[billy123]

The flag waving "we dunt curr bout ne1 goo amurrrca" attitude just confirms everything anybody needed to know!
At this time i am ashamed of the behaviour of my own country for the first time in my life.
What i think of the US behaviour is just unrepeatable on this forum.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by bobnot

The flag waving "we dunt curr bout ne1 goo amurrrca" attitude just confirms everything anybody needed to know at this time i am ashamed of the behaviour of my own country for the first time in my life what i think of the US is just unrepeatable on this forum.

It's only unrepeatable because you are being overly emotional.

If you were thinking clearly you could explain your thoughts in a way that would not break forum rules.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It's only unrepeatable because you are being overly emotional.

If you were thinking clearly you could explain your thoughts in a way that would not break forum rules.

Im not overly emotional about anything Alex.
Some things are best unsaid.

[lostalex]

I'd just like to say that for the record, i think that the US should say once and for all whether or not they plan on charging Assange with anything. Just so we can end this guessing game. If the US wants to charge him, then they should request extradition now, if they do not, then they should say so publicly so that Assange can stop using it as an excuse to avoid his troubles in Sweden.

If it were up to me, i'd say, we have Manning, that's the guy that committed the real crime, the US should openly say that we don't want Assange.

That's how i feel about it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'd just like to say that for the record, i think that the US should say once and for all whether or not they plan on charging Assange with anything. Just so we can end this guessing game. If the US wants to charge him, then they should request extradition now, if they do not, then they should say so publicly so that Assange can stop using it as an excuse to avoid his troubles in Sweden. If it were up to me, i'd say, we have Manning, that's the guy that committed the real crime, the US should openly say that we don't want Assange. That's how i feel about it.

No they (CIA)are going to kill him.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

No they (CIA)are going to kill him.

yu have a twisted sense of humor Arista, i like it

[arista]

Yes well said
the truth.

[arista]

He gave a Good Speech today

[MTVN]

Youtube video

"The United States must pledge before the world that it will not prosecute journalists for shining a light on the secret crimes of the powerful."

[the truth]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Youtube video

"The United States must pledge before the world that it will not prosecute journalists for shining a light on the secret crimes of the powerful."

amen

[the truth]

‘Assange case part of long history of whistleblower-smearing’Political activist Craig Murray, a former UK ambassador whose writings implicated the CIA and MI6 in using evidence obtained through torture, claimed the allegations of sexual assault against Assange are the latest incident in a history of dubious charges leveled against whistleblowers.
“Unfortunately, there’s a long history of whistleblowers being smeared and charged with crimes unrelated to their whistleblowing, because, obviously, it’s quite difficult for states to convict people for telling the truth about state misdemeanors,” he told RT. “So what you do is you frame them with other charges, very often sexual charges because that destroys the person’s reputation.”
Murray pointed to the charges he faced for allegedly extorting sexual favors in exchange for visas during his tenure as ambassador to Uzbekistan, shortly after he blew the whistle on US- and UK-led torture programs.
“And I am by no means the only one. Janis Karpinsky, who blew the whistle on Donald Rumsfeld’s sanctioning of torture at Abu Ghraib, was charged with shoplifting, for example. There are many such examples,” he said.
Murray also argued that British Foreign Secretary William Hague embarrassed himself by ordering the sending of a letter that threatened to revoke the Ecuadorian embassy's diplomatic immunity, simply so that UK authorities could arrest Assange.
“He once gave an interview in which he said that as a student, he used to drink 14 pints of beer a day,” Murray said. “I think he must have drunk 28 pints before coming up with the threat to storm the Ecuadorian embassy.”

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

‘Assange case part of long history of whistleblower-smearing’Political activist Craig Murray, a former UK ambassador whose writings implicated the CIA and MI6 in using evidence obtained through torture, claimed the allegations of sexual assault against Assange are the latest incident in a history of dubious charges leveled against whistleblowers.
“Unfortunately, there’s a long history of whistleblowers being smeared and charged with crimes unrelated to their whistleblowing, because, obviously, it’s quite difficult for states to convict people for telling the truth about state misdemeanors,” he told RT. “So what you do is you frame them with other charges, very often sexual charges because that destroys the person’s reputation.”
Murray pointed to the charges he faced for allegedly extorting sexual favors in exchange for visas during his tenure as ambassador to Uzbekistan, shortly after he blew the whistle on US- and UK-led torture programs.
“And I am by no means the only one. Janis Karpinsky, who blew the whistle on Donald Rumsfeld’s sanctioning of torture at Abu Ghraib, was charged with shoplifting, for example. There are many such examples,” he said.
Murray also argued that British Foreign Secretary William Hague embarrassed himself by ordering the sending of a letter that threatened to revoke the Ecuadorian embassy's diplomatic immunity, simply so that UK authorities could arrest Assange.
“He once gave an interview in which he said that as a student, he used to drink 14 pints of beer a day,” Murray said. “I think he must have drunk 28 pints before coming up with the threat to storm the Ecuadorian embassy.”

tells you everything you need to know. The guys was exploiting women in his position, basically running a Visas for Blow Jobs con. The guy is protecting his own ass, and just like Assange is trying to get out of his own wrongdoings by claiming theres a conspiracy against him!

[billy123]

Anonymous begin attacks on swedish goverment websites.
Good on them.

We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Expect Us

Here is one that has been compromised http://primavi.se/

Protests also gaining momentum in new york outside the british consulate.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/257314....medium=twitter

To anyone getting prissy about it not being on the bbc website dilligaf.

[billy123]

Julian will never walk alone.

Youtube video

[the truth]

some quotes from yesterday...

"The United States must pledge before the world will not pursue journalists for shining light on the secret crimes of the powerful. The US administration’s war against whistleblowers must end," he said.




He also spoke on Bradley Manning, the Army Private who was slapped with 22 criminal charges for his alleged role in leaking intelligence documents to WikiLeaks, which were then made publicly available on the Internet. Manning has been imprisoned for more than 800 days in pre-trial detention, and has yet to be brought before a military tribunal.
"On Wednesday, Bradley spent his 815th day of detention without trial. The legal maximum is 120 days," Assange said. "If Bradley Manning did as he is accused, he is a hero and invaluable to all of us. Bradley Manning must be released."


In his remarks, Assange mentioned jailed Bahraini human rights activists Nabeel Rajab, who had recently been sentenced to six months in prison for tweeting comments critical of the Bahraini Prime Minister, calling for him to step down. On August 16, a Bahraini court ruled to extend his sentence by another three years, for “involvement in illegal practices and inciting gatherings and calling for unauthorized marches through social networking sites,” and for his “participation in an illegal assembly” and “participation in an illegal gathering and calling for a march without prior notification.”



Assange case part of long history of whistleblower-smearing’
Political activist Craig Murray, a former UK ambassador whose writings implicated the CIA and MI6 in using evidence obtained through torture, claimed the allegations of sexual assault against Assange are the latest incident in a history of dubious charges leveled against whistleblowers.

“Unfortunately, there’s a long history of whistleblowers being smeared and charged with crimes unrelated to their whistleblowing, because, obviously, it’s quite difficult for states to convict people for telling the truth about state misdemeanors,” he told RT. “So what you do is you frame them with other charges, very often sexual charges because that destroys the person’s reputation.”

Murray pointed to the charges he faced for allegedly extorting sexual favors in exchange for visas during his tenure as ambassador to Uzbekistan, shortly after he blew the whistle on US- and UK-led torture programs.

“And I am by no means the only one. Janis Karpinsky, who blew the whistle on Donald Rumsfeld’s sanctioning of torture at Abu Ghraib, was charged with shoplifting, for example. There are many such examples,” he said.

Murray also argued that British Foreign Secretary William Hague embarrassed himself by ordering the sending of a letter that threatened to revoke the Ecuadorian embassy's diplomatic immunity, simParc y Scarletso that UK authorities could arrest Assange.

“He once gave an interview in which he said that as a student, he used to drink 14 pints of beer a day,” Murray said. “I think he must have drunk 28 pints before coming up with the threat to storm the Ecuadorian embassy.”

[the truth]

rubbish. theyve been after assange for 6 years, when they realised he was getting more powerful and more support they then threw this accusation at him. theres been no charges made, no arrest and no new evidence. hes offered to be interviewed by swedish authorities at the embassy in london, yet the swedes have refused? if the swedes are so concerned why have they taken up the offer , why havent they produced new evidence?

[arista]

"Assange is trying to get out of his own wrongdoings by claiming theres a conspiracy against him! "



Yes that is a Valid Point.



Anyway he can stay safe forever
as he is a VIP that can help win elections.



Looking at the Bigger Picture

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

"Assange is trying to get out of his own wrongdoings by claiming theres a conspiracy against him! "



Yes that is a Valid Point.



Anyway he can stay safe forever
as he is a VIP that can help win elections.



Looking at the Bigger Picture

its not valid at all

there been a witch hunt after him for 5 years prior to this allegation, simply because hes exposed the mass corruption across the political world. the man should be given a nobel peace prize for risking life and limb to allow the world access to information they should know

IF the swedes actually have a case against him, let them interview him in the embassy as he has offered. the case was dropped 2 years ago, there was insufficient evidence. if they want to interview him, then get on the plane and go interview him. if they have enough evidence to charge him, then we will see if he gets to court. the bottom line is youre innocent until proven guilty. trial my media always fail

funny how the british government made exceptions for general pinochet and the european courts made exceptions for roman polansky. the powers that be can bend the laws depending on what suits their self interests. take strauss khan head of the IMF, the biggest economic job in the world., sacked over allegations. yet found innocent. still doesnt get his job back. now we have a woman , radical feminist running the IMF, who has no economic background at all? and we wonder why the world isnt coming out of recession? crazy

dont get me wrong, if the swedes interview him and find enough holes in his defence and find enough evidence to charge him, I want him in a court of law facing the charges

as for rape. there are various degress of rape, just as there are various degrees of any and all crime. that is why we have different sentences, different judgements, different punishments, thats why we have different degrees of murder, manslaughter, comon assault and battery and so on. rape also has different degrees of crime and punishment. theres nothing wrong with stating that fact without the ever more hysterical news getting their knickers in a twist.


as for the americans well they have no right to try and extradict assange for their own ends as theyve done in the past. Assange has been clever enough to get the entire world watching what happens and this may perhaps at least shame the americans into not taking the law into their own hands.

[arista]

"there been a witch hunt after him for 5 years prior to this allegation, simply because hes exposed the mass corruption across the political world"

Yes thats all Valid as well.


He is a VIP with High Power
ideal for that small nation.

[billy123]

Swedish official admits no idea how the deadlock can be resolved or why the prosecutor wont interview Assange outside sweden in interview (he stopped in sweden and remained and answered all questions until the charges were dropped once already) http://audioboo.fm/boos/928311-swedi...ne-bbc-radio-4

[Omah]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Swedish official admits no idea how the deadlock can be resoved or why the prosecutor wont interview Assange outside sweden in interview (he stopped in sweden and remained and answered all questions until the charges were dropped once already) http://audioboo.fm/boos/928311-swedi...bc-radio-4</b>

You're linking to a BBC source ?

Originally Posted by bobnot

What the bbc say and what you can see happening with your own eyes are quite different.

Im suprised you rely the bbc for info omah

Originally Posted by bobnot

oooo it wasnt on the bbc so it didnt happen?

BAA BAAAA BAAA

Originally Posted by bobnot

You stick to your spoon state sponsored fed media shtick theres a good citizen.

There are multiple news sources reporting the same thing just because the bbc isnt one of them is not suprising they are pretty crap.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Omah

You're linking to a BBC source ?

Awww bless so cute. I use a range of sources honey just because a certain source doesnt have a report im interested in at a certain time doesnt make me small minded enough to never use them again only an erm silly person would do that just as a silly person would only rely on one source

Its common sense to use all the outlets available whereas it is just silly to rely on one outlet lmfao x3

[Omah]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Awww bless so cute. I use a range of sources honey just because a certain source doesnt have a report im interested in at a certain time doesnt make me small minded enough to never use them again only an erm silly person would do that just as a silly person would only rely on one source

Its common sense to use all the outlets available whereas it is just silly to rely on one outlet lmfao x3

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Omah

Nice reply it really challenged me



Bye bye again omah.

[Omah]

With key Greek city-states in submission, Philip II of Macedon turned his attention to Sparta and sent a message: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city." The Spartan ephors sent back a one word reply: "If"