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Old 03-01-2014, 06:13 PM #1
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The anonymous nature of moderation protects those handing out unfair infractions too, I doubt very much all moderarors agree on them 100% of the time.
Removing appeals and queries was another shift towards a very undemocratic forum, just my opinion you understand.
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The anonymous nature of moderation protects those handing out unfair infractions too, I doubt very much all moderarors agree on them 100% of the time.
Removing appeals and queries was another shift towards a very undemocratic forum, just my opinion you understand.
Except that that the anonymity doesn't protect us as we pretty much moderate each other.

The Appeals thing is ridiculous as you were one of the people that misused it. This isn't the UN, love. Rules are rules and if you don't follow them then you will be infracted, opening it up for debate just leads to people trying their luck every time they're rightfully infracted which is a waste of our time. The Appeals section was a privilege that the majority of the forum members couldn't be trusted with.

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Except that that the anonymity doesn't protect us as we pretty much moderate each other.

The Appeals thing is ridiculous as you were one of the people that misused it. This isn't the UN, love. Rules are rules and if you don't follow them then you will be infracted, opening it up for debate just leads to people trying their luck every time they're rightfully infracted which is a waste of our time. The Appeals section was a privilege that the majority of the forum members couldn't be trusted with.
No need to start finger pointing babs, rules are rules yes and moderators do get reprimanded too sometimes I guess?
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To be fair people were abusing and misusing the appeals forum more than anything. It deserved to go because people used it incorrectly far too often.
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I think a lot of people on here think of the whole moderator thing as way more serious than it actually is
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And to be fair to the people who just used it for an appeal or a query it didn't deserve to be removed as far as I see.
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And to be fair to the people who just used it for an appeal or a query it didn't deserve to be removed as far as I see.
The ratio was about 85% misuse to 15% using it correctly.
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The ratio was about 85% misuse to 15% using it correctly.
I don't believe that, I thought it was great it brought whatever the issue was to the attention of all the moderators as opposed to one or two.
It was surprising how some things were seen very differently depending on who answered your query
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I actually think the mods are great here, generally they are impartial and they do their job well. I think inactive ones should be taken down but that's not in a nasty way, just to keep the mods as active as possible.

Ammi should be a mod though, that's my only complaint! :P
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I personally wouldn't like to see elected mods,I would guess it is likely that decisions by mods are looked at in some way.

I think the system works fine as it is with admin making the decisions,there have only I think been 2 new mods installed since I joined and they were 2 really excellent choices in my view.Sadly we lost one of them far too soon.

So for me, things as they are now as to selection and ongoing matters is the best way I'd say.

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I think the alerting system needs to be reviewed
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but the majority of mods aren't that bad
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You get reviewed in every job, I don't see why moderators should not be reviewed from time to time. But then, they are an unelected, unqualified body who discipline the rest of the forum for misdemeanours as they see fit, not always in keeping with "the rules" and with no attention to precedent. Meanwhile the right of appeal has recently been removed. Let's just say if TiBB was a country, I wouldn't be expecting an election any time soon.

Having said that... I'm mostly happy with the Mods we have.
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You get reviewed in every job, I don't see why moderators should not be reviewed from time to time. But then, they are an unelected, unqualified body who discipline the rest of the forum for misdemeanours as they see fit, not always in keeping with "the rules" and with no attention to precedent. Meanwhile the right of appeal has recently been removed. Let's just say if TiBB was a country, I wouldn't be expecting an election any time soon.

Having said that... I'm mostly happy with the Mods we have.
"Rules" would appear to be made up on the spur of the moment "depending on my mood" kind of ad hoc basis.
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You get reviewed in every job, I don't see why moderators should not be reviewed from time to time. But then, they are an unelected, unqualified body who discipline the rest of the forum for misdemeanours as they see fit, not always in keeping with "the rules" and with no attention to precedent. Meanwhile the right of appeal has recently been removed. Let's just say if TiBB was a country, I wouldn't be expecting an election any time soon.

Having said that... I'm mostly happy with the Mods we have.
your post is very refreshing!
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Aren't most mods inactive ?
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Most of the mods are pretty helpful and nice tbh,but some seem to let their mod status go to their head and can be quite obnoxious and rude sometimes.
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As for the OP, I wouldnt have a problem with reviews. Though honestly, I doubt it would change very much.

I agree that sometimes mods break rules, and I have probably done it myself a few time too. But the amount of members around who have broken less rules than a mod, and could/would want do the job are few and far between.

I know it seems like a good thing, but its really so ****ing thankless and draining at times :S
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As for the OP, I wouldnt have a problem with reviews. Though honestly, I doubt it would change very much.

I agree that sometimes mods break rules, and I have probably done it myself a few time too. But the amount of members around who have broken less rules than a mod, and could/would want do the job are few and far between.

I know it seems like a good thing, but its really so ****ing thankless and draining at times :S
Why do you do it then, Vicky? Serious question... I would never consider being a mod and it amazes me why anyone would.
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Why do you do it then, Vicky? Serious question... I would never consider being a mod and it amazes me why anyone would.
I honestly dont know

I was only a member for a few weeks before I was made a mod so I dont really know what its like to not be one

Also, I may be the nosy one ben referred to earlier, a few times I have thought of stepping down, then a mix of members/mods asking me not to, and the thought of not being able to see deleted arguements and stuff made me change my mind
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I honestly dont know

I was only a member for a few weeks before I was made a mod so I dont really know what its like to not be one

Also, I may be the nosy one ben referred to earlier, a few times I have thought of stepping down, then a mix of members/mods asking me not to, and the thought of not being able to see deleted arguements and stuff made me change my mind
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