’s dead

Yes
he killed Women
and stabbed a baby




So it was great the
One Police Officer working
was an Armed Lady Police Officer.

Stopping him from attacking her.