[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

We haven't "convinced ourselves the producers don't do this sort of thing" you have failed to prove your point.

The producers want Ashleigh out because? For what purpose? What difference does it make to them?

Also, Ashleigh has a strong chance to win? Very doubtful and again pure presumption with no basis in fact.

They want Ashleigh out because they don't want her to win. There is a danger she could win because of her popularity.

[Creggle]

Speculating that Mark or Winston could win is also pure presumption with no basis in fact, saying anybody has a chance of winning is.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

Speculating that Mark or Winston could win is also pure presumption with no basis in fact, saying anybody has a chance of winning is.

Saying Mark has more of a chance of winning than Steven is an obvious truth. It's supported by his support as can be seen in online polls.

Ashleigh however is polling almost double Mark's figures in every one of those polls. And Chris is second to her.

I'd make Chris the favourite to win right now just because Ashleigh is walking through a minefield.

[Josy]

If Ashleigh goes for saying she wants to go then she is to blame

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

If Ashleigh goes for saying she wants to go then she is to blame

Nope. By putting people in the position they are in, knowing there was a HM who was saying she wanted to leave, they set it up for her to be very likely the next one out.

The lack of live coverage and now the suspension of the viewers being involved in the eviction process is for one obvious reason... Further manipulation.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Nope. By putting people in the position they are in, knowing there was a HM who was saying she wanted to leave, they set it up for her to be very likely the next one out.

The lack of live coverage and now the suspension of the viewers being involved in the eviction process is for one obvious reason... Further manipulation.

Yeah I disagree with that like I have posted many many times in this thread with my reasons and point as to why and you failing to have any valid reason for the assumptions means it's pointless having a debate about it.

Great discussion but I'm done.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah I disagree with that like I have posted many many times in this thread with my reasons and point as to why and you failing to have any valid reason for the assumptions means it's pointless having a debate about it.

Great discussion but I'm done.

Up to you. But I'd love to know why you think they've suddenly decided to get rid of (or at least suspend) the public having a say in evictions. Do you think it's just a coincidence that it followed the Save Ashleigh/Evict Jale campaign? Do you think it's just a coincidence that after a petition with over a thousand signatures in the space of 48 hours telling them not to take the viewers vote away from the eviction process, they've now done it twice in the space of a week?

And again... I have no idea why people would deny that Marlon was penciled in for eviction. It's perfectly obvious that he was.

[Marsh.]

[Gusto Brunt]

I'd love it if Ashleigh stayed but it appears the newbies have it in for her, and she'll be going.

It's a shame the newbies don't have balls. If they did they'd evict Steven. But the cowards won't do that because they know the majority of the house want Ashleigh out.

[Yaki da]

So, are the two girls saying Ashleigh is the easiest option now? You'd think it was set up for that to happen.

[Yaki da]

Anyway, just for the record of where she stood in the popularity polls...

TIBB

BB2014: Who is your favourite housemate? [Marlon Evicted]
Ashleigh 34.2%
Chris 17.8%
Mark 8.6%
Christopher 6.9%
Helen 6.3%
Zoe 4.7%
Ash 4.4%
Danielle 4.1%
Winston 4.0%
Biannca 3.7%
Kimberly 3.1%
Pavandeep 1.6%
Steven 0.4%

Total votes: 1183
You have already voted!

BB Spy

Week 6 Part 2: Who's your favourite housemate?

ASHLEIGH
31.0%

CHRIS
14.1%

HELEN
9.9%

MARK
8.9%

ASH
7.8%

ZOE
6.3%

CHRISTOPHER
6.0%

WINSTON
5.7%

BIANNCA
3.9%

DANIELLE
3.6%

KIMBERLY
1.3%

PAVANDEEP
1.1%

STEVEN
0.4%
Total Votes: 1237


Tellymix

Big Brother 2014: Who's your favourite? Week 6

Ashleigh Coyle (28%, 1,381 Votes)
Chris R Wright (23%, 1,128 Votes)
Mark Byron (16%, 781 Votes)
Winston Showan (8%, 416 Votes)
Helen Wood (6%, 289 Votes)
Christopher Hall (5%, 254 Votes)
Ash Harrison (5%, 253 Votes)
Danielle McMahon (3%, 150 Votes)
Kimberly Kisselovich (2%, 103 Votes)
Marlon Wallen (2%, 92 Votes)
Steven Goode (2%, 49 Votes)
Total Voters: 4,896

What a "twist" (fix) this is

[waterhog]

there is more of her to come - she needs to stay.

[Samm]

She won't be evicted, there's bigger targets they are getting out now like Kimberly & Steven

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

She won't be evicted, there's bigger targets they are getting out now like Kimberly & Steven

If the whole house was up for eviction and the public decided who goes, Steven would be out the door. Big Brother decide they don't want a public vote. Why do you think Big Brother would save Steven from the public vote, only to have him be evicted by 3 new housemates. Why?

Ashleigh will go, because the whole point of the "twist" is to get rid of Ashleigh.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

She won't be evicted, there's bigger targets they are getting out now like Kimberly & Steven

They like Steven (Bianca and Zoe), they won't want to hurt him either by evicting Kim.

Do you really not see how this twist was manufactured to lead to a certain result? Ashleigh was the easiest and most obvious person from the moment it was announced. That is why the production team did the twist/fix imo.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

They like Steven (Bianca and Zoe), they won't want to hurt him either by evicting Kim.

Do you really not see how this twist was manufactured to lead to a certain result? Ashleigh was the easiest and most obvious person from the moment it was announced. That is why the production team did the twist/fix imo.

It's not a fix ,people just saying this because if she goes the excuse will be it was a fix,not that she was disliked or wanted to go,I don't think she'll go but if she does it certainly wont be because it's fixed for that to happen.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's not a fix

It's a blatant fix, just as Marlon's eviction was. Your problem is that your dislike of Ashleigh is blinding you from objective truth.

people just saying this because if she goes the excuse will be it was a fix,not that she was disliked or wanted to go

We know she wanted to go. That's the whole point of giving these new HMs the power they have... She was the easiest and most obvious option.

I don't think she'll go but if she does it certainly wont be because it's fixed for that to happen.

They take the public vote out of the eviction process... They give 3 new housemates the power to evict knowing full well there's a girl in there who is saying she wants to go meaning she was always the most obvious and easiest option to pick. That was the point...

How can people be so blind to this?

[wormsinfested]

#eyecandy needs to stay!!!

[Achilles]

Fix is the wrong word. It's a SHOW. The producers have created a SHOW and they have complete control over everything that happens in their SHOW.

It is not BIG BROTHER anymore it's more like a WWF version of Big Brother

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Fix is the wrong word. It's a SHOW.

It's a show that presents itself as a game which money is gambled on and votes are cast for, and there is a prize at the end. What they're doing is dodgy

The producers have created a SHOW and they have complete control over everything that happens in their SHOW.

It is not BIG BROTHER anymore it's more like a WWF version of Big Brother

I agree with this. But they may as well have sent in an executive producer to just say "Sorry Marlon, you're evicted. Okay Ashleigh, you want to go, time to go..."

[David992]

I think if they want to make an easy decision they will pick ashleigh, because they think she wants to go but lets hope they pick steven. ASHLEIGH TO STAY :*

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

They want Ashleigh out because they don't want her to win. There is a danger she could win because of her popularity.

That's not actually answered my question has it?

Why don't they want Ashleigh to win? It'll take some damn good explaining to convince me the producers give two sh*ts who wins. There's nothing in it for them. Even less nowadays.