[arista]

[arista]

[bots]

it just shows how ****ed up politics is at the moment

[The Slim Reaper]

A guy saying free Palestine during his working hours, is a matter for his employer, not the police or the mayor.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

A guy saying free Palestine during his working hours, is a matter for his employer, not the police or the mayor.

You shouldn't play down as simply being a man saying free Palestine, when it was a man whipping up his passengers by shouting this mantra over a tannoy system.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You shouldn't play down as simply being a man saying free Palestine, when it was a man whipping up his passengers by shouting this mantra over a tannoy system.

Unless he was saying or doing something that would be illegal to do in his free time, then it can't be anything other than an issue for his employers.

That said I'd be lying if I claimed to know how TFL runs as an employer, I get the impression that London itself is heavily involved with TFL(?) so it may indeed be within the remit of the Mayor (ultimately) even as an employment issue. Not the police, though.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Unless he was saying or doing something that would be illegal to do in his free time, then it can't be anything other than an issue for his employers.

By and large I agree, nothing short of a call to violence should be restricted when it comes to speech.

BUT it's perhaps not the best idea to egg on a crowd who are probably already on edge.

BUT BUT it's still between the driver and employer.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Unless he was saying or doing something that would be illegal to do in his free time, then it can't be anything other than an issue for his employers.

That said I'd be lying if I claimed to know how TFL runs as an employer, I get the impression that London itself is heavily involved with TFL(?) so it may indeed be within the remit of the Mayor (ultimately) even as an employment issue. Not the police, though.

TFL is governed by the Mayor

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You shouldn't play down as simply being a man saying free Palestine, when it was a man whipping up his passengers by shouting this mantra over a tannoy system.

There's nothing to play down. I've heard the clip, and you can tell by his voice that it seems good natured, not the scary mantra you're implying, to whip up the the London branch of Isis..

He will probably have an "acceptable speech over the tannoy" section in his contract, and if he's breeched the rules he will be punished. No need to beg the mayor for help.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There's nothing to play down. I've heard the clip, and you can tell by his voice that it seems good natured, not the scary mantra you're implying, to whip up the the London branch of Isis..

He will probably have an "acceptable speech over the tannoy" section in his contract, and if he's breeched the rules he will be punished. No need to beg the mayor for help.

Good natured, for whom? Him and the people going to the rally!!

Definitely not for the isolated jew sitting alone terrified incase he is recognised.

[Parmy]

Yes, the mayor is the chairman of TFL, and he needs to comment on this and make boundaries for his staff clear.

For instance, I could almost guarantee that the tannoy system should only used to instruct passengers so they can use the system safely and easily.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes, the mayor is the chairman of TFL, and he needs to comment on this and make boundaries for his staff clear.

For instance, I could almost guarantee that the tannoy system should only used to instruct passengers so they can use the system safely and easily.

100% and I would argue it is definately British Transport Police issue as it involves the safety of the travelling public

[arista]

[arista]

[fruit_cake]

more killing isn't going to solve the killing

[Liam-]

I’m so confused, do people now want people fired from their jobs for having sharing an opinion? I thought the free speech brigade has been defending that right for years? Now this man deserves to lose his job for having his opinion? Just say you don’t want people to support Palestine and be done with it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I’m so confused, do people now want people fired from their jobs for having sharing an opinion? I thought the free speech brigade has been defending that right for years? Now this man deserves to lose his job for having his opinion? Just say you don’t want people to support Palestine and be done with it

He was not on him own time, he was driving a tube train and is there to serve all his passengers not just those going to a March....he could have taken the day off and gone on the March where would the issue be, you should just say you want Jews to feel as unsafe as possible in the UK and be done with it

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He was not on him own time, he was driving a tube train and is there to serve all his passengers not just those going to a March....he could have taken the day off and gone on the March where would the issue be, you should just say you want Jews to feel as unsafe as possible in the UK and be done with it

Saying "free Palestine" is not an attack on Jews. That's absurd. Jews were also out in force to protest for a free Palestine.

[Cherie]

People pay an arm and a leg to travel around London, they should not be subjected to the politics of the driver whatever they might be

[bots]

jewish people may not be supportive of israeli action, but that doesn't stop them being very scared for their own safety. If they were caught on that train, they would be very uncomfortable at a minimum.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Jewish people may not be supportive of Israeli action, but that doesn't stop them being very scared for their own safety. If they were caught on that train, they would be very uncomfortable at a minimum.

Yes the Tube Driver
can not be found.

TFL confirmed

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the Tube Driver
can not be found.

TFL confirmed

thats obviously bollocks though

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

thats obviously bollocks though

For Sure TFL
know who was driving that tube train
they are on shifts.


All logged into to their computer

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the Tube Driver
can not be found.

TFL confirmed

This should be a concern to the travelling public if TFL do not know who is driving their trains at any given time?

[Cherie]

On Wednesday night I had one of the most disturbing experiences in almost a decade since we founded Campaign Against Antisemitism. It exposed a chilling failing in how the Met polices London.

Our charity has enormous respect for the police and the risks that ordinary officers take in ensuring our safety here in the capital. But somewhere, the Met has taken a seriously wrong turn.

I saw this firsthand on Wednesday. In the early evening, there were protesters at a demonstration at Whitehall in which the chant “from the river to the sea” was heard. The Home Secretary has said that it is “a staple of anti-Semitic discourse”. The police were present but did nothing.

Those protesters then came to a van, contracted by our charity to raise awareness of the crimes of Hamas, a proscribed terrorist organisation, by displaying images of the child hostages. These protesters hurled abuse at the van, leaving our volunteers very shaken. The police, who were present at the scene, still did nothing.


If there are people threatening harm to other people, the priority of the police must surely be to stop the people threatening harm. But this seems to be less and less the case, and even more so in the past couple of weeks since Hamas terrorists murdered over 1,400 Israelis and took some 200 people, including babies, children and the elderly, hostage, and London’s streets have erupted.

When the police finally did decide to take action, it was – would you believe it? – against the van. They ordered it to shut down the images and leave central London. Why? Because it was a soft target. It was easier to order law-abiding citizens to take their humanitarian call for the return of child hostages elsewhere – ostensibly to keep the peace and ensure safety – than it was to arrest those who were trying to suppress our freedom of expression by blocking and intimidating the team in the van.

How is this policy of policing meant to reassure law-abiding citizens, Jewish or not?

The worst was yet to come. When the volunteers explained to me what had happened, I returned with the van to the same location. By then, no protesters were present. But the police again ordered the van to stop displaying the pictures — physically holding me aside until the drivers had done so — and get out of central London. Apparently there are too many people in London who might be offended at a reminder that a proscribed terrorist group has abducted Jewish children for the police to control.

The mob has won.

The Met released a couple of mealy mouthed statements, failing to take responsibility or apologise. But they also didn’t acknowledge what an abysmal failure of policing this is, because of what it says about the force’s priorities. All communities in London – including the Jewish community – deserve a policing policy that protects their rights, not the rights of those who mean us harm.




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