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arista · 14-09-2019, 10:28 AM

Withano · 14-09-2019, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

News: person changes their mind once they realised they were wrong
Reaction: TRAITOR! SNAKE!

arista · 14-09-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

News: person changes their mind once they realised they were wrong
Reaction: TRAITOR! SNAKE!

Sure The BUGGER
wants to sell his BOOK

Parmy · 14-09-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Sure The BUGGER
wants to sell his BOOK

He's opening up a pigs head with this.

arista · 14-09-2019, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

He's opening up a pigs head with this.

Yes in that Other Book
when he was Younger in College

Pigs head get's it

lime · 14-09-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Sure The BUGGER
wants to sell his BOOK

Like Boris

arista · 14-09-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lime

Like Boris

No the PM is Busy
getting the UK out of the EU

Monday he meets Junker
in Luxembourg

lime · 14-09-2019, 03:05 PM

Why is it that British folk like lies?strange.....

The moment a politician lies to me He/She is not geting my vote

Twosugars · 14-09-2019, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lime

Why is it that British folk like lies?strange.....

The moment a politician lies to me He/She is not geting my vote

Not all, only half

Bc it agrees with their own biases

arista · 14-09-2019, 05:17 PM

user104658 · 14-09-2019, 06:11 PM

Honestly, Thatcher was a horrendous Tory, so many heartless actions BUT she would never have created the absolute shambles we've had in Cameron-May-Johnson and Brexit.

Though I do think we're all forgetting a bit too soon that at the end of the day, this is Cameron's mess. This was his almighty **** up. No matter what happens.

arista · 14-09-2019, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly, Thatcher was a horrendous Tory, so many heartless actions BUT she would never have created the absolute shambles we've had in Cameron-May-Johnson and Brexit.

Though I do think we're all forgetting a bit too soon that at the end of the day, this is Cameron's mess. This was his almighty **** up. No matter what happens.

Sure more For the Scottish
but look at Labour leaders back then
no chance of winning

joeysteele · 14-09-2019, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly, Thatcher was a horrendous Tory, so many heartless actions BUT she would never have created the absolute shambles we've had in Cameron-May-Johnson and Brexit.

Though I do think we're all forgetting a bit too soon that at the end of the day, this is Cameron's mess. This was his almighty **** up. No matter what happens.

She'd have never held the referendum TS.
Neither would she have acted on a 3.8% majority.

She threw the narrow vote for devolution in Scotland out in late 70s.

user104658 · 14-09-2019, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

She'd have never held the referendum TS.
Neither would she have acted on a 3.8% majority.

She threw the narrow vote for devolution in Scotland out in late 70s.

No PM would have held it if they thought it had a chance of passing... Cameron did it because he was over-confident about the outcome. He thought remain would win by a large margin. Everyone who allowed it to happen, believed it wouldn't happen. Just sheer arrogance. Which is why his stomach fell out of his arsehole when "Leave" won, and he resigned immediately.

joeysteele · 14-09-2019, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No PM would have held it if they thought it had a chance of passing... Cameron did it because he was over-confident about the outcome. He thought remain would win by a large margin. Everyone who allowed it to happen, believed it wouldn't happen. Just sheer arrogance. Which is why his stomach fell out of his arsehole when "Leave" won, and he resigned immediately.

Lovely description at the end there TS

You are totally right in all you say though.

Twosugars · 14-09-2019, 08:37 PM

Let's not forget why Cameron did it. He was under pressure from ukip and hardliners in his party.
As then was May and as is now Johnson. Brexit party is ukip2.
Some political forces have never been happy with the eu membership, especially since it started to involve more than the economy.
Dont think Cameron could have resisted forever. Though its campaign and rules were done wrong.

My point is that this issue has been poisoning the debate at least since the Major government.

UK has never been a fully committed eu member.

Kizzy · 15-09-2019, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Let's not forget why Cameron did it. He was under pressure from ukip and hardliners in his party.
As then was May and as is now Johnson. Brexit party is ukip2.
Some political forces have never been happy with the eu membership, especially since it started to involve more than the economy.
Dont think Cameron could have resisted forever. Though its campaign and rules were done wrong.

My point is that this issue has been poisoning the debate at least since the Major government.

UK has never been a fully committed eu member.

Ive always said ukip were tory2 the ageing yuppies from the 80s who love excess and hate Johnny foreigner.
My view is this was a forgone conclusion we were leaving by the internal factions in the conservatives, the referendum was a smokescreen so it appeared to be the will of the people.
Cameron is back after 3yrs silence and he appears to have a score to settle, as always the truth will out.

Kizzy · 15-09-2019, 09:38 AM

Boris is going to circumvent the law? Bend the rules?

He knows nothing about this country then because that will never be accepted as he well knows justice is at our core we love to see it done.
My guess is he's going to turn into the incredible sulk because he's not getting away with that.

Thinking about the child killer headline, its a shame that only applies to direct killers as if it were indirect all those MPS voting for austerity measures that had 1 in 4 children living below the poverty line starving might have cause to be worried. The infant mortality rate has risen exponentially since the conservatives came to power, to my mind they are culpable.