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Old 18-07-2025, 08:57 AM #1
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fundamental changes like this lead to many unforseen knock on effects. For example voting at 16 legitimately increases the expectations of 14 year olds to be considered adults . What will that lead to? It's shifting everything closer to breaking pont
I don't think it will really. The logic behind this if you're old enough to pay taxes, join the Army and contribute to society in terms of the running of it, you should be able to vote.
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No issue with a 12 year olds being thrust into national press for politically motivated reasons and giving speeches at far right rallies, but allowing 16 year olds to vote is "stealing their childhood" and making "vulnerable people suffer".... I am dead. This has to be a parody.
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No issue with a 12 year olds being thrust into national press for politically motivated reasons and giving speeches at far right rallies, but allowing 16 year olds to vote is "stealing their childhood" and making "vulnerable people suffer".... I am dead. This has to be a parody.
if you are mocking me for questioning what effect this has on 14 year olds, i'm not going to be impressed
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if you are mocking me for questioning what effect this has on 14 year olds, i'm not going to be impressed
My post isn't directed at you, though I don't agree with this having any impact of 14 year olds.
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12 yr olds to dumb to write a speech, suddenly become mature enough to vote a mere 4 years later.
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12 yr olds to dumb to write a speech, suddenly become mature enough to vote a mere 4 years later.
Her dad said on Twitter ChatGPT wrote the speech.
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It is hard to avoid the conclusion that this is little more than cynical gerrymandering at a time when Reform are pulling ahead in the polls. That Labour has introduced the policy because it perceives most young people to be Left leaning, and it is therefore in the party’s political interests.

It’s hardly surprising when pupils are constantly subjected to unionised, socialist secondary school teachers – and the apparent Left-wing bias on social media. This, combined with the amount of online fake news that is shoved down the throats of people my age means most 16-year-olds don’t yet know how to think critically for themselves. They too often exist in hollow echo chambers and follow the herd, largely because alternative opinions have been silenced. Are they seriously ready to be unleashed at the ballot box?

If 16-year-olds aren’t permitted to stand as candidates then why should they be permitted to choose which candidate to vote for? I am not permitted to buy alcohol, marry or go to war without my parents’ permission. I cannot even buy a lottery ticket – yet I can pick a Prime Minister? It is incoherent.

When people do not understand politics they search for the clearest messaging, be it saving the planet or a return to what the Corbynistas oxymoronically describe as “luxury Communism”. It’s possible that, even under the leadership of Sir Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrats may have some appeal to younger voters. If this isn’t enough to convince that it’s probably best to leave voting to the grown ups, I don’t know what will be.

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No issue with a 12 year olds being thrust into national press for politically motivated reasons and giving speeches at far right rallies, but allowing 16 year olds to vote is "stealing their childhood" and making "vulnerable people suffer".... I am dead. This has to be a parody.
Didn't think this would get a reply
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The blinkers are on.

I updated the Trump thread with the latest goings on last night too and had next to no replies from his fierce supporters on here.
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Didn't think this would get a reply
because everyone can see its loaded with inaccurate assumptions

people are too long in the tooth on here to pander to stuff like that anymore tbh

(plus if your post has only had one reply in an hour (which it has) on here, think yourself lucky, not everyone is hanging on to every word you post!) lol
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because everyone can see its loaded with inaccurate assumptions

people are too long in the tooth on here to pander to stuff like that anymore tbh

(plus if your post has only had one reply in an hour (which it has) on here, think yourself lucky, not everyone is hanging on to every word you post!) lol
The only assumption is "for politically motivated reasons" but it's quite obvious if within 24 hours of it happening they're agreeing for her to do a speech at Tommy Robinson rally that they're using her for political reasons... the rest is factual. You just can't argue it because it exposes the enormous hypocrisy.
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Narinder Kaur calling someone else dreadful. That's ****ing rich...

And the head teacher deserves a bit of abuse, imo.
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Why stop at 16? Why not 6 year olds or 10 year olds?
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Its the only way they can hang on to power, given they have alienated anyone who works and is over 30
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Its the only way they can hang on to power, given they have alienated anyone who works and is over 30

Yes looks that way.
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