[arista]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'm astounded that the school were aware of this way back in February yet chose not to inform the mother of their concerns - knowing that a relationship was blossoming - how the hell can that happen and be left for this amount of time. Some heads need to roll on this one.

Yes and that same Church of England School
had another Teacher doing the same a year back
he was sacked.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes and that same Church of England School
had another Teacher doing the same a year back
he was sacked.

Yes, so I'm reading on Sky.

Unbloody believeable.

In 2009, a teacher at Bishop Bell C of E School was jailed for seven years after grooming two pupils on social networking site Bebo.
Robert Healy, then aged 27, had sex three or four times with one teenage victim after taking her back to his father's house over a period of a fortnight.
Jailing him at Lewes Crown Court, Judge Charles Kemp said his "predatory" behaviour was a "grave breach of trust".

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'm astounded that the school were aware of this way back in February yet chose not to inform the mother of their concerns - knowing that a relationship was blossoming - how the hell can that happen and be left for this amount of time.

Some heads need to roll on this one.

I couldn't believe when I heard that today, that's totally out of order, that the parents weren't told of this.

[arista]

New Photos of the 2 of them
on the Ferry to France
were just shown on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

His car


http://news.sky.com/story/989184/mis...se-ferry-photo

[Mystic Mock]

Once she reaches 18 he will have dumped her to go for another 15 year old, that's if The Police haven't caught him that is.

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Once she reaches 18 he will have dumped her to go for another 15 year old, that's if The Police haven't caught him that is.

he nedd to get caught

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bigbrother12

he nedd to get caught

I know but it's gonna be tough while the pair are in France.

[arista]

"Regardless of the terminology people are using: he is a sex offender"

Very True Pyramid

[arista]

Debate was just on Ch4 news

The School is Guilty as well

[Omah]

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them .....

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Omah

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them .....

A modern day Romeo and Juliet....!!!

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Omah

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them .....

if this happens this thread should be handed into the police as evidence

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

if this happens this thread should be handed into the police as evidence

[fruit_cake]

Well Pyr, I guess we all have subjective experiences and that we grow up with different stories to tell. I don't really like disclosing large amounts of information about myself on random forums but I grew up with distant and emotionally detached parents that I could have slit my wrists in front of them and it certainly felt like they probably wouldn't have noticed.

I, like this girl, couldn't really do any wrong in their eyes either. When I was fifteen I could take drugs, sleep around, disappear for days on end, frankly, do whatever whim took me from one day to the next. I know how empty that feels and although I never did most of those things to any excesses, I do remember it crossing my mind several times to run away, like yourself, when I was a teenager, in the hope that one day some adult figure might actually notice I existed and teach me how to look after myself. I also know as a teenager I would have been able to manipulate most people that were around at the time for those means, and a thirty-something horny teacher with his brain in his trousers would have been a very very easy target.

So, no I don't feel particularly sorry for the parents, and I have my reasons like anyone else does, which likewise are drawn from my own experiences just like anyone else.

At the end of the day though, we all make choices I suppose

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Well Pyr, I guess we all have subjective experiences and that we grow up with different stories to tell. I don't really like disclosing large amounts of information about myself on random forums but I grew up with distant and emotionally detached parents that I could have slit my wrists in front of them and it certainly felt like they probably wouldn't have noticed.

I, like this girl, couldn't really do any wrong in their eyes either. When I was fifteen I could take drugs, sleep around, disappear for days on end, frankly, do whatever whim took me from one day to the next. I know how empty that feels and although I never did most of those things to any excesses, I do remember it crossing my mind several times to run away when I was a teenager, in the hope that one day some adult figure might actually notice I existed and teach me how to look after myself. I also know as a teenager I would have been able to manipulate most people that were around at the time for those means, and a thirty-something horny teacher with his brain in his trousers would have been a very very easy target.

So, no I don't feel particularly sorry for the parents, and I have my reasons like anyone else does, which likewise are drawn from my own experiences just like anyone else.

At the end of the day though, we all make choices I suppose

I did too FC, given that majority of time, I lived either with my grandmother or at boarding school: it still didn't mean I wasn't brave enough (or rather... stupid enough!!) to 'do what I wanted to do' - then realised I'd made a serious fook up as I'd still have to face the music at some point - but that thought was overridden by the excitement of being a runaway and I have to say, the fact that I was in effect, sticking my two fingers up to my parents by saying "I'll do what I want" was the one of the main reasons I did it - coz I actually enjoyed the school!!

Yes, I understand we all have different reasons for how we view things and that comes from our own experiences if we've some correlation but this is one that we are going to agree to disagree on.

I have to say though: I have thought ... what if the parents made a statement/public appeal on the opposite side saying, "Look Megan, we're not angry at what you've done or who you are with: but we are getting bloody angry at you not letting us know how you okay, that you haven't let us know you are alive and well.... a phone call from a phone box is all we are asking now get your bloody arse into gear and at least do that and put us out of our misery"...... it has got me thinking.

Gut feeling in me still says it's still not the way to go.

Apart from anything: the teacher is the one bearing the responsibility - he's meant to be the adult in this 'relationship'. He's showing a hell of a lot of immaturity and selfishness - neither of which are commendable.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I did too FC, given that majority of time, I lived either with my grandmother or at boarding school: it still didn't mean I wasn't brave enough (or rather... stupid enough!!) to 'do what I wanted to do' - then realised I'd made a serious fook up as I'd still have to face the music at some point - but that thought was overridden by the excitement of being a runaway and I have to say, the fact that I was in effect, sticking my two fingers up to my parents by saying "I'll do what I want" was the one of the main reasons I did it - coz I actually enjoyed the school!!

Yes, I understand we all have different reasons for how we view things and that comes from our own experiences if we've some correlation but this is one that we are going to agree to disagree on.

I have to say though: I have thought ... what if the parents made a statement/public appeal on the opposite side saying, "Look Megan, we're not angry at what you've done or who you are with: but we are getting bloody angry at you not letting us know how you okay, that you haven't let us know you are alive and well.... a phone call from a phone box is all we are asking now get your bloody arse into gear and at least do that and put us out of our misery"...... it has got me thinking.

Gut feeling in me still says it's still not the way to go.

Apart from anything: the teacher is the one bearing the responsibility - he's meant to be the adult in this 'relationship'. He's showing a hell of a lot of immaturity and selfishness - neither of which are commendable.

you've certainly come up with a very well thought out and considered responce there Pyr, I certainly hope now that's what the parents do it seems you've covered both the 'bases' there with the caring but also cold responce that we've been talking about. It also sounds like you had an interesting time in your youth that I will have to pick out of you at some other point

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

you've certainly come up with a very well thought out and considered responce there Pyr, I certainly hope now that's what the parents do it seems you've covered both the 'bases' there with the caring but also cold responce that we've been talking about. It also sounds like you had an interesting time in your youth that I will have to pick out of you at some other point

I was a model child I will have you know. till I hit about 14 till about 19 - I used to joke that no wonder my granny had Angina ! (god I shouldn't laugh at that!).

Pick away anytime: my life aint been a boring one that's for sure.

However, we digress.

I'm more surprised that given the car, the reggie being banded about, photos etc: that they have not been spotted yet.

There's a lack of info regarding money for example: no mention of whether he lifted large amounts of cash in run up to France, meaning he wouldnt have to be using ATMs. If not, no mention of ATMs being used, CCTVs showing them being used, credit card usage etc, where (location wise) the message that was sent from her phone to say she'd arrived in France....... there's a distinct lack of info being given out and when that happens: there's usually a very good answer for it..... almost as though the authorities may be close and not wanting them to 'move on' before they get a chance to catch up with them...... or god forbid: the scenario Omah mentioned.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Omah

The pressure on the pair may now be so severe that a suicide pact may be the only way out for them .....

Originally Posted by Nedusa

A modern day Romeo and Juliet....!!!

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

There's a lack of info regarding money for example: no mention of whether he lifted large amounts of cash in run up to France, meaning he wouldnt have to be using ATMs. If not, no mention of ATMs being used, CCTVs showing them being used, credit card usage etc, where (location wise) the message that was sent from her phone to say she'd arrived in France....... there's a distinct lack of info being given out and when that happens: there's usually a very good answer for it..... almost as though the authorities may be close and not wanting them to 'move on' before they get a chance to catch up with them...... or god forbid: the scenario Omah mentioned.

It's a common scenario, too ..... and one that's been made into many films - "Bonnie and Clyde", "Badlands", "Thelma and Louise", etc.

[the truth]

clealry this is a major concern, we hope she will be safe and well, and he will probably go to prison...however its hard to judge exactly until we know more...some relationships between adults and teenage girls have in fact lasted , jerry lee lewis married a 13 year old and they were married for 13 years with 2 children. its clearly a very dodgy area, quite how big a crime this is, is very much open to the details ....clearly his teaching career is over, his repuation in tatters and he will have this on his record for life. on the other hand if she is there on her own free will, perhaps they havent had sex. she may be desperately unhappy at home. so many are, who knows.. be interesting to see how this develops.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by the truth

clealry this is a major concern, we hope she will be safe and well, and he will probably go to prison...however its hard to judge exactly until we know more...some relationships between adults and teenage girls have in fact lasted , jerry lee lewis married a 13 year old and they were married for 13 years with 2 children. its clearly a very dodgy area, quite how big a crime this is, is very much open to the details ....clearly his teaching career is over, his repuation in tatters and he will have this on his record for life. on the other hand if she is there on her own free will, perhaps they havent had sex. she may be desperately unhappy at home. so many are, who knows.. be interesting to see how this develops.

Think the chances of prison time are about nil if our sentencing judges are anything to go by of late. She simply says she went of her own volition, had no sex, he did not force her, didn't try to control her, cared for her etc: threatens to kill herself etc: too many factors there that I think he'd not do time for this.

Ultimately - whether this may or may not work out / last is not what is important.

What is important, and is more telling: is the fact that no contact has been made - and any 30 year old intelligent man, will know and be very aware of the concern and worry this will have caused.

If anything has done them the most harm: it's the avoidance of contact - and the longer that goes on: the worse effect that will have on the entire situation.

[arista]

Some of Tomorrows Papers

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

Some of Tomorrows Papers

I thought I'd read somewhere that the police were aware of this around the same time and the local Council authorities were but I couldn't find it again earlier when I was looking for it to post on here.

Teachers too bloody busy going on strike, and police too bloody arguing with men on bicycles ..... pfft. On a more serious note: it's a disgrace, and absolute bloody disgrace that teachers, the local Council authorites and police were all aware, didn't inform the parents: and still this happened.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

Some of Tomorrows Papers

it getting a bit creepy now post if she is found

[Pyramid*]

This addresses my earlier thoughts - they can't live without money - if he'd been planning this and stashing money away- he'd have to had £s exchanged to euros - and there would be a trace of that - but nothing mentioned about that aspect.

But there has not been a single sighting of the pair anywhere in France and no trace of them using their mobile phones or accessing cash machines, according to the French authorities.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz27YkCJ4AD

Article states that other pupils parents are up in arms (as are Megans parents) that the school knew about this for so long - so too did the Council and the Police. If ever there's been a cockup of magnanimous proportions: it's got to be this considering how many people in authority were aware of this relationship, and in a position to have stopped this happening - but didn't.

Mother says if she'd been aware, there's no way she'd have allowed her extra 'maths' lessons. I'm sure she wouldn't have allowed her daughter to stay overnight with a 'friend' either that Thursday night without being able to check who she was staying with etc. As I said before, heads need to roll.