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Verbal · 21-08-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers

What does a "Master's in Physics" from PRINSTON make you?

You're so desperately eager to point out what you think was a spelling mistake, you're completely unable to see that I was taking the piss.

sassysocks · 21-08-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Daffodil

He acted aggressively and as such shouldn't go scot free... however Hazel didn't get so much as a teeny scratch. It is ironic that all this fuss is being made when out there in the big wide world, women are cowering in corners or semi conscious due to the aggressiveness of their men and the police who turn a blind eye because it's 'just a domestic'.

Exactly - and I wonder how many times it has happened to a partner of Daley's behind closed doors.

Don't you see that the fact he acted like that on public TV makes you wonder what he gets up to behind closed doors. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he has previous 'just a domestic' black marks against him.

DanaC · 21-08-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daffodil

He acted aggressively and as such shouldn't go scot free... however Hazel didn't get so much as a teeny scratch. It is ironic that all this fuss is being made when out there in the big wide world, women are cowering in corners or semi conscious due to the aggressiveness of their men and the police who turn a blind eye because it's 'just a domestic'.

And what he did speaks directly to that culture of violence.

Domestic violence is a progressive thing. It rarely turns into a nightmare over night.

Someone mentioned the thing with the make up. That was very telling. An attempt to engage in controlling behaviour, and specifically controlling what she displayed of herself. This is one of the classic signs that women (and men, but mainly women) are warned to look out for in a new relationship. And one of the signs to look out for if you are worried about someone else in a potentially abusive relationship.

fingers · 21-08-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

You're so desperately eager to point out what you think was a spelling mistake, you're completely unable to see that I was taking the piss.

Clever you!

reece(: · 21-08-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Having a degree in film studies does not make you a film director

Bloody hell, just because someone isn't employed doesn't mean they don't hold the knowledge..are you kidding me.

Verbal · 21-08-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

Bloody hell, just because someone isn't employed doesn't mean they don't hold the knowledge..are you kidding me.

If you've just left Uni and never actually worked as a Lawyer... you're not a Lawyer.

DanaC · 21-08-2013, 09:23 PM

Interestingly, in an article in the Metro (taken i think from the Daily Hatemail) Daley claimed that he would never be violent towards a woman because he himself had been sexually and physically abused as a youngster.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/21/big-br...nyone-3891640/

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He told The Daily Star: ‘I’ve been through abuse. It was sexual stuff when I was young. And it still affects me now.

‘It’s awful that people would think I’d be violent towards someone. I would never be abusive because I know what it’s like.’

Yet the profiles of abusers commonly include personal experience of abuse as children.

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Daley said the abuse, which happened while he was living in foster care, has left him with emotional scars and unable to trust women or make new friends.

So, he is unable to trust women, and has anger problems (for which he is apparently receiving counselling) borne of childhood abuse.

The pieces are all there.

CaudleHalbard · 21-08-2013, 09:25 PM

If the law students on here don't think that consent is a defence to common assault (a pretty basic concept), you do wonder about the quality of their legal education. Lol!

pcro · 21-08-2013, 09:25 PM

Would be nonsense. Unless Hazel is pressing for it, which would be her right, the matter should be dropped.

DanaC · 21-08-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

If you've just left Uni and never actually worked as a Lawyer... you're not a Lawyer.

I thought most law students worked in legal practices as interns these days?

CaudleHalbard · 21-08-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

I thought most law students worked in legal practices as interns these days?

Making the tea doesn't make you a lawyer either.

reece(: · 21-08-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

If you've just left Uni and never actually worked as a Lawyer... you're not a Lawyer.

Who cares about the label, they have the knowledge they know MORE THAN YOU. Accept it and move on because it can't be debated.

Northern Monkey · 21-08-2013, 09:30 PM

Well....I thought we'd all be friends after BB finished,Seems not.lol

DanaC · 21-08-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Making the tea doesn't make you a lawyer either.

Yeah...no. That's not what interns are for these days. These days interns do real actual work, for free. So much so that there is some unease in the higher education sector about what amounts to a form of indentured servitude, since getting onto the ladder in any way requires that someone has been an intern and got that experience. They're over a barrel. And (some of) the companies that take them on in that capacity get a lot of work for free.

CaudleHalbard · 21-08-2013, 09:32 PM

Anyway, inter-member slanging matches aside (

), I think we can fairly safely conclude that - despite Daley's tweet - it is unlikely charges will be brought against him.

He would be able to use "consent" as a defence - and there is video evidence to back this up.... which is a rarity!

Verbal · 21-08-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

Who cares about the label, they have the knowledge they know MORE THAN YOU. Accept it and move on because it can't be debated.

I'm not questioning that someone with the ability to complete a Law Degree is far more intellectually superior than I will ever be. How arrogant of you to make such an assumption, by the way.

I'm merely making the point that until you have done actual paid work. You're just someone with a degree.

Its like a Soldier who has just finished basic training thinking they're Rambo. Until they've done a tour of duty, they know feck all.

DanaC · 21-08-2013, 09:35 PM

Bet they know the rules and regulations though. And I bet their knowledge of procedure is bang up to date.

CaudleHalbard · 21-08-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Bet they know the rules and regulations though. And I bet their knowledge of procedure is bang up to date.

That's where the term 'barrack room lawyer' came from.

An army rookie who knows all the rules and regulations, but bugger all about the real world application of them!

DanaC · 21-08-2013, 09:40 PM

Aye, I'm familiar with the term

Since we're flinging around our credentials, I'm a military historian *grins*

sassysocks · 21-08-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I'm not questioning that someone with the ability to complete a Law Degree is far more intellectually superior than I will ever be. How arrogant of you to make such an assumption, by the way.

I'm merely making the point that until you have done actual paid work. You're just someone with a degree.

Its like a Soldier who has just finished basic training thinking they're Rambo. Until they've done a tour of duty, they know feck all.

I have to disagree with the first paragraph as having a degree, of any kind, does not necessarily prove someone is intellectually superior.

Many people who don't have a degree are capable to gaining one - but haven't for whatever reason - money and circumstance being a major factor.

In particular, those lucky enough to have benefited from a private education have very much been given a helping hand - doesn't make them more intelligent.

DanaC · 21-08-2013, 09:41 PM

True dat.

reece(: · 21-08-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

I'm not questioning that someone with the ability to complete a Law Degree is far more intellectually superior than I will ever be. How arrogant of you to make such an assumption, by the way.

I'm merely making the point that until you have done actual paid work. You're just someone with a degree.

Its like a Soldier who has just finished basic training thinking they're Rambo. Until they've done a tour of duty, they know feck all.

No you WERE stating that people with a degree haven't a clue so shouldn't start acting like staples of knowledge. And calling me names on here says more about you than me