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it's such an unusual circumstance, vaccinating millions around the planet. Each county with it's own medical practices and medical authorities. Usually its children that are vaccinated in the greatest numbers and they are excluded from this at the moment.

Politics is way too involved in it, and there is too much infighting between countries/states. The EU have behaved dreadfully, I think. That's been the biggest eye opener for me.

We need to be guided by science. If there is direct medical proof that a vaccine resulted in a death, then it should be documented and the medical authorities should decide on the action necessary. There are way to many separate agendas going on for my liking.

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This is the statement our government have released about it :

Covid Vaccine Update

Statement from Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Ronan Glynn

Following new information received from the Norwegian Medicines Agency on Saturday evening 13th March and following discussions with the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA), the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) has recommended that the administration of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca be temporarily deferred from this morning, Sunday 14th March.

This recommendation has been made following a report from the Norwegian Medicines Agency of four new reports of serious blood clotting events in adults after vaccination with Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. It has not been concluded that there is any link between the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and these cases. However, acting on the precautionary principal, and pending receipt of further information, the NIAC has recommended the temporary deferral of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca vaccination programme in Ireland.

The NIAC is due to meet again this morning. A further statement will follow thereafter.
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This is the statement our government have released about it :

Covid Vaccine Update

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Following new information received from the Norwegian Medicines Agency on Saturday evening 13th March and following discussions with the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA), the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) has recommended that the administration of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca be temporarily deferred from this morning, Sunday 14th March.

This recommendation has been made following a report from the Norwegian Medicines Agency of four new reports of serious blood clotting events in adults after vaccination with Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. It has not been concluded that there is any link between the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and these cases. However, acting on the precautionary principal, and pending receipt of further information, the NIAC has recommended the temporary deferral of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca vaccination programme in Ireland.

The NIAC is due to meet again this morning. A further statement will follow thereafter.
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That's fair enough, would be good to know out of how many vaccinations, and I guess these are all over 80?
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Hopefully some studies will be under way to see.if there is any link between the vaccine and clots. Seriously hope there isn't but it needs proving one way or the other for everyone's peace of mind. Those who have already had it and those getting it in the coming weeks.
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Hopefully some studies will be under way to see.if there is any link between the vaccine and clots. Seriously hope there isn't but it needs proving one way or the other for everyone's peace of mind. Those who have already had it and those getting it in the coming weeks.
It does seem precautionary, I'm sure your dad will be fine, I found another article
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..yeah, I agree and said earlier that it feels a or cautionary thing to enable it to be looked into and better to act safely and with caution, you know...I’m sure it’ll be fine, Annie...it’s a tiny percentage of so many vaccinations having been carried out and as yet there is no link, just looking into possibility of....
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It does seem precautionary, I'm sure your dad will be fine, I found another article
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To be honest my Dad had it over 4 weeks ago now so I'm sure that any effects would have presented themselves now.
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To be honest my Dad had it over 4 weeks ago now so I'm sure that any effects would have presented themselves now.
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...Annie......I’m sure he’ll be fine, my love...I know that it’s easier said but please try not to feel panicked because some precautionary measures are being taken atm...
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They did say to us ... worst effects in the first 15 minutes.. with others in the following two weeks ..


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...positive Zizu, I’m loving it......and I totally agree, it would be unlikely to take around 4 weeks for reaction to the vaccine to be known...
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with the millions that have been vaccinated in the UK, if there are any medical issues from vaccines, it will be easy to find out
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...indeed, we’ve never had this type of scale before with a newly developed vaccine and precautionary measures such as those happening atm are inevitable and I think more will happen from time to time...it’s a good thing that any possible links are looked at early...
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if it were connected to the vaccine, you would expect thousands to be in hospital by now, so i am sceptical to say the least that there is a direct link.

Health issues are very complex, no one should be jumping to premature conclusions
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You should wait 10-15 mins before leaving after ANY vaccine because of the risk of allergic reaction - they might let people go if they're with someone (and not driving) but ideally you should wait. Anaphylaxis is very rare but it's unpredictable and you need to act fast if it happens so best to still be on site.

It's no more or less likely with any vaccine. My wife had a few boosters before she started her first job after uni (hep B and things like that) and I usually went with her, and we always were advised to wait 10 mins after.

It is just advice though, obviously it's on you if you leave by choice but it is sensible to hang back at least for a few minutes.

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Even when skye/james got their baby vacines, we were told to hang round a little afterwards just incase. And those are as 'safe and tested' as they could possily ever be really by this stage.

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People vaccinated up to and including 14 March 2021

First dose: 24,453,221

Second dose: 1,610,280

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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So the number of clotting incidents have been similar to Pfizer and both the WHO and EMA all say AZ is fine to use, but individual countries have pulled it, and they say its not political
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they have checked the stats on blood clots since they started vaccinating and the number of instances in the general population have gone down since the vaccination program started, which really doesn't tie in with something causing a problem
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they have checked the stats on blood clots since they started vaccinating and the number of instances in the general population have gone down since the vaccination program started, which really doesn't tie in with something causing a problem
yeah something is off with this tale, AZ are selling at cost maybe that is the issue for other vaccines coming on stream, no dosh out of it if AZ continues at cost
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