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Old 11-11-2012, 10:04 PM #1
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..where there's smoke there's often a barbecue..with someone getting roasted....
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..where there's smoke there's often a barbecue..with someone getting roasted....
Really?

We use burgers, bangers and bacon .....

(or are you referring to a sexual activity ..... )

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What exactly is wrong with quoting the Telegraph?...
I would really love to know, while having a discussion in serious debates what on earth is wrong with posting reports from broadsheet newspapers as a point of reference?
I am sick to death of seeing the suggestion that members are throwing around accusations, or they in some way do not have the intellectual capacity to comment on news items...
I for one will continue to comment on this case as it continues, those who do take an interest in this topic should be (in my opinion) able to do so without constant heckling.
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What exactly is wrong with quoting the Telegraph?...
I would really love to know, while having a discussion in serious debates what on earth is wrong with posting reports from broadsheet newspapers as a point of reference?
I am sick to death of seeing the suggestion that members are throwing around accusations, or they in some way do not have the intellectual capacity to comment on news items...
I for one will continue to comment on this case as it continues, those who do take an interest in this topic should be (in my opinion) able to do so without constant heckling.
Hear, Hear .....
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A councillor has suggested demolishing a house which belonged to disgraced TV presenter Jimmy Savile after it was vandalised for a third time.

Orange paint was sprayed onto exterior walls of the cottage at Allt Na Reigh in Glencoe over the weekend.

Last month, stones were thrown at the property before "Jimmy the beast" was later written on a wall.

Highland councillor Andrew Baxter said the local community might want the cottage to be pulled down.

Savile bought the Glencoe cottage in 1998.

Mr Baxter told BBC Radio Scotland that the property sat in a prominent location in Glencoe, and there were growing concerns it had become the focus for the disgust people felt towards Savile.

Northern Constabulary said it was investigating the latest incident of vandalism.
Demolition would be good .....
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So because some people are squeamish a property that could be used to assist disabled people is to be destroyed?

People may commit evil acts with things or in places but, things are not evil and places are not evil

Are we going to start demolishing every single building and shop he may have visited? Back in 2003 he opened the events we had for In Town without Your Car day in our China town, should we now start sending in the bulldozers to wipe the whole of Newcastle's Stowell Street off of the map because he was there?
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So because some people are squeamish a property that could be used to assist disabled people is to be destroyed?

People may commit evil acts with things or in places but, things are not evil and places are not evil

Are we going to start demolishing every single building and shop he may have visited? Back in 2003 he opened the events we had for In Town without Your Car day in our China town, should we now start sending in the bulldozers to wipe the whole of Newcastle's Stowell Street off of the map because he was there?
Have "vandals" attacked the whole of Newcastle's Sowell Street three times and left it damaged and covered in anti-paedo graffiti ?

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So because some people are squeamish a property that could be used to assist disabled people is to be destroyed?

People may commit evil acts with things or in places but, things are not evil and places are not evil

Are we going to start demolishing every single building and shop he may have visited? Back in 2003 he opened the events we had for In Town without Your Car day in our China town, should we now start sending in the bulldozers to wipe the whole of Newcastle's Stowell Street off of the map because he was there?
i will add this,
a gun is not evil,but some evil people use them.
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Cars are not evil, but some evil people use them .....
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It does seem a bit too far, like the suggestion he was dug up and cremated....*too macabre*
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Maybe because he promoted the use of seatbelts in cars with "Clunk click every trip" we should remove these things from our cars and refuse to wear them

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Maybe because he promoted the use of seatbelts in cars with "Clunk click every trip" we should remove these things from our cars and refuse to wear them

If you think it's a good idea, do it .....
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Hate to think what they would do to him if he was actually found guilty of anything...!!!!
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Exclamation Jimmy Savile: Further 14 women make claims against former chauffeur

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Detectives probing alleged sex offences carried out by Jimmy Savile’s former driver were last night looking into 17 separate complaints from women.

Ray Teret, 71, was arrested at his home in Greater Manchester last week over the alleged rape of three children in the 1960s & 70s.

Since news of his arrest broke, cops at the Serious Sexual Offences Unit have been contacted by 14 more women who say they were subjected to a catalogue of crimes at the hands of Teret including indecent assault, the sexual abuse of children, indecent exposure and false imprisonment.

Police in Manchester have distanced their investigation into Teret from the nationwide inquiry into predatory paedophile Savile being conducted by officers at Met.

The original complaints against Teret, a former pirate DJ known as Savile’s sidekick throughout the sick star’s TV heyday, were made to the Met who passed them north when there was no suggestion the Jim’ll Fix It presenter was involved.

The woman came forward after news of Savile’s long-term abuse came to light.

They said Teret raped them while they were under 16 while he worked in Manchester.

Police said the new complaints against Teret date from 1962 to 1979 and allegations centred on the Sale and Altrincham areas.

The alleged victims are now set to give statements to specially trained officers and are being offered support.

Teret and his housemate, Alan Ledger, 61, were held at their home in Altrincham last Thursday.

Ledger is suspected of raping one of the girls with Teret.

The pair were questioned before being bailed pending further inquiries.

Detective Inspector Simon Davies, leading the investigation for Greater Manchester Police, said: “Police investigating allegations of historic sexual abuse in the Trafford area are now looking into 17 separate complaints.

“The arrests followed an investigation by the Serious Sexual Offences Unit into three separate allegations of historic sexual abuse which have been reported to Greater Manchester Police.

“Since the arrests, a further 14 potential victims of historic sexual abuse have been identified, making a total of 17, and these complaints are also now being investigated by the Serious Sexual Offences Unit.

“Officers are continuing to provide specialist support and welfare to all the victims.

“As we said at the outset of this investigation, our duty is to all those victims who have shown great courage to come forward and report they have been victims of historic sexual abuse.

“Because of the number of victims who have come forward since last week, our investigation is now both wide-ranging and complex and clearly we need to investigate every complaint thoroughly which will take time.

“The two men who were arrested have been released on bail while we carry out these inquiries.

“Again, I want to be absolutely clear that while the publicity surrounding the late Jimmy Savile and the investigation launched by the Metropolitan Police Service into his abuse was the genesis for this inquiry and victims coming forward, we are not investigating any complaints that Savile himself was either present or involved in any of the allegations.”
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Dame Janet Smith, who is conducting an inquiry into allegations of sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile, has launched an appeal for witnesses.

A website has been set up giving contact details and listing groups which provide support for victims.

The Dame Janet Smith Review was set up last month by the BBC to conduct an independent review of the corporation's practices during the Savile era.

Dame Janet's review is designed to "examine whether the BBC's culture and practices during those years enabled the sexual abuse of children to continue unchecked".

Part of her role is to obtain evidence from people who allege inappropriate sexual conduct on the part of Savile and investigate "whether BBC personnel knew or ought to have known of Savile's conduct".

The Dame Janet Smith Review website says it would like to hear from those who were the subject of inappropriate sexual conduct by the presenter on BBC premises or on location, and from those who were aware of or suspected such conduct.

It also seeks information from anyone who complained or raised concerns about Savile within the BBC, and from people familiar with its culture and practices, including those who held senior positions.

Dame Janet, a former appeal court judge, will also consider whether the BBC child protection and whistle-blowing policies are fit for purpose.

She previously led the Shipman Inquiry, which examined the activities of serial killer GP Dr Harold Shipman.
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The man, from Bedfordshire, was taken into custody at 07:45 GMT on Thursday.
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About 450 potential victims of sexual abuse have now been identified by the police investigation set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal.

Late last month, police said they had identified about 300 potential victims of Savile and other abusers.

BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said: "The police said a couple of weeks ago that Savile was a predatory sex offender - one of the worst sex offenders that they had come across.

"The figures that we are being given today suggest that the scale of his offending is even worse than was first feared."
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Top of the Pops BBC4 7:30PM with DLT.
Yes maybe they should wipe all the Top of the Pops with DLT and Jimmy Saville in as if people watch them they may have a fit or put a brick through their tv or die or worse!!!

But on a serious note, I think it's disgusting that once again the police arrest a celebrity and it's now plastered all over the news and headline news to, when the only possible evidence the police could possibly have is that his name has been mentioned by one of the complainants who decided to say nothing at the time that they claim that these supposed crimes took place, but after being questioned for probably 18 hours or something as the police need plenty of tea breaks and toilet breaks etc.. etc.. during the interview as well as asking the same questions to him probably 20 times just in case he may give in and say "I'm guilty"!! and then when DLT and his solicitor have been through all of that he will be released on bail, just like Gary Glitter and Freddie Starr. But no matter what happens, whether he is charged or not, the mud from all this will stick to him for life, and he will be judged as a paedophile for as long as he lives and also after he is dead.

There is a simple way of avoiding all of this unnecessary smearing of someone who could be innocent, and that is to arrest someone without the media finding out about it and one day that just may happen. But not the way things stand now, which is very cruel..
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But on a serious note, I think it's disgusting that once again the police arrest a celebrity and it's now plastered all over the news and headline news to, when the only possible evidence the police could possibly have is that his name has been mentioned by one of the complainants who decided to say nothing at the time that they claim that these supposed crimes took place, but after being questioned for probably 18 hours or something as the police need plenty of tea breaks and toilet breaks etc.. etc.. during the interview as well as asking the same questions to him probably 20 times just in case he may give in and say "I'm guilty"!! and then when DLT and his solicitor have been through all of that he will be released on bail, just like Gary Glitter and Freddie Starr. But no matter what happens, whether he is charged or not, the mud from all this will stick to him for life, and he will be judged as a paedophile for as long as he lives and also after he is dead.
It seems to me that is pure speculation and unfounded assertion, in fact exactly what you accuse others of .....
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