[bots]

A pub doesn't need to provide any reasons to bar you and unless the money thing has written documentation detailing the loan, there is no case. Also, any legal action will cost more than the amount you are talking about

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bots

A case for what?

X2

Kate, there is no case here. What did the CAB say?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I’d cook for them. And see what provisions I had for them as I have done before.

I’d also point them to places which could help them long-term.

I agree with you Benjamin, and unfortunately it looks like this bingo lady has issues....if she can twist things around like that & blatantly lie and cry like that.


In certain situations,I think it's best to be on the safe side and not always part with your cash. It definitely can muddy the waters .

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

X2

Kate, there is no case here. What did the CAB say?

They said there was because I hadn't been allowed to give my side of the story. They said I'd have been within my rights to get the police. It was her word against mine. I've already explained earlier in the thread that she gave me the money as a thank you and I did not ask to borrow it. She's a bare faced liar. I hate that. She turned on the waterworks and made me look extremely bad. Some friend she turned out to be.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

They said there was because I hadn't been allowed to give my side of the story. They said I'd have been within my rights to get the police. It was her word against mine. I've already explained earlier in the thread that she gave me the money as a thank you and I did not ask to borrow it. She's a bare faced liar. I hate that. She turned on the waterworks and made me look extremely bad. Some friend she turned out to be.

Awful friend. Drop her

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I've spoken with Citizens Advice and they said I have a case, they are going to recommend me a legal aid solicitor. I'm seriously thinking about it.

I wouldn’t even bother going down this route and I’m kinda struggling how there can be some sort of case here tbh.

If I were you Kate and apologies for sounding blunt but I’d cut ties with the so called “friend” because she must be a pretty awful person to do something like that and just find a different pub to go to. There must be other pubs local to you that you can enjoy?

Wouldn’t bother trying to take this further or anything because it’s more hassle for you than what it’s actually worth. (Just my opinion of course )

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Dogeatdog

I wouldn’t even bother going down this route and I’m kinda struggling how there can be some sort of case here tbh.

If I were you Kate and apologies for sounding blunt but I’d cut ties with the so called “friend” because she must be a pretty awful person to do something like that and just find a different pub to go to. There must be other pubs local to you that you can enjoy?

Wouldn’t bother trying to take this further or anything because it’s more hassle for you than what it’s actually worth. (Just my opinion of course )

I agree with Dog, it’ll be more hassle than it’s worth and may not even bring you any outcome you’re hoping for.

[GiRTh]

Agree with these guys. Theres no case Kate. As for the police, unless one of you claims the money was stolen, the police will not get involved. Any kind of agreement for a loan etc is not a criminal matter.

[bots]

i'm sorry but if a landlord chooses to prevent you from entering his bar, he is entitled to do so. He doesn't need a reason, he doesn't need to listen to both sides, and i'm sure Citizens advice would have told you this

It does feel to me that you are only giving out one small portion of a story here. Why must you go to that pub in particular?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by bots

i'm sorry but if a landlord chooses to prevent you from entering his bar, he is entitled to do so. He doesn't need a reason, he doesn't need to listen to both sides, and i'm sure Citizens advice would have told you this

It does feel to me that you are only giving out one small portion of a story here. Why must you go to that pub in particular?

I'm sorry but that's the whole story. That's all there was to it? The friendship is now over. As for the pub, I like it. I like the food, the atmosphere is good. I did nothing wrong to merit being excluded. I am rightfully annoyed.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I'm sorry but that's the whole story. That's all there was to it? The friendship is now over. As for the pub, I like it. I like the food, the atmosphere is good. I did nothing wrong to merit being excluded. I am rightfully annoyed.

but its not your pub. The landlord decides who can enter, and he doesn't need to provide any reason to exclude you

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by bots

but its not your pub. The landlord decides who can enter, and he doesn't need to provide any reason to exclude you

Yes, but to repeat, I did nothing at all wrong. And I wasn't aggressive, I just left the pub very quickly. It's very unfair. I don't expect you'd like it if it happened to you.

[Kate!]

I can't believe people are implying I've no right to be annoyed I've been excluded for something I simply didn't do.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I can't believe people are implying I've no right to be annoyed I've been excluded for something I simply didn't do.

What were you accused of doing?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

What were you accused of doing?

My so called friend gave me ten pounds as a treat because I helped her out financially last week and then turned on the waterworks to the bar staff and said she'd lent it to me and I wouldn't give it back. So they barred me. She made me look really bad. It's all in the thread, you haven't even read it?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

My so called friend gave me ten pounds as a treat because I helped her out financially last week and then turned on the waterworks to the bar staff and said she'd lent it to me and I wouldn't give it back. So they barred me. She made me look really bad. It's all in the thread, you haven't even read it?

No need for that Kate. I'm trying to help but the details are a little confusing. At one point you said that both of you had given money as a gift so forgive me if I'm not up on all the facts. Thanks for restating the issue.

SO the accusation was that the money given to you was a gift and not a loan. How did the pub get involved? Was the money give by you ever considered a loan or was it just the money you received not the money you gave.?

EDIT: See how confusing it is. I got it wrong. That should read the "accusation was that the money given to you was a loan and not a gift.

[Liam-]

Let’s try not to waste government funded legal help on being barred from a private business shall we

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I can't believe people are implying I've no right to be annoyed I've been excluded for something I simply didn't do.

I understand your frustration here. I was in a situation before where a pub kicked me and my friends out for rolling tobacco. They thought we was rolling weed. I even remember saying to them that if we were doing that, wouldn’t it be stupid to be doing it directly on the table and secondly you would actually smell it as well.

They kicked us out and instead of taking it further we just thought sod it there’s another pub 15 mins away, let’s just go there instead. There’s no point staying angry about it just find somewhere else you can enjoy.

Didn’t return to that pub for years afterwards and I remember my cousin saying once that he was in there with a few of his friends and they legit wanted to kick them out for laughing.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

No need for that Kate. I'm trying to help but the details are a little confusing. At one point you said that both of you had given money as a gift so forgive me if I'm not up on all the facts. Thanks for restating the issue.

SO the accusation was that the money given to you was a gift and not a loan. How did the pub get involved? Was the money give by you ever considered a loan or was it just the money you received not the money you gave.?

No. Sorry GiRTh, I just feel like people are getting at me.

Ok to clarify, the money I gave her last week was a gift. 25 pounds. I didn't want it back. Then she gave me 10 in the pub, and said here's a treat to say thank you. So.i accepted it. Later she involved the bar staff by going crying to them saying I'd asked.to borrow it and wouldn't give it back. On those grounds they barred me.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Let’s try not to waste government funded legal help on being barred from a private business shall we

Excuse me. Would you not be aggrieved if you were barred for something you hadn't done? Because somebody lied about you?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No. Sorry GiRTh, I just feel like people are getting at me.

Ok to clarify, the money I gave her last week was a gift. 25 pounds. I didn't want it back. Then she gave me 10 in the pub, and said here's a treat to say thank you. So.i accepted it. Later she involved the bar staff by going crying to them saying I'd asked.to borrow it and wouldn't give it back. On those grounds they barred me.

Thanks for clearing it up.

Can I ask how did she involve the bar staff ? I'm still at a loss at how the pub got involved. Was there an argument between the two of you? How did they get to know about the situation then bar you?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thanks for clearing it up.

Can I ask how did she involve the bar staff ? I'm still at a loss at how the pub got involved. Was there an argument between the two of you? How did they get to know about the situation then bar you?

No there was no argument. She went to the bar and cried crocodile tears and made the allegation. We were all confused when the manager came over and kicked me out.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No there was no argument. She went to the bar and cried crocodile tears and made the allegation. We were all confused when the manager came over and kicked me out.

She sounds awful did you see this type of behaviour before from her? When the landlord kicked you out did he say it was because of what the other woman said. I still think it was a bit of an overreaction for them to bar just you so I'm fishing for anything else that might have happened to influence their decision

[AnnieK]

Did any of the other ladies hear her say the money was a treat? I can't see what kind of legal case you could have but if the pub is part of a brewery, you could write to the Head Office and make a formal complaint against the barring and see if they will reverse it, giving the reasons you think you were unfairly dealt with if you don't think it's worth speaking again to the landlord now the dust has settled.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She sounds awful did you see this type of behaviour before from her? When the landlord kicked you out did he say it was because of what the other woman said. I still think it was a bit of an overreaction for them to bar just you so I'm fishing for anything else that might have happened to influence their decision

No she's always been absolutely lovely. I was confused and shocked. He said I'd upset a customer and told me to leave and not come back. The others.were confused as well as she gave me the money discreetly so they didn't know what on earth was going on. I did try to speak but he just walked away so I left.