[fruit_cake]

I think they'd have been exposed as frauds if we had LF but we don't

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I think they'd have been exposed as frauds if we had LF but we don't

Am in complete agreement with you. Mind you, Darryn and Paddy seemed to give over the impression that they were super hyped up 24/7 ....by the way the were speaking last night, so who knows?

You are right, without Live Feed, it's futile.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I think they'd have been exposed as frauds if we had LF but we don't

I think if LF was around this year I personally think the Jedward haters will have liked them more as you would have saw there downtimes instead of the up times all the time.

Anyway the Jedward haters are thinking of stuff that even hindered them or would have helped them without realising it,but never mind.

[fruit_cake]

aye..better game players would have identified their weaknesses when apart from each other and exploited them..but channel 5 has protected them all along seems to me

[Roy Mars III]

Thankfully we didn't have to answer this question.

[fruit_cake]

I'll never forgive Jedward for what they did on x-factor..some of us don't forget where they came from..that girl was good and they ruined it and instead we got them. Leopards don't change their spots

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'll never forgive Jedward for what they did on x-factor..some of us don't forget where they came from..that girl was good and they ruined it and instead we got them. Leopards don't change their spots

Hey at least it werent like Katie Waissel against Aiden last year where it was Katies 4th time in the bottom two while it was only Aidens 1st time in the bottom two,and the judges sent it to deadlock knowing Aiden got the fewest votes.

Also TBF it was both Jedward and Lucies 1st time in the bottom two,although I dont approve of what happened,it makes more sense than the bottom two above.

[fruit_cake]

poor Aiden he's gone forever never to return

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

poor Aiden he's gone forever never to return

did he die?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zippy

did he die?

[joeysteele]

I said 'deemed' losers Zippy,not that 'I' thought them losers,I said that in response to your logic?as to saying that. Your logic being that someone coming 3rd out of 10 is a loser, your words not mine,so by the same token that must make those who came below 3rd in your logic, even greater losers rather than 2 of them finishing in the top half of the series.

I don't think any of them are losers as such, but if as you claim Jedward are losers coming 3rd, then those in 4th to 10 th must really be losers.
I doubt 'most' people here or anywhere else would subscribe to that view.

Anyway, as ever I agree to disagree with you on that.

[fruit_cake]

seems to me that Jedward had an unfair advantage the whole series, channel five favoured them in the highlights show, and they had each other for moral support in the same way that Samanda did.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

seems to me that Jedward had an unfair advantage the whole series, channel five favoured them in the highlights show, and they had each other for moral support in the same way that Samanda did.

CH5 need to balance what housemates are allowed to bring in......I cannot believe Jedward would have got all their trick outfits ito one suitcase.

I hope the other housemates were given a vertual unlimited amount of luggage to take in. If not Jedward would have been given an unfair advantage.....

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by bananarama

CH5 need to balance what housemates are allowed to bring in......I cannot believe Jedward would have got all their trick outfits ito one suitcase.

I hope the other housemates were given a vertual unlimited amount of luggage to take in. If not Jedward would have been given an unfair advantage.....

good point.. definitely something not quite as it seems

[bananarama]

All this talk about what a winner is. Simple!!!! in a competition with one prize there can only be one winner. All the rest be they second or third or what ever are the losers.....

Saying runner ups are winners is like saying people with two correct numbers on a lottery ticket are also winners because the were next to those with three correct numbers. One prize equalls one winner........

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by bananarama

One prize equalls one winner........

one prize one goal
One golden glance of what should be
It's a kind of magic

[Zippy]

If you don't win then you lose. By definition you are a loser. If you are expected to win and then only come 3rd....you are definitely a loser.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Zippy

If you don't win then you lose. By definition you are a loser. If you are expected to win and then only come 3rd....you are definitely a loser.

given the unfair advantage they had all series 3rd was a pretty ordinary performance at best.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zippy

If you don't win then you lose. By definition you are a loser. If you are expected to win and then only come 3rd....you are definitely a loser.

So by your logic say if a football team finish 3rd in the table you would say they were losers. If a record got to 3 in the charts,its a flop because it didnt get to number one.

Or is 3rd only a losing place if Jedward are placed there,

If you ever decide to debate fairly one day Zippy, I may rise to your bait. All the best to you for now though.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

So by your logic say if a football team finish 3rd in the table you would say they were losers. If a record got to 3 in the charts,its a flop because it didnt get to number one.

If they were expected to finish top, yes. If they were expected to get to no1, yes.

It's all relative. And last night they were the biggest losers because they had the highest expectations.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zippy

If they were expected to finish top, yes. If they were expected to get to no1, yes.

It's all relative. And last night they were the biggest losers because they had the highest expectations.

Jedward,Zippy, never once said they were going to win it at all,never at all. So they unless you've spoken directly to them ,they did not have that expectation,so again by your logic and wording, they are far from losers.

Just saying, as Brian would say,

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

So by your logic say if a football team finish 3rd in the table you would say they were losers. If a record got to 3 in the charts,its a flop because it didnt get to number one.

Or is 3rd only a losing place if Jedward are placed there,

If you ever decide to debate fairly one day Zippy, I may rise to your bait. All the best to you for now though.

anyone who come out of a show 3rd and still has SO MANY people discussing them, talking about them, and not just their fans can NEVER be classed as losers.

If anything: it proves that the terminology WINNER is a very loose one as far as gameshows / entertainment shows are concerned.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

anyone who come out of a show 3rd and still has SO MANY people discussing them, talking about them, and not just their fans can NEVER be classed as losers.

If anything: it proves that the terminology WINNER is a very loose one as far as gameshows / entertainment shows are concerned.

loads of people talk about Ted Bundy and Adolf Hitler too

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

loads of people talk about Ted Bundy and Adolf Hitler too

Goodwins Law !!!

And not usually in respect of entertainment shows.....deary me!! LOL

[Shasown]

In the long run their appearance on BB will only have added to their earning potential, they will have pleased their fanbase with their antics on the show. Consequently thier agent will ask for more money for appearances etc.

So losers, nah I dont think so.