[Kizzy]

I feel this is veering off in a direction that wasn't zees intention, we all have an opinion on moderation but that was not the question posed was it?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think the point is that members should be well behaved all the time, not just if they know they're close to a ban - that shows they haven't learned a lesson, they're just faking it until their infractions come off their record.

Tbh I'd sooner have 4/5 weeks of someone pretending to behave than having them acting dickish all the time, being banned for a few days then coming back and carrying on acting the same

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zee

At the end of the day I just created this thread because I thought it was an interesting topic of conversation raised in another thread which was locked so people didn't get the chance to discuss it.

I think it is interesting to get different points of view on it, don't have a problem discussing it at all.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Tbh I'd sooner have 4/5 weeks of someone pretending to behave than having them acting dickish all the time, being banned for a few days then coming back and carrying on acting the same

I'd rather people like that were just banned full stop.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Tbh I'd sooner have 4/5 weeks of someone pretending to behave than having them acting dickish all the time, being banned for a few days then coming back and carrying on acting the same

My point exactly.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think it is interesting to get different points of view on it, don't have a problem discussing it at all.

Yeah I didn't really anticipate arista accusing me of wanting some kind of forum game I just wondered what people thought

[Roy Mars III]

yes, of course

[Kizzy]

The anonymous nature of moderation protects those handing out unfair infractions too, I doubt very much all moderarors agree on them 100% of the time.
Removing appeals and queries was another shift towards a very undemocratic forum, just my opinion you understand.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Zee

I'd rather people like that were just banned full stop.

Well I don't see that happening any time soon

[Benjamin]

To be fair people were abusing and misusing the appeals forum more than anything. It deserved to go because people used it incorrectly far too often.

[Marc]

I think a lot of people on here think of the whole moderator thing as way more serious than it actually is

[Kizzy]

And to be fair to the people who just used it for an appeal or a query it didn't deserve to be removed as far as I see.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And to be fair to the people who just used it for an appeal or a query it didn't deserve to be removed as far as I see.

The ratio was about 85% misuse to 15% using it correctly.

[Amy Jade]

I actually think the mods are great here, generally they are impartial and they do their job well. I think inactive ones should be taken down but that's not in a nasty way, just to keep the mods as active as possible.

Ammi should be a mod though, that's my only complaint! :P

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

The ratio was about 85% misuse to 15% using it correctly.

I don't believe that, I thought it was great it brought whatever the issue was to the attention of all the moderators as opposed to one or two.
It was surprising how some things were seen very differently depending on who answered your query

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The anonymous nature of moderation protects those handing out unfair infractions too, I doubt very much all moderarors agree on them 100% of the time.
Removing appeals and queries was another shift towards a very undemocratic forum, just my opinion you understand.

Except that that the anonymity doesn't protect us as we pretty much moderate each other.

The Appeals thing is ridiculous as you were one of the people that misused it. This isn't the UN, love. Rules are rules and if you don't follow them then you will be infracted, opening it up for debate just leads to people trying their luck every time they're rightfully infracted which is a waste of our time. The Appeals section was a privilege that the majority of the forum members couldn't be trusted with.

[joeysteele]

I personally wouldn't like to see elected mods,I would guess it is likely that decisions by mods are looked at in some way.

I think the system works fine as it is with admin making the decisions,there have only I think been 2 new mods installed since I joined and they were 2 really excellent choices in my view.Sadly we lost one of them far too soon.

So for me, things as they are now as to selection and ongoing matters is the best way I'd say.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except that that the anonymity doesn't protect us as we pretty much moderate each other.

The Appeals thing is ridiculous as you were one of the people that misused it. This isn't the UN, love. Rules are rules and if you don't follow them then you will be infracted, opening it up for debate just leads to people trying their luck every time they're rightfully infracted which is a waste of our time. The Appeals section was a privilege that the majority of the forum members couldn't be trusted with.

No need to start finger pointing babs, rules are rules yes and moderators do get reprimanded too sometimes I guess?

[Pete.]

I think the alerting system needs to be reviewed

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by Smithy

A few mods definitely take advantage of their position, there's been numerous times they've made a comment that if any other member had made they'd have been I reacted for

this tbf

[Apple202]

but the majority of mods aren't that bad

[Livia]

You get reviewed in every job, I don't see why moderators should not be reviewed from time to time. But then, they are an unelected, unqualified body who discipline the rest of the forum for misdemeanours as they see fit, not always in keeping with "the rules" and with no attention to precedent. Meanwhile the right of appeal has recently been removed. Let's just say if TiBB was a country, I wouldn't be expecting an election any time soon.

Having said that... I'm mostly happy with the Mods we have.

[Pete.]

Aren't most mods inactive ?

[Kazanne]

Most of the mods are pretty helpful and nice tbh,but some seem to let their mod status go to their head and can be quite obnoxious and rude sometimes.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Livia

You get reviewed in every job, I don't see why moderators should not be reviewed from time to time. But then, they are an unelected, unqualified body who discipline the rest of the forum for misdemeanours as they see fit, not always in keeping with "the rules" and with no attention to precedent. Meanwhile the right of appeal has recently been removed. Let's just say if TiBB was a country, I wouldn't be expecting an election any time soon.

Having said that... I'm mostly happy with the Mods we have.

"Rules" would appear to be made up on the spur of the moment "depending on my mood" kind of ad hoc basis.