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[The Slim Reaper]

People attacked by Johnson:

Black people
Gay people
Muslims
Single parents
The children of single parents

[Livia]

That's using the word "attacked" quite loosely though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"attacked" = mentioned

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"attacked" = mentioned

You could replace attacked with denigrated, mocked, disenfranchised, stereotyped or prejudged then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You could replace attacked with denigrated, mocked, disenfranchised, stereotyped or prejudged then.

Yes if you were trying to exaggerate to make a political point i agree

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes if you were trying to exaggerate to make a political point i agree

Isn't that the role of political commentators?

[bots]

Boris Johnson is on course for a comfortable majority, according to a polling model that accurately predicted the election outcome two years ago.

The Conservatives would win 359 seats, Labour 211, the SNP 43 and the Liberal Democrats 13 if the election were held today, according to a seat-by-seat analysis based on polling by YouGov for The Times.

That result would give Mr Johnson a majority of 68 as he made gains at Labour’s expense, particularly in the Midlands and north of England. Labour would suffer its second-worst postwar defeat, with Jeremy Corbyn’s total two above Michael Foot’s in 1983.

The projected margins of victory are below 5 per cent, however, in at least 30 seats predicted to be Conservative. YouGov cautions that a fall…

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...rity-qrqsq9f7r

[Liam-]

The attitudes Boris and his peers have shown to minorities is disgusting, but yet, it gets tolerated cause ‘that’s Boris!’ Is actually really worrying, it shows that this country, the establishment and the media that let them get away with it, isn’t as acceptaing or tolerant as it’s made out to me, we’ll be back in the days of ‘no gays’ or ‘no blacks allowed’ signs outside buildings before long with the rate we’re going imo, we’re at a nauseating place in time

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The attitudes Boris and his peers have shown to minorities is disgusting, but yet, it gets tolerated cause ‘that’s Boris!’ Is actually really worrying, it shows that this country, the establishment and the media that let them get away with it, isn’t as acceptaing or tolerant as it’s made out to me, we’ll be back in the days of ‘no gays’ or ‘no blacks allowed’ signs outside buildings before long with the rate we’re going imo, we’re at a nauseating place in time

The Main Problem
many examples are old ones
we are not returning to no blacks allowed
never.


If Johnson refuses the BBC TV Andrew Neil Interview
then we will not get new facts?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The attitudes Boris and his peers have shown to minorities is disgusting, but yet, it gets tolerated cause ‘that’s Boris!’ Is actually really worrying, it shows that this country, the establishment and the media that let them get away with it, isn’t as acceptaing or tolerant as it’s made out to me, we’ll be back in the days of ‘no gays’ or ‘no blacks allowed’ signs outside buildings before long with the rate we’re going imo, we’re at a nauseating place in time

oh for goodness sake, that is quite ridiculous

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

oh for goodness sake, that is quite ridiculous

Not really, cause that’s how it feels to be a minority sometimes in this day, if the rise of the bigoted far right, like in Hungary and Russia, isn’t stopped before it infects Britain more than it already has, then that’s where we’ll be headed I’m afraid

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

oh for goodness sake, that is quite ridiculous

Is it really though?

The Anti Semite stuff is rightfully bought up constantly, but I think only the most blinkered haters of Corbyn actually think Corbyn is an Anti Semite himself. However he’s still constantly beaten with that that stick by people who couldn’t give a damn about the racism, but just don’t happen to like him.

The Tory party has their share of Islamophobia, anti black and let’s be real anti everyone but themselves. It gets swept under the carpet though by the media and the public. Maybe in most part because their views are unfortunately starting to reflect a larger section of the country which has a great deal of hatred in their veins, or maybe it’s just because the public are just simply brainwashed by the media
-shrug-

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Is it really though?

The Anti Semite stuff is rightfully bought up constantly, but I think only the most blinkered haters of Corbyn actually think Corbyn is an Anti Semite himself. However he’s still constantly beaten with that that stick by people who couldn’t give a damn about the racism, but just don’t happen to like him.

The Tory party has their share of Islamophobia, anti black and let’s be real anti everyone but themselves. It gets swept under the carpet though by the media and the public. Maybe in most part because their views are unfortunately starting to reflect a larger section of the country which has a great deal of hatred in their veins, or maybe it’s just because the public are just simply brainwashed by the media
-shrug-

the Chief Rabbi FFS

i mean come on



its hardly the Mail

[Kizzy]

I'm confused as to the framing of this YouGov poll who were said to have been the most accurate in 2017. They weren't opinium were as you gov underestimated labour massively.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the Chief Rabbi FFS

i mean come on



its hardly the Mail

So because he has a title, that means his words are worth listening to more than the other countless Rabbis and Jewish leaders that have come out in support of Corbyn/Labour? Why are a portion of Jews being ignored? Doesn’t sound very inclusive to me.
The Chief Rabbi doesn’t speak for all Jews as the Pope doesn’t speak for all catholics

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The attitudes Boris and his peers have shown to minorities is disgusting, but yet, it gets tolerated cause ‘that’s Boris!’ Is actually really worrying, it shows that this country, the establishment and the media that let them get away with it, isn’t as acceptaing or tolerant as it’s made out to me, we’ll be back in the days of ‘no gays’ or ‘no blacks allowed’ signs outside buildings before long with the rate we’re going imo, we’re at a nauseating place in time

No one wants a return to that. And yes, there are bigots in the Tory party like there are in society and it is NOT acceptable. But I have to tell you, as a Jewish woman, I don't really want to take part in political discussions on TiBB any more because I feel like I'm singled out and shouted down, I feel belittled, I feel like my voice is worthless... and worst of all, I'm told there's no problem with anti-Semitism... but that the Tories are bigots.

You guys have done a really great job if Shutting up the lone Jewish voice on this forum. Well done.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one wants a return to that. And yes, there are bigots in the Tory party like there are in society and it is NOT acceptable. But I have to tell you, as a Jewish woman, I don't really want to take part in political discussions on TiBB any more because I feel like I'm singled out and shouted down, I feel belittled, I feel like my voice is worthless... and worst of all, I'm told there's no problem with anti-Semitism... but that the Tories are bigots.

You guys have done a really great job if Shutting up the lone Jewish voice on this forum. Well done.

Woah, don’t lump me into whatever problem you seem to have, I’ve never said anything of the sort to you, we’ve always had very open, often charged discussions on things we don’t agree with and you know that, while it’s awful you feel like that, for whatever reason you do, you’re hardly a constant beacon of positivity towards people and their opinions either, you can’t expect everyone to respect you and your opinion, if sometimes you show very little respect the other way.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Woah, don’t lump me into whatever problem you seem to have, I’ve never said anything of the sort to you, we’ve always had very open, often charged discussions on things we don’t agree with and you know that, while it’s awful you feel like that, for whatever reason you do, you’re hardly a child stand beacon of positivity towards people and their opinions either, you can’t expect everyone to respect you and your opinion, if sometimes you show very little respect the other way.

What's the point.....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one wants a return to that. And yes, there are bigots in the Tory party like there are in society and it is NOT acceptable. But I have to tell you, as a Jewish woman, I don't really want to take part in political discussions on TiBB any more because I feel like I'm singled out and shouted down, I feel belittled, I feel like my voice is worthless... and worst of all, I'm told there's no problem with anti-Semitism... but that the Tories are bigots.

You guys have done a really great job if Shutting up the lone Jewish voice on this forum. Well done.

Say what you need to Livia some of us might learn by it,no one should make you feel like that but I kinda see where you are coming from ,a place where everyone agrees can get kinds boring, I for one look forward to your posts and love your humour,

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one wants a return to that. And yes, there are bigots in the Tory party like there are in society and it is NOT acceptable. But I have to tell you, as a Jewish woman, I don't really want to take part in political discussions on TiBB any more because I feel like I'm singled out and shouted down, I feel belittled, I feel like my voice is worthless... and worst of all, I'm told there's no problem with anti-Semitism... but that the Tories are bigots.

You guys have done a really great job if Shutting up the lone Jewish voice on this forum. Well done.

Strangely that's how I feel too, you want your voice heard but advertise the fact you won't listen to others with whom you disagree.
I personally have never said there is not a problem with antisemitism, as a lone voice on here of course you have every right to your opinion it does not however naturally follow that others will agree with that veiw.

I think there's a valid point in that tolerance of certain groups is in the decline to the point where attacks are becoming commonplace, which does smack of regression.

It's important then at this time to be really honest with our selves and acknowledge where this is coming from, whose ideology is it? Where did it originate?

[arista]

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