[Mystic Mock]

We really are in a sensitive society when a Big Brother Housemate is getting a warning over a joke.

I don't care if people like the joke or not, the intent from Sarah wasn't malicious so therefore BB should not be intervening and policing what a Housemate can and cannot say.

And I really can't wait for Hanah to face the public vote next time.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

We really are in a sensitive society when a Big Brother Housemate is getting a warning over a joke.

I don't care if people like the joke or not, the intent from Sarah wasn't malicious so therefore BB should not be intervening and policing what a Housemate can and cannot say.

And I really can't wait for Hanah to face the public vote next time.

I weirdly think if the vote to win opens tomorrow both Hanah and Sarah would get a few extra votes from both sides of the camp over this.

[Jordan.]

The comment directly offended a group of people in the house, why would they ignore it?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

The comment directly offended a group of people in the house, why would they ignore it?

So what if a bunch of Housemates get offended?

They can always nominate her next time if they don't like the comment, that's the aim of Big Brother.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So what if a bunch of Housemates get offended?

They can always nominate her next time if they don't like the comment, that's the aim of Big Brother.

BB has never given housemates free reign to be as offensive as they want, especially after the race row.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

BB has never given housemates free reign to be as offensive as they want, especially after the race row.

Jokes are allowed Jordan, even unpopular ones.

BB got it wrong on this one.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Jokes are allowed Jordan, even unpopular ones.

BB got it wrong on this one.

Easy to say when you aren't the target of the joke.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Jokes are allowed Jordan, even unpopular ones.

BB got it wrong on this one.

You can see how Hanah would be offended though, this imo is justified unlike Dean's ridiculous accusation towards Marcello. And it proves if Marcello ever said anything offensive, he also would have been given a warning . So weirdly this has cleared Marcello's name aswell lol .

I'm not getting into the whole immigration thing...as I agree about her copying a slogan,but how it was in bad taste ,but it's clearly very sensitive to people, especially those affected ...and Sarah didn't think ie
foot in mouth ,as the comment was aimed at Hanah/ Hanah's group.

Hence Hanah taking it personally. Plus Hanah half joked " is it because we're all coloured" &
Sarah joked back " yes ". It felt so cringe . As Sarah mixed up the comments & situations anyway.

Then they mentioned Thomas being part of the group, and Emma made a Casper joke . It's such a spectacular misunderstanding.

I think Sarah has spent too much time with Nathan,hence why she said it was a" word on play ".

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So what if a bunch of Housemates get offended?

They can always nominate her next time if they don't like the comment, that's the aim of Big Brother.

It’s different when there are racial connotations, though, Mock. I don’t think Sarah intended to come across that way and it really is most-likely what she says it is but I really don’t think you can expect Sarah not to get a talking to for making a comment that could potentially be seen as offensive, whether that’s how she meant it or not. We all have the capacity to offend people and no-one’s above a talking-to about it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

It’s different when there are racial connotations, though, Mock. I don’t think Sarah intended to come across that way and it really is most-likely what she says it is but I really don’t think you can expect Sarah not to get a talking to for making a comment that could potentially be seen as offensive, whether that’s how she meant it or not. We all have the capacity to offend people and no-one’s above a talking-to about it.

No, BB has no right to tell a Housemate what they can and can't joke about, there is no rule on BB that says that they can either.

But even if there was, it would still be wrong.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

No, BB has no right to tell a Housemate what they can and can't joke about, there is no rule on BB that says that they can either.

But even if there was, it would still be wrong.

Like I said, it was just common decency, Mock. If I said something that potentially came across as offensive in such a fundamentally serious way and I didn’t mean it like that, I’d want to know about it, if nothing else to prevent future misunderstandings and square it with an apology there. Racism and xenophobia are too serious for things like that (intentional or not, and I really do believe it was unintentional in the case of Sarah) to just be wrapped up as a joke. It’s just like making an allusion to black people being monkeys because Segun or Makosi ate a banana. It might not be intended but if it comes across as potentially racially offensive, it’s only right to be called up on that. And, again, it’s easy to dismiss these things as “just a joke” when you’re not part of a group that’s been historically marginalised or oppressed but you’ve just got to have that awareness and understand how what you say might come across as a certain way to someone from that group. So far as your intentions are good and it’s not truly beyond the bounds of what could be understood as a joke from either side, hopefully that’s as far as it goes, and as for as B.B. is concerned that is the end of the matter where Sarah’s involved. It wasn’t a punishment. It was just a quiet word.

I know you don’t mean any harm yourself but I’m really not going to agree with you on this one.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

The comment directly offended a group of people in the house, why would they ignore it?

Being "offended" is just an opinion, and opinions shouldn't affect anything

(unless an actual slur or something is used)

[UserSince2005]

Those 3 are everything wrong with this country

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Those 3 are everything wrong with this country

I hope that you're not meaning it in a certain way?

Because I'm annoyed at BB more than anything, although Hanah running into the Diary Room moaning to BB about Sarah probably didn't help.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I hope that you're not meaning it in a certain way?

Because I'm annoyed at BB more than anything, although Hanah running into the Diary Room moaning to BB about Sarah probably didn't help.

We need more kemi badenocks and less whiney, low inteligent, low skilled, losers who’s only talent is playing the victim to scrounge every last penny off the great British public.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

We need more kemi badenocks and less whiney, low inteligent, low skilled, losers who’s only talent is playing the victim to scrounge every last penny off the great British public.

Tbf the three that you've mentioned are still quite young, you don't know what they might end up contributing to society.

In particular Khaled and Segun both sound ambitious with what they want to do for society.

I admittedly don't know what Hanah wants to do.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

We really are in a sensitive society when a Big Brother Housemate is getting a warning over a joke.

I don't care if people like the joke or not, the intent from Sarah wasn't malicious so therefore BB should not be intervening and policing what a Housemate can and cannot say.

And I really can't wait for Hanah to face the public vote next time.

It wasn't Stop the Gloats which she was told off for. It was freely admitting it's links to "Stop the Boats" which is a sensitive subject for many, due to the way it has been picked up by the political right. It has additional connotations which those of minority background (some, not all) may feel offended by. I can understand why it upset whilst I can also accept that Sarah didn't mean it to offend.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

It wasn't Stop the Gloats which she was told off for. It was freely admitting it's links to "Stop the Boats" which is a sensitive subject for many, due to the way it has been picked up by the political right. It has additional connotations which those of minority background (some, not all) may feel offended by. I can understand why it upset whilst I can also accept that Sarah didn't mean it to offend.

I have no issues with anyone (public included) feeling offended or not liking the joke.

What I don't like is BB giving her a warning over it, if Sarah wants to make controversial comments then let her.

I used to think this when Rex complained to BB over Alexandra's "Pow! Pow!" comment during BB9.

It's meant to be a social experiment, not a sanitized Disney production.

[GlitterUK]

Has the actual footage been shown when she actually said it? Did anyone pick up on it then? Or has BB just picked the task and gloats comment to create a storm before the final week?

What Sarah said has offended people. So I think BB were right to warn her....however Lily's screaming has also offended Sarah and they have done nothing.

[GlitterUK]

I think the opposite Hanah dealt with it well. She could have kicked off and created a bigger stink. This way BB had a quiet word. Be interesting to see if we see Sarah apologise in the next show or anything.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think the opposite Hanah dealt with it well. She could have kicked off and created a bigger stink. This way BB had a quiet word. Be interesting to see if we see Sarah apologise in the next show or anything.

Oh she absolutely will apologise and she’ll feel like **** for it too. She meant no ill intent and you can tell she’s the kind of person who will take it badly.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think the opposite Hanah dealt with it well. She could have kicked off and created a bigger stink. This way BB had a quiet word. Be interesting to see if we see Sarah apologise in the next show or anything.

She knows the ability to play the racist card is the ultimate power in BB and no further noise is required. Acting offended is enough.

Hanah isn't stupid. She understands how this works.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by vesavius

She knows the ability to play the racist card is the ultimate power in BB and no further noise is required. Acting offended is enough.

Hanah isn't stupid. She understands how this works.

I agree.

[Jordan.]

She said in the show why she wouldn't confront Sarah over the comment and she was 100% correct in her reasoning.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

She said in the show why she wouldn't confront Sarah over the comment and she was 100% correct in her reasoning.

If Sarah kicks off over being confronted then that tells everyone watching the Show that Sarah is an idiot that can't handle people having issues with her conduct.