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Old 22-11-2022, 10:22 AM #1
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850 in the House Of Lords


Starmer wants them Gone

Could be a vote Winner?
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[Nigel Farage has welcomed Keir Starmer’s comments
on immigration, claiming that Labour is now
“to the right” of the Tories.


The Brexiteer said the Labour leader was
repeating promises from UKIP’s 2015 manifesto
with his migration stance as well as his pledge
to abolish the House of Lords.
Farage posted a video in response to Starmer’s speech
to the CBI conference, in which
he urged UK businesses to wean themselves
off “immigration dependency”,
warning that “low pay and cheap labour” had to end.
Starmer’s comments came a day after Rishi Sunak
also addressed the business group.

Former UKIP leader Farage said:
“So during Jeremy Hunt’s budget and since,
and yesterday at CBI conference,
the Tories have made clear they’re going
to continue with large scale mass
legal immigration.
“And oh boy! Their paymasters in the big political parties,
the big global companies are delighted.
“Today, Keir Starmer says we must stop the reliance
on cheap foreign labour, start training our own people.
“What with that, and saying the House of Lords
must be removed in its current shape,
Starmer is now repeating the UKIP 2015 manifesto.]


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0e771d958131a

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[the Tories have made clear they’re going
to continue with large scale mass
legal immigration.]


On This Slim
Farage is Wrong & Not Updated
as PM Sunak cancelled Hunts dream
Yesterday in the CBI conference

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[the Tories have made clear they’re going
to continue with large scale mass
legal immigration.]


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Farage is Wrong & Not Updated
as PM Sunak cancelled Hunts dream
Yesterday in the CBI conference
Sunak didn't cancel anything as he was in favour of it, but the ERG threatened him and he backed down like a meek little puppy. Lets at least get the basics right.

Starmer has shifted way, way to the right. For some this may come as such a surprise, that they will now need to pretend it's part of a masterplan, but the truth is obvious - starmer will do or say anything to get into power, and just like Johnson, these are the very last people that should be anywhere near power
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Sunak didn't cancel anything as he was in favour of it, but the ERG threatened him and he backed down like a meek little puppy. Lets at least get the basics right.

Starmer has shifted way, way to the right. For some this may come as such a surprise, that they will now need to pretend it's part of a masterplan, but the truth is obvious - starmer will do or say anything to get into power, and just like Johnson, these are the very last people that should be anywhere near power
He is in favour of Legal Workers
entering the UK on Contract.


That is not changing the EU deal



Those imported workers are needed.
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to suggest that labour is further right than the tories is a bit of a stretch

I do agree though that the current crop of politicians will do and say anything to grab power
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to suggest that labour is further right than the tories is a bit of a stretch

I do agree though that the current crop of politicians will do and say anything to grab power

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SkyNews text:
[Labour leader Keir Starmer's apparent plan to
scrap the charitable status of some private schools,
has been described as "a spite measure,"
by Tory MPs, according to the Daily Mail.]
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[Up to 200 private schools may be forced to close
if Labour cuts their tax breaks
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do the tories really think that fighting to keep elitist private schools during a cost of living crisis is a vote winner? It shows how out of touch they are
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The anti-democratic labour party strikes again.

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There's a reason tory mp's feel safe and at home under Starmer.

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"The anti-democratic labour party strikes again."

But they want to take over, at the next General Election.
Strict control from now on
is logical from Starmer
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There's a reason tory mp's feel safe and at home under

Slim use a Proper Conservative
that ain't running away




Charles Walker

Is Stepping Down

Slim he is not a typical Conservative
at all.

Pathetic Git he is

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Starmer is going live on TV and radio News
this morning.


His Dream to change the House of Lords
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Live first on BBC1AM now


Starmer is in Leeds

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On SkyNewsHD now


He hopes to get his idea of the House of Lords
done in his first term.


He also states Wales and Scotland
has resolved Strike deals


https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-...plans-12761863

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He hopes to get his idea of the House of Lords
done in his first term.


He also states Wales and Scotland
has resolved Strike deals


https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-...plans-12761863

Yes, and he wants to abolish second jobs for MPs. Something I think is well overdue. There are many MPs like that horrendous David Lammy and Esther McVey who behave as if they're NOT MPs. Both spend more time writing in the newspapers and being on TV and radio.

It makes me furious when I see Esther McVey presenting TV shows on GB News as if she is a free agent. The greed on her face is apparent. She's an MP. BE AN MP. AND NOTHING ELSE.


I do hope Starmer puts this policy into action. It's well overdue.

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I applaud this idea.

Although I'd like to hear a lot of the detail too.
An elected chamber instead of the Lords.
Great.
HOW would he want it elected, by first past the post or a PR system.
If not PR what's the point of again having under half the votes cast dictating with an overall status in the new chamber.
That is a concern.

If he would like PR for the second chamber then why not go all the way and adopt the policy of PR overwhelmingly supported at Conference this year for general elections too.

He does really NEED to spell out at least a bit of the finer detail of things he proposes.

I applaud most of what he is proposing but I wish he'd get over the fear of going much further on other issues which could turn off some voters.
Which I doubt really would turn them off IF he showed the conviction and passion for them.
Such as taking energy at least into public ownership.

He does I'm sure believe that right to look at and do and I still believe most of the Country would applaud that policy too.

I'd like him to and hope he will, as the election approaches really go for massively changing policies on a good number of issues.
The chance is there but he doesn't need to risk that chance disappearing by a lack of boldness on his part.

This House of Lords idea though and more powers to the rest of the UK.
Certainly that should prove a vote winner no doubt.
I just want him to return to the things he still claims he's open on.
Because if he was to present the things he really still knows he could support then he'd come across better presenting such policies.

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Yes Elected Lords

Starmer hopes to bring it in on his first term.
We need to hear what the Old Gits in the House of Lords
have to say on this.
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His Live Speech
in Leeds will be Live shortly

Gordon Brown
is now talking SkyNewsHD and BBCnewsHD
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New Britain


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Starmer now Live


3 News Channels


Pathetic LBC is wasting his time on Hancock
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