[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Could have created any twist they wanted to... They could have done the reverse of what they've done... All up vote to save, Steven goes, the others decide which 2 out of the 3 remain. But they did what they did, and they clearly think these things through and work out what the most likely outcomes are going to be.

It's a simple enough point that seems to me to be an obvious truth. They come up with the twists with certain outcomes that they either want or don't mind in their heads. They came up with whoever gets the most nominations gets evicted knowing full well, like the rest of us, that Marlon was probably gone.

And if you don't understand this, then yes, you're naive.

A simple point with an obvious truth...... which you can't even explain. They seemingly are desperate to get her out that they'd give up phone vote profits, simply to annoy you. Because the producers really give a sh*t.

So when someone other than Ashleigh is evicted on Friday will your story change?

You should write novels.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I think the reason Marlon pressed the button was so that Ashleigh would be evicted. It didn't work though because of Ashleigh's fanbase.

New plan to ensure she is evicted. Give the 3 new housemates the power to evict without a public vote. Ashleigh is gone, nothing public can do about it.

Use Marlon as the test subject to soften the blow

Why though?

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

I edited my post above to ask this but then why did they want Marlon to go?

The moment they decided to evict whoever had the most nominations knowing full well it was going to be Marlon. As those of us just watching a HL show knew it would be. And they having 24/7 access knew it would be with even greater confidence.

Yeah that second part I have read you say numerous times but I wont rise to it...I personally find it incredible you are coming up with all these conspiracies against the producers but you cannot answer the most important question which is why?

I don't need to answer why. I can't read their minds. There are twists that they will think through and go with depending on what the likely results are. That is just obvious.

They knew Makosi would get more votes than Vanessa... So rather than have the person with the most votes go and take out the biggest character left in the show, they decided the top two would face a HM vote knowing Vanessa would leave.

That's how the show works when they do things like this. Everything is thought out.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I think the reason Marlon pressed the button was so that Ashleigh would be evicted. It didn't work though because of Ashleigh's fanbase.

New plan to ensure she is evicted. Give the 3 new housemates the power to evict without a public vote. Ashleigh is gone, nothing public can do about it.

Use Marlon as the test subject to soften the blow

So now Marlon was in on it?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

The moment they decided to evict whoever had the most nominations knowing full well it was going to be Marlon.



I don't need to answer why. I can't read their minds. There are twists that they will think through and go with depending on what the likely results are. That is just obvious.

They knew Makosi would get more votes than Vanessa... So rather than have the person with the most votes go and take out the biggest character left in the show, they decided the top two would face a HM vote knowing Vanessa would leave.

That's how the show works when they do things like this. Everything is thought out.

Why would they want Marlon gone? you seem to be posting an awful lot of words but never answering any questions put to you about your theories.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

They knew Makosi would get more votes than Vanessa... So rather than have the person with the most votes go and take out the biggest character left in the show, they decided the top two would face a HM vote knowing Vanessa would leave.

That's how the show works when they do things like this. Everything is thought out.

Except the details of the twist were announced BEFORE the housemates nominated that week of BB6 so the producers did not know who would nominate and who wouldn't.

Remember it was only the people who declined nominations that faced the public vote.

The producers are psychic now?

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Josy

Why though?

If the producers are creating a show, all the different players have their role to play. Kimberly and Steven have their roles, Helen has her role etc. Ashleigh's role was not to be the winner.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A simple point with an obvious truth...... which you can't even explain. They seemingly are desperate to get her out that they'd give up phone vote profits, simply to annoy you. Because the producers really give a sh*t.

What is it you want me to explain? Why Ashleigh? I have no idea. But the fact is every decision they make, they have thought through the most likely consequences of it.

So when someone other than Ashleigh is evicted on Friday will your story change?

No, because I've already said that they set it up so it could only be one of a couple. The most likely of which was Ashleigh.

The post that seems to have bugged a lot of you is just me pointing out the ridiculousness of the person topping every popularity poll being evicted by other HMs because they decided to go with this twist, knowing full well what the most likely result would be.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Bianca said she dislikes Danielle & Ashleigh the most this morning [It's on the youtube channel & c5 website /:]

oh -sobs-

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Achilles

If the producers are creating a show, all the different players have their role to play. Kimberly and Steven have their roles, Helen has her role etc. Ashleigh's role was not to be the winner.

So the housemates are all playing out roles?

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Bianca said she dislikes Danielle & Ashleigh the most this morning [It's on the youtube channel & c5 website /:]

She said she did not like Danielle and that Ashleigh seems to be unhappy in the house, doesn't mean she does not like her.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except the details of the twist were announced BEFORE the housemates nominated that week of BB6 so the producers did not know who would nominate and who wouldn't.

That's wrong actually. They changed that twist at the very last moment before lines opened on BBLB so the top 2 would then face a housemate vote. They even waited to see who did nominate and who did not before deciding which ones would be up for eviction. That whole twist was designed to get boring Vanessa out and they kept making it up as they went along to make sure it was her.

Remember it was only the people who declined nominations that faced the public vote.

They didn't reveal that until after they saw who nominated and who didn't. I remember this very well.

The producers are psychic now?

See above. But keep on defending them. Your naivity is sweet

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What is it you want me to explain? Why Ashleigh? I have no idea. But the fact is every decision they make, they have thought through the most likely consequences of it.

No, because I've already said that they set it up so it could only be one of a couple. The most likely of which was Ashleigh.

The post that seems to have bugged a lot of you is just me pointing out the ridiculousness of the person topping every popularity poll being evicted by other HMs because they decided to go with this twist, knowing full well what the most likely result would be.

No it isn't because a) I don't keep up with polls and b) we have no idea who will be evicted.

The part of your posts which baffle me (I'm not bugged at all) is the fact that the producers think through these twists so much so that they are sure who is probably going to be evicted...... for no reason anyone can fathom.

The reason is the most important element.

It's like accusing someone of murder and saying they did it because they had the opportunity. But without motive it's meaningless.

Producers don't do things for the hell of it, there has to be a reason.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

See above. But keep on defending them. Your naivity is sweet

Defending who? I'm not defending anyone, I'm calling bullsh*t when I see it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What is it you want me to explain? Why Ashleigh? I have no idea.

/thread

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The part of your posts which baffle me (I'm not bugged at all) is the fact that the producers think through these twists so much so that they are sure who is probably going to be evicted...... for no reason anyone can fathom.

They certainly knew Marlon was going to be evicted. And we all know Ashleigh is in serious trouble this week because of and only because of this twist. If we know that, then the producers know that.

The reason is the most important element.

Because they have their show planned in their minds and know who they want to stick around and who they're happy to see go. It's not rocket science. They wanted Vanessa out over Makosi because Vanessa was dull and Makosi was the last of the bigger characters left.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Josy

So the housemates are all playing out roles?

If you were creating a show with a showmance being one of the main storylines of the show, would you create a vanilla love story? Or, would you create a wacky and weird showmance with bonking, ex bf's and ex gf's, weird mothers, fingering, catchphrases and talking point after talking point after talking point?

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Defending who? I'm not defending anyone, I'm calling bullsh*t when I see it.

You're not making a very good case defending them. do you honestly think they don't have what the consequences of the decisions they make are going to be in mind when they make them?

[Josy]

That's another point, I know for a fact there is manipulation goes on with the show, the way we are presented the highlights for example those clips are manipulated to make us think something else rather than what is actually happening a lot of the time but to say the producers are manipulating the entire show, coming up with big twists and so on to suit a preplanned agenda and affect one housemates without an actual reason for them doing it is just ridiculous.

It doesn't matter at all to the producers who wins this show.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's another point, I know for a fact there is manipulation goes on with the show, the way we are presented the highlights for example those clips are manipulated to make us think something else rather than what is actually happening a lot of the time but to say the producers are manipulating the entire show, coming up with big twists and so on to suit a preplanned agenda and affect one housemates without an actual reason for them doing it is just ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is that you can't see it when it's staring you in the face.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Because they have their show planned in their minds and know who they want to stick around and who they're happy to see go. It's not rocket science. They wanted Vanessa out over Makosi because Vanessa was dull and Makosi was the last of the bigger characters left.

So instead of going with the actual nomination results they opted for a twist which would've seen Makosi evicted? Ok then.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What's ridiculous is that you can't see it when it's staring you in the face.

What's ridiculous is you have all these ideas but no glue to hold them together.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So instead of going with the actual nomination results they opted for a twist which would've seen Makosi evicted? Ok then.

Jesus Christ.

They didn't want Kemal, Craig or Anthony out that week. They wanted Vanessa

They saw that Craig, Anthony and Kemal nominated and told them that they were up when in reality it was the others Derek, Makosi, Vanessa, Ola and Science and Eugene. They then decided at the last moment to twist it again because they knew Makosi would get the most votes to go, so they made it so that th 2 with the most votes would face a housemate vote, knowing Makosi would be saved.

Every step of the way with that twist they waited to see what happened, who did what and then changed the details at the last moment to suit their agenda, which was to get Vanessa out.

They did something similar in BB8 with the half way house where they just kept putting people in and then out to make sure they didn't lose any major characters in that eviction. And they didn't. it was David and Shanessa who went.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Listen, I wanted marlon to stay, but BB can do whatever they want

And when you have a person saying they want to go, then all the people who would have liked to have gone in, and maybe even auditioned are rightly peeved

I dont want these new idiots to be able to evict anyone but please stop saying Ashleigh is a winner

She has never had a chance in HELL!

Ashleigh is a WINNER in our eyes and we can say it as much as we want...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What's ridiculous is that you can't see it when it's staring you in the face.

Just think for a minute then..

If what you say is true and they are trying to get Ashleigh evicted why not evict her last night?

She was standing up along with Ash and Marlon, they weren't showing the noms on screen to the hm's or us then why not go one step further and say Ashleigh had received the most nomination from the housemates?

I am trying to understand your reasoning for thinking they want Ashleigh out of the house tbh but you aren't giving any reason for it at all just the claim that the producers want that.