[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jords

I am sick of hearing this victim card nonsense.

John James through a pillow at her, so she SPRINKLED a bit of water on his face, he then tried to drag her to the pool but then just soaked her with water from a glass I think. But when he dragged her it caused her to get carpet burns and maybe her flashing, so she joked she is leaving but wanted to go to the DR just because she was highly worried her vajayjay showed (which is reasonable). He got all serious, not Sunshine, she actually came out thinking they were just having fun..

I didn't see it - I am going by what has been said on here - but, from what you say, it seems JJ started it! Not what others have said - sounds like they conveniently left that bit out! She sprinkled a bit of water at him in response - and he overeacts big time - not unusual for him of course Also confirms in my mind that she had no idea he would react that way - and that she wasn't just parading around knickerless as people have implied!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by starry

I hate amateur psychobabble but some of the BB audience are full of it unfortunately.

What a poor defence against the point being made.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Livia

Don't make yourself look silly by spouting your amateur psychobabble... because you're starting to look a little... manic.

Hmm... hypocrite much?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I didn't see it - I am going by what has been said on here - but, from what you say, it seems JJ started it! Not what others have said - sounds like they conveniently left that bit out! She sprinkled a bit of water at him in response - and he overeacts big time - not unusual for him of course Also confirms in my mind that she had no idea he would react that way - and that she wasn't just parading around knickerless as people have implied!

PLEASE wait until you HAVE seen it before handing out the blame

[ange7]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Hmm... hypocrite much?

did Livia say that?
what a rude and cheap shot.
Liv don't be so nasty and horribly personal.

:P

[starry]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Hmm... hypocrite much?

John has been playing the victim this morning, why don't you just admit it? Is it that difficult?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

PLEASE wait until you HAVE seen it before handing out the blame

I don't need to - I trust Jord's description of events!

[Jords]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I didn't see it - I am going by what has been said on here - but, from what you say, it seems JJ started it! Not what others have said - sounds like they conveniently left that bit out! She sprinkled a bit of water at him in response - and he overeacts big time - not unusual for him of course Also confirms in my mind that she had no idea he would react that way - and that she wasn't just parading around knickerless as people have implied!

Im not sure if she was thrown in the pool or just a glass chucked over her, it was just a glass from what I saw, but he could have done both, anybody know?
And she was wearing knickers, she mentioned them many the times!

Sunshine and John James have clashed after she claimed that he caused her genitals to become exposed upon throwing her into the pool for the second time today.

Ife, Mario and John James tried to calm the sopping wet and stressed 24-year-old medical student after she announced that she was quitting due to her belief that her vagina had been exposed when John James dragged her through the house and garden in just her nighty and threw her into the pool.

"Sunshine, stop being a drama queen," ordered Ife. "You're not going to leave."

"Does that look like a face that's going to leave?" John James asked, as Sunshine broke out into a brief smile.

"I kinda have to be a doctor and that’s going out on TV," she screeched. "I'm not upset because I'm wet - that was funny. Dragging me to the pool with my vagina showing - not funny."

Despite backtracking on her desire to quit, Sunshine still wanted to see Big Brother to confirm whether her private parts had been caught on camera. However, John James was unaware of this and believed that Sunshine was still going to the Diary Room to quit, which angered him as Sunshine had started the dispute after pouring a bottle of water over him while in bed.

"Everything that we’ve done you have started," he stated. "I don’t find it funny when you come over to me and pour a bottle of water on me… Don’t start something that you can't finish."

"Water's water, you made me bleed," Sunshine replied, referring to carpet burns she had received from being dragged across the living area.

"I understand that you get upset [at pranks] Sunshine. I don’t get upset," John James hit back. "I'm serious Sunshine, can you cut with the **** for an hour."

The dispute came to an end when Ife clarified to John James that Sunshine believed she had exposed herself and was merely going to see Big Brother to confirm this. However, Ife later disputed whether Sunshine could tell that she exposed herself and, after Sunshine asked for Mario to comfort her in the Diary Room, disrupted Shabby and Caoimhe's heart-to-heart to vent her frustration.

"I cant even pretend anymore. It's four steps forward and two steps back with Sunshine," she said, continuing her rant by criticising Sunshine for being attention-seeking and for placing the importance of her profession above those of other housemates.

"She chats on and on and on about this medical bollocks," protested Shabby. "If she's that ****ing concerned why is she here?"

Meanwhile John James branded pal David "two-faced" after Caoimhe said that he had relayed to the people in the bedroom a much more aggressive version of events that showed John James in a negative light.

1st bit in bold - clearly shows Sunshine was joking about leaving, JJ just wanted to cause a bigger scene.

2nd to bits - John James CAN NOT take a joke at all the hypocrite!

[ange7]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I don't need to - I trust Jord's description of events!

you are hilarious!!! hehehe
do all your trusted news sources sign off with cute emoticons

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I don't need to - I trust Jord's description of events!

so you are a sheep ? you follow someones opinion and view of things ?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by starry

John has been playing the victim this morning, why don't you just admit it? Is it that difficult?

Whether he is or isnt that has nothing to do with the OP and is, at best, an obvious attempt to deflect the conversation away from Shunsine.

Poor debate

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ange7

you are hilarious!!! hehehe
do all your trusted news sources sign off with cute emoticons

I know he isn't prone to needless exaggeration like many on here!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jords

Im not sure if she was thrown in the pool or just a glass chucked over her, it was just a glass from what I saw, but he could have done both, anybody know?
And she was wearing knickers, she mentioned them many the times!




1st bit in bold - clearly shows Sunshine was joking about leaving, JJ just wanted to cause a bigger scene.

2nd to bits - John James CAN NOT take a joke at all the hypocrite!

I agree that BB will want to paint a a picture of Shunny as a 'victim', that is obviously their 'story' for her. This official account is jaundiced and extremely incomplete, as will the HL show be.

They know what gets the 'victim' crowd all het up.

Drama whoring like Shunny does is very annoying at the least, and at worst potentiolly very destructive.

It's a shame that people condone it by supporting her behaviour.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

so you are a sheep ? you follow someones opinion and view of things ?

Not at all! Just using my judgement based on a combination of factors - a reliable poster, the type of person I believe Sunshine is and the exaggerated accounts of events by many other posters on this forum - as demonstrated on each and every thread!

[p3bbl3z]

Were we all watching a different show last night??
Sunshine clearly had underwear on

[Jords]

Resolved?

Sunshine and John James appeared to make amends this morning after last night's incident involving Sunshine being thrown in the pool.

Talking in the bathroom with fellow housemates Josie and Corin, Sunshine initiated the conversation by telling him that even though he had hurt her, she didn't want to fall out about it.

"I was really upset last night and I went in [the Diary Room] and I wanted to leave," she confirmed, before continuing: "I didn't go in there to say tell John off, I said over and over again I didn't want to get you into trouble."

"The public will see what they are going to see," John James said, shrugging. "I apologise for the carpet bit."

Sunshine told him that the best thing for them to do would be to get on and forget about the incident.

"Both of you just need to stop the joking then because it's going to get out of hand," Corin advised the pair.

Josie agreed that they should put it behind them, telling John James later that she didn't want to hear about it all day and that he should stop being miserable.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jords

Resolved?

I have already addressed your question.

I am not sure why you are asking it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I have already addressed your question.

I am not sure why you are asking it.

I just KNOW you don't talk like that in real life LOL...

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Livia

I just KNOW you don't talk like that in real life LOL...

Attempting to move the thread to me instead of talking about the topic at hand...

Naughty

[Livia]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Attempting to move the thread to me instead of talking about the topic at hand...

Naughty

See? What a procrastinator. I have to read your posts because they're hilarious... and wrong.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Livia

See? What a procrastinator. I have to read your posts because they're hilarious... and wrong.

Your still doing it... Trying to troll me with no value personal attacks instead of discussing the point.

Deflection is poor poor debate by people that know they have lost and have nowhere to go

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Your still doing it... Trying to troll me with no value personal attacks instead of discussing the point.

Deflection is poor poor debate by people that know they have lost and have nowhere to go

But your debate is poor since:

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)
B: The screenshots show nothing
C: Your extremly bias against sunshine
Your extremly bias for John James
E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

Back to school for you.

[BB_Eye]

ZOMG All you guyz r PATHETIC. It doesn't matter what Sunshine does, all you Sunshine haters always paint her as an attention seeker. YOUR ALL THE SAME.

Hmm, I sounded like a certain Josie fan there.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

But your debate is poor since:

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)
B: The screenshots show nothing
C: Your extremly bias against sunshine
Your extremly bias for John James
E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

Back to school for you.

lol ok, here we go... Dannys here with his silly points... one at a time then...

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)

I never said I did. I did though see the parts I am am criticising Shunshine for fully.

I saw her grandstand for the other HMs, complain about 'bleeding all over' (emotive lieing), check the cameras, and then run right to the DR to say it all again to camera (again). All over something she herself started, fully knowing what would happen.

I heard her say herself to Corin in bed what she said to BB.

I saw her drama ***** as she played the victim (again).

B: The screenshots show nothing

I have never claimed they did, just that they might be good for all the Shunny apologists that didnt even watch the LF they are so vehemently saying is wrong.

C: Your extremly bias against sunshine

Yes, I do hate her showboating and me me attitude. I do hate her whining and victim stance. I do hate her fake contrived personality.

But... If your going to discount me for that, I can also discount everything you say as false for very obvious reasons.

Your extremly bias for John James

Wrong.

I am balanced about JJ. I fully recognise all his faults and flaws.

His faults and flaws do not make him always in the wrong automatically though, no matter how it might suit the 'victim' crowd.

E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

What media sources? The extremely clipped and jaundiced official account?

I have actually responded to that in another thread, but post me a link if there have been others I have missed.




Want to try again?

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by vesavius

lol ok, here we go... Dannys here with his silly points... one at a time then...

A: You didn't see it on LF (fully)

I never said I did. I did though see the parts I am am criticising Shunshine for fully.

I saw her grandstand for the other HMs, complain about 'bleeding all over' (emotive lieing), check the cameras, and then run right to the DR to say it all again to camera (again). All over something she herself started, fully knowing what would happen.

I heard her say herself to Corin in bed what she said to BB.

I saw her drama ***** as she played the victim (again).

B: The screenshots show nothing

I have never claimed they did, just that they might be good for all the Shunny apologists that didnt even watch the LF they are so vehemently saying is wrong.

C: Your extremly bias against sunshine

Yes, I do hate her showboating and me me attitude. I do hate her whining and victim stance. I do hate her fake contrived personality.

But... If your going to discount me for that, I can also discount everything you say are false.

Your extremly bias for John James

Wrong.

I am balanced about JJ. I fully recognise all his faults and flaws.

His faults and flaws do not make him always in the wrong automatically though, no matter how it might suit the 'victim' crowd.

E: You fail to respond to the media scources which show what actually happenned

What media sources? The extremely clipped and jaundiced official account?

I have actually responded to that in another thread.




Want to try again?

No, because you just proved my point.

Your bias, didn't see it and failed to respond to articles which show what happenned .

Both as bad as each other over the whole incident IMO, just don't understand how you can say shes attention seeking and playing the victim - She went to DR, asked BB not to show her clunge and went to bed. This morning she made up with JJ and said not to talk about it anymore. Hardly attention seeking or playing the victim.