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Old 31-07-2008, 01:37 PM #76
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Self confessed homophobe here. Probably due to my dad and grandads strong hatred towards the group. My mum doesn't have any problem with them though.
I have no problem with what I dub articulate homophobes but you shot yourself in the foot with that one. You are homophobe mainly down to your dad and grandad?

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Moving on, thats what I cant stand. Most people your age will go ''Its coz d bible sez its a sin innit'' but do those same people read the bible? You can bet your bottom dollar they dont.

**** reason number 2 : ''It not natural coz it dont make ne babies neway like innit'' ... well yes, it is not procreative, but neither is contraceptive sex. You can bet many people who use that excuse ALSO would have no problem having contraceptive sex.

Seriously, form your own opinions folks. Thats something that takes bravery. Its much too easy to get your opinions from something carved in a rock or found in a cave. Theirs plenty of straight people to procreate and make the world go around. Why on earth would somebody care what two men decide to do with each other. It is not you. Those who have a life get on with it. Those who dont interefere in the lives of others.
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I am not homophobic in the slightest. Everybody in my school is homophobic though. There was a gay guy and a lesbian in my school but they left. People call me gay all the time even when I am not. So they start laughing (very homophobic in my opinion). They also call things gay for a laugh (in my opinion not funny. lol). I never call anyone or anything gay.
Maybe thats just how others precive you.
What does he mean by that. I can't exactly ask him as he has been banned.
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if everyone got on with their own lives instead of poking into others bussiness of how we should live,then the world would be a far nicer and safer place.!
do i care what any 'straight'couples do..........certainly not,its not my bussiness.
regarding Christian religion: well its been around for only 2,000 years,which in the grand scheme is nothing,and yet more wars are carried out in the name of religion in those 2,000 years than any other.!
i have a strong faith,but in my eyes God never condemns anyone who lives life kindly and shows an abiding respect for their fellow man.
sex plays such a small part in our daily lives that the ones who want to blow it out of all proportion,i just say,please get a life.!

but methinks some do protest too much?
now thats another side of the dice.???
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The thing that bothers me is most people are not articulate homophobes. Most working class people just dont like the character of being gay full stop. Its just petty hate. Nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

At least those who are against same sex because an ancient book tells them are *slightly* more logical.
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The thing that bothers me is most people are not articulate homophobes. Most working class people just dont like the character of being gay full stop. Its just petty hate. Nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

At least those who are against same sex because an ancient book tells them are *slightly* more logical.
People often grow up with the opinions of their parents pushed on to them and sometimes thats quite hard to change. It might not be illogical if you go back a generation or so.
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I have spent a long time wondering why people are homophobic!?! I know lots! It annoys me. I do support gay marriage. I think that as long as it's love than why should it just be some sort of contract. I do believe that in certain aspects of religion people are hypocrits. (If that's how you spell it) because things like, if your married, but you admire Brad Pitt for his looks, that would mean your being sexually imoral? Or some religious people believe that if you own a mirror, that's vanity.

I truley support gay people everywhere and I support religious people. Only, when religious people say they hate gay people (obviously not you guys) that is going against the bible as it is discrimination. In my eyes, homophobia is no different to racism. Bullying someone for a way they can't help being.

Just my opinion.

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I am not homophobic in the slightest. Everybody in my school is homophobic though. There was a gay guy and a lesbian in my school but they left. People call me gay all the time even when I am not. So they start laughing (very homophobic in my opinion). They also call things gay for a laugh (in my opinion not funny. lol). I never call anyone or anything gay.
Same here. At my school everyone is homophobic. Well, apart from me and my group of friends. We hate homophobs. But, what I have tried to do is just look past them. Think, your the one's living a hatred life! Your the one's who are (in my eyes) racist! And your the one's who are pathetic!

Just take no notice. To prove your not gay, try and get a girlfriend. If that dosen't work out, just laugh at the homophobes.

In my school, when people ask me or my friends if were gay we just say "Yeah..Totally!". The person is shocked because they expect you to go "Eww..No!!". Besides me and my friends are classed as hippies to them but oh well...

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The thing that bothers me is most people are not articulate homophobes. Most working class people just dont like the character of being gay full stop. Its just petty hate. Nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

At least those who are against same sex because an ancient book tells them are *slightly* more logical.
People often grow up with the opinions of their parents pushed on to them and sometimes thats quite hard to change. It might not be illogical if you go back a generation or so.
I know. Thats essentialy what I was pointing out and taking issue with in my post.

It still is no excuse though. People should stop and have a think about EVERYTHING once they reach a certain age, and stop acting a certin way just because their parents are that way.

Then again, churches around the world would be a lot emptier if that happened
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Im Not Homophobic.

i Kinda Agree With Damon.

Im Bi. And Like I just want to know why people are homophobic!. LOL.

Were not that scary. :P LOL.
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i dont really see the need for people to be homophobic live and let live i say love is love regardless of what sex person you fall for i am bi and having nothing against hetrosexual people so cant see the issue the other way round yes some people have the religious side but like someone else said contraception isnt exactly helping procreation
as long as people arent harming others then who are we as individuals to judge
before i started coming out i was worried some of my friends (mostly girls) would be concerned it meant i was gonna jump them when to be fair i dont do it to men so not gonna do it to women either
my fav quote is those who mind dont matter and those who matter dont mind so if someone is homophobic towards you ignore them cos clearly they arent worth it
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Well after last night I now know there is one EXTREMLY homophobic person on here one who I bared the brunt of his homopbia.
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as long as people arent harming others then who are we as individuals to judge
wierd for you to say that!

i swear, you supported the B*itch team! O.o
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Well after last night I now know there is one EXTREMLY homophobic person on here one who I bared the brunt of his homopbia.
Name and shame.
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Well after last night I now know there is one EXTREMLY homophobic person on here one who I bared the brunt of his homopbia.
Name and shame.
I don't think that would be very dignified of me. But don't worry - they'll get whats coming to them.
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Well after last night I now know there is one EXTREMLY homophobic person on here one who I bared the brunt of his homopbia.
Name and shame.
I don't think that would be very dignified of me. But don't worry - they'll get whats coming to them.
Sorry, no pressure. My opinion is just ''Why respect their right to privacy if their not going to respect my right to do what I want in privacy?''.
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Well after last night I now know there is one EXTREMLY homophobic person on here one who I bared the brunt of his homopbia.
Name and shame.
I don't think that would be very dignified of me. But don't worry - they'll get whats coming to them.
Sorry, no pressure. My opinion is just ''Why respect their right to privacy if their not going to respect my right to do what I want in privacy?''.
It's okay. All I'm saying is - there's more than one way to skin a cat.
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as long as people arent harming others then who are we as individuals to judge
wierd for you to say that!

i swear, you supported the B*itch team! O.o
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I have never met anyone homophobic, so if I could talk to one with a strong feeling of homophobia, that would be great. I have purely always wanted to know the reasons for homophobia, is it because of what it says in the bible? Or is homosexuality just seen as a digusting act? Being gay myself, I am just really keen to find out why homophobia exists, the reasons behind it.
my dad is homophobic and i don't know why, he is so close minded as he would disown me if i was a lesbian and my brothers if they were gay as he thinks it's disgusting, i'm not gonna say i'm the number one fan of gay relationships but everyone has their own preference if my friends or family members such as my children were gay i would accept that as they are my children and as long as they are happy i'm happy
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hear hear gazbo and very well put x x x
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I have never met anyone homophobic, so if I could talk to one with a strong feeling of homophobia, that would be great. I have purely always wanted to know the reasons for homophobia, is it because of what it says in the bible? Or is homosexuality just seen as a digusting act? Being gay myself, I am just really keen to find out why homophobia exists, the reasons behind it.
my dad is homophobic and i don't know why, he is so close minded as he would disown me if i was a lesbian and my brothers if they were gay as he thinks it's disgusting, i'm not going to say i'm the number one fan of gay relationships but everyone has their own preference if my friends or family members such as my children were gay i would accept that as they are my children and as long as they are happy i'm happy
There is a definite frowning upon it from older generations just as there is racism etc. There just simply wasn't the acceptance 20+ years ago as there is today.

But when people say "homophobes are disgusting", I think the person who says that is worse than a homophobe, and I don't think homophobes are that bad ... People are entitled to their opinion and sometimes people can't change their opinions just like that. Religion and background play a massive role IMO. I know this is going to sound silly but being homophobic isn't necessarily someones fault.
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Strange to think it was illegal in the uk just 40 years ago.

This may be part of the reason why older generations still frown upon it?

I'm not excusing them- just trying to give an explanation. They then pass their views on to their children which is how younger generations become homophobic.
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I have never met anyone homophobic, so if I could talk to one with a strong feeling of homophobia, that would be great. I have purely always wanted to know the reasons for homophobia, is it because of what it says in the bible? Or is homosexuality just seen as a digusting act? Being gay myself, I am just really keen to find out why homophobia exists, the reasons behind it.
my dad is homophobic and i don't know why, he is so close minded as he would disown me if i was a lesbian and my brothers if they were gay as he thinks it's disgusting, i'm not going to say i'm the number one fan of gay relationships but everyone has their own preference if my friends or family members such as my children were gay i would accept that as they are my children and as long as they are happy i'm happy
There is a definite frowning upon it from older generations just as there is racism etc. There just simply wasn't the acceptance 20+ years ago as there is today.

But when people say "homophobes are disgusting", I think the person who says that is worse than a homophobe, and I don't think homophobes are that bad ... People are entitled to their opinion and sometimes people can't change their opinions just like that. Religion and background play a massive role IMO. I know this is going to sound silly but being homophobic isn't necessarily someones fault.
Kudos to the smart homophobes, but most of them ARE just ignorant idiots who are homophobic by default. Like I said, these are the people who never read the bible but activley tell people the bible condemns homosexuality.

On a basic level, screwing all the eye for an eye and freedom of speech bullshit, non homophobic people are more open minded than homophobic people, so I have no problem with people saying homophobes are disgusting. Most of them are. Not all, but most.

Its the same as people saying ''its their law and we have to respect that'' when talking about the discrimination and severe punishments in middle eastern countries. Soverign state or not, **** that. We still have the right to say they are absoloutely wrong.

Im not respecting unjust things just because im told to or because ''its their right''.
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I dont mind ppl having opinions and such. if they dont like gay/bi ppl then thats up to them. its when they start taking the piss out of gay people that annoys me.

I hope there are no homophobic people on here. im not homophobic but im gay as well so i cant be lol.
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Strange to think it was illegal in the uk just 40 years ago.
Woah, that is weird! Illegal, damn. Must have been so scary back then for men who dug men folk.
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