[setanta]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

I am not condoning it.......................looking at the bigger picture!

I am not an England fan by the way, but I can see the bigger picture, it's about what he does on the pitch!

How do you know they would not defend Wayne Bridges if roles reversed? How can you say this?

Wayne happily leant JT his house on occasion so JT could get it on with another wannabee so this shows Wayne condoned extra martial affairs!!

I can see it from what you're saying about Terry, being an important part of the England team and crucial to Englands chances. You're bypassing all the shŁte and just talking about his commitment on the football pitch which is not the issue here. Every single player on a squad commits themselves to their team, but sure what kind team unity are you going to have when your captain has been f"Łking the mother of one of his teammates children?

As I said before, if Wayne Bridge or Warnock or Agbonlahor had done something like this you'd want them out the door, no questions asked.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

John Terry is not just one of the team, he is the Captain, the highest level of achievement in English football, awarded as a great honour to the player deemed the most worthy of ALL the players in England. He is a figurehead, and a role model for aspiring career footballers, and it is his responsibility NOT to participate in any behaviour that brings the position of Captain, the game of football, his country or his team into disrepute. When he was found out he scurried off to his lawyers to invoke a super injunction to prevent the press from printing the stories. Thankfully, for once, the Courts threw out his application BECAUSE the stories were true, and there was no basis to withhold them from the public. Any misfortune that befalls himself personally or the England team because of the fall out is completely due to his own actions.

Terry may be a great footballer, but he does not have the strength of character and scruples to be a worthy holder of the captaincy. Capello can deploy him on the field where, perhaps, he can redeem himself by doing what he is being paid megabucks to do and take England to victory in the World cup, but it should not be as Captain. That boat should well and truly have sailed for Terry.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by angus58

John Terry is not just one of the team, he is the Captain, the highest level of achievement in English football, awarded as a great honour to the player deemed the most worthy of ALL the players in England. He is a figurehead, and a role model for aspiring career footballers, and it is his responsibility NOT to participate in any behaviour that brings the position of Captain, the game of football, his country or his team into disrepute. When he was found out he scurried off to his lawyers to invoke a super injunction to prevent the press from printing the stories. Thankfully, for once, the Courts threw out his application BECAUSE the stories were true, and there was no basis to withhold them from the public. Any misfortune that befalls himself personally or the England team because of the fall out is completely due to his own actions.

Terry may be a great footballer, but he does not have the strength of character and scruples to be a worthy holder of the captaincy. Capello can deploy him on the field where, perhaps, he can redeem himself by doing what he is being paid megabucks to do and take England to victory in the World cup, but it should not be as Captain. That boat should well and truly have sailed for Terry.

Well reading everything you have said, you are very true however judging by the colour past of majority of top Engalnd players, who is worthy?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by setanta

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

[setanta]

Originally Posted by wannashag

i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?

i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

[setanta]

Originally Posted by wannashag

i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.

[Enid]

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Enid

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

Fair enough, but it shouldnt have any effect on the football field. As a matter of fact, it usually means the player focuses a lot more on the field, when he is dealing with off field issues. Thats speaking from things that I have observed.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Enid

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

His Wife and kids
are in Dubai
away from this Circus.

[Wildcat!]

The WC is so much about national pride, on a non violent, beautiful, sporting event, you only focus on the craft, itself. At least I do! I only see how good, or how bad they play on the field. Terry is a beast on the field. He can make a difference, in games.

I soo wish, senegal was going this year!

But the WC is da bomb regardless!!!

[rapunza1977]

Alan Shearar has gone on to say he is the best man for the job, albeit this is a huge feck up but I bet many players in that dressing room want him there,

[rapunza1977]

it happens every day

best mates run off with best mates partners, it's because these guys are in the public domain they are supposed ot be saints - more full them for causing it but come on - look at the footy players that get sent behind bars, the come out to plat again for top teams,

[setanta]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

it happens every day

best mates run off with best mates partners, it's because these guys are in the public domain they are supposed ot be saints - more full them for causing it but come on - look at the footy players that get sent behind bars, the come out to plat again for top teams,

You don't get it here. They play for England together. He's the England captain. They were really good friends and hung out together with their girlfriends.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

You don't get it here. They play for England together. He's the England captain. They were really good friends and hung out together with their girlfriends.

I hear you - but its still no argument for him to be sacked from captain

[Vicky.]

The difference between it being Terry and Joe public though, in his job, he IS, whether he likes it or not, a rolemodel to others. He should behave accordingly.

Dont see any reason for him to be sacked though

[Angus]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

The difference between it being Terry and Joe public though, in his job, he IS, whether he likes it or not, a rolemodel to others. He should behave accordingly.

Dont see any reason for him to be sacked though

Am not suggesting he be sacked, I am saying he should be stripped of the captaincy.

[informer]

he is a total low class peasant and an overgrown chav...his parents have been involved in drug deals and shoplifting and he was also in the papers for 'roasting' a football groupie in ibiza or somewhere

plus he is from barking in essex , the BNP stronghold...and even resembles a thug

when he speaks its embarassing with that thick as **** accent

he is just a big fat lump who tackles in defence and likes to think of himself as the 'guvnor' or whatever..

a total waste of spunk in terms of a human being

and the fact he was willing to shag a close friends missus is shocking...shows he is nothing more than an animal

[Alf]

my mum had an affair when i was a kid, which led to my parents splitting up, growing up i still saw both my parents as role models and have huge respect for them both.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ultimately he will not win the world cup with England as he has not the moral fibre/balls/courage to do it.


haha

dreams

shattered

again

[informer]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ultimately he will not win the world cup with England as he has not the moral fibre/balls/courage to do it.


haha

dreams

shattered

again

he should be on a building site somewhere if he wasnt a footballer

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by informer

he should be on a building site somewhere if he wasnt a footballer

he would be with the EDL

[informer]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he would be with the EDL

He was born and raised in Barking, Essex....THE Bnp stroghold......and his face would fit right in...

[rapunza1977]

this is my point, one has been done for assult and the other has had affairs as well as sex tapes, who out there has not scandal within the England team........

[Chantel]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

this is my point, one has been done for assult and the other has had affairs as well as sex tapes, who out there has not scandal within the England team........

Exactly