[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

YOu know why you think that? Exactly because of my point. They are actually able to talk and acknowledge racism, in most places. Of course it exist, the difference is, people arent shy about talking and having discussions. Which is exactly whats lacking in this situation, and thats why you think its not a problem. Because its diverse, you think its not racist? LOL!
Have you seen how those so called multi communities are segragated around here? Everyone stays in their area. I know for a fact its not like that in most of the US. They encourage integration a lot more. There are of course cases where its not, but whats more important, is people take an active role in trying to remedy that! They have made more progress when it comes to race, than any modern country in the past 10 20 years. ITs not happenning here from my observations. And Ive seen both sides. Ive lived both sides, and I dont go with one element in the press like Hurricane Katrina. I go with what Ive seen!

Anyways, this debate is never ending, because people dont want to hear it, so I will just leave it at that, and hope some actually learn something from it.

No, there is nothing to hear! Where exactly do you live in London? As most of the London I know is very mixed & multi-cultural. Down here in Portsmouth is the same, yes there is racism, but there is racism everywhere, just the same as there are homophobic people everywhere (as a gay man I live with predjudice as well)... If Mario had been voted out I could scream that the UK public are all homophobic, but I wouldn't as that is codswallop... By the way I loathe Mario, but would you keep in all the black housemates simply because they were black? Or does someones personality & behaviour have any bearing to you??

[Fuzzylogic]

I don't think they were voted out for race reasons, they were all pretty **** housemates.

But if like you say is true and white folks have subconsciously voted them out, then I blame the likes of the Sun and the Daily Mail with their bigoted propaganda about "immigrants." I've noticed people in the last few years have become more racist than they have been as they feel that can get away with it more now. It only takes one person in a group in a pub or in work talking about immigration to say "and as for the blacks and the p*kis..." and the floodgates open. It's scary how many people actually hold closeted racist views.

People say Australians are racist, well I lived in Australia for year, and when I came home I noticed that we as a nation are FAR more racists than they are.

[dannyboy]

I honestly believe that race was not the issue in any of these cases, though based on eviction statistics I can see how it is a possible conclusion to come to. It struck me how all the black housemates were evicted very quickly this year. But to accuse the British public of outright racism is rather extreme, because I don't think it's the case. To be fair, Ife Govan and Jo all pretty much deserved to go, and it was because of their behaviour (though I felt rather gutted for Jo just before she left, listening to the nasty stuff the JJs were saying about her)

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by Fuzzylogic

People say Australians are racist, well I lived in Australia for year, and when I came home I noticed that we as a nation are FAR more racists than they are.

I wonder if the Aborigines see it that way?

[Fuzzylogic]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

I wonder if the Aborigines see it that way?

Probably not. They have been treated appallingly.

Sorry I probably worded that wrong. I meant the Australian public nowadys, rather than the government.

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by Fuzzylogic

Probably not. They have been treated appallingly.

Sorry I probably worded that wrong. I meant the Australian public nowadys, rather than the government.

Still doesnt wash im afraid....the Oz Gov' are voted in by the Oz public based on those policies.

[StGeorge]

And as for the British Public being against immigrants? The main target has been the 100s of 1000s of eastern block people who came and undercut the Brits to get the jobs, and milk our benefits system illegally to send money back to their families. Your damn right that pissed me off.

And BTW....those immigrants were white people.

[Fuzzylogic]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

Still doesnt wash im afraid....the Oz Gov' are voted in by the Oz public based on those policies.

Fair point. To be honest I have not followed Australian politics since leaving so I can't comment.

All I'm saying is that in my experience the Australian people I met were tolerent and didn't come across as bigoted. But then I suppose they could still hold racist views and just not expressed them to me, and I guess I wouldn't associate myself with the type of people who would be bigoted anyway.

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by Fuzzylogic

Fair point. To be honest I have not followed Australian politics since leaving so I can't comment.

All I'm saying is that in my experience the Australian people I met were tolerent and didn't come across as bigoted. But then I suppose they could still hold racist views and just not expressed them to me, and I guess I wouldn't associate myself with the type of people who would be bigoted anyway.

I bet there are millions of people in Britain who are tolerant and not racist....now how many Aussies did you meet??

[Fuzzylogic]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

And as for the British Public being against immigrants? The main target has been the 100s of 1000s of eastern block people who came and undercut the Brits to get the jobs, and milk our benefits system illegally to send money back to their families. Your damn right that pissed me off.

And BTW....those immigrants were white people.

As I pointed out xenophobia is just a step away from racism, it opens the gate for it.

As for people milking benefits illegally, there are plenty of British people doing the same thing, they should crack down on EVERYONE who is illegally claiming benefits. the "at least their English" excuse doesn't wash with me.

[MusicMan]

Just saw this thread: the OP's claims are ridiculous.
If Jo was white, she would still have been evicted.
Many housemates over the years have been evicted for 'no reason', not only black housemates.
The fact that Adele left to a chorus of boos is not out of the ordinary - so many nice and lovely housemates have left to boos, black and white.
Charley was hated because she was a malicious housemate, not because she was black.
It stuns me completely that such claims could be made, and the fact that Brian Belo and Nadia Almada won their respective series' completely blows these claims of racism out of the water.

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by Fuzzylogic

As I pointed out xenophobia is just a step away from racism, it opens the gate for it.

As for people milking benefits illegally, there are plenty of British people doing the same thing, they should crack down on EVERYONE who is illegally claiming benefits. the "at least their English" excuse doesn't wash with me.

Er..not quite right in the context i was referring to....the "English" people are entitled to claim for their children who live in this country....but the Polish that claimed for kids back in Poland were not.

And BTW....why the sudden attack on the "English"?? I thought we lived in a British country?? The English do not have a seperately governed country.